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Jordan Kurecki

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About Jordan Kurecki

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  1. Jordan Kurecki

    Let God be True and Every Man a Liar

    “It seems odd, that certain men who talk so much of what the Holy Spirit reveals to themselves, should think so little of what he has revealed to others. My chat this afternoon is not for these great originals, but for you who are content to learn of holy men, taught of God, and mighty in the Scriptures. It has been the fashion of late years to speak against the use of commentaries. If there were any fear that the expositions of Matthew Henry, Gill, Scott, and others, would be exalted into Christian Targums, we would join the chorus of objectors, but the existence or approach of such a danger we do not suspect. The temptations of our times lie rather in empty pretensions to novelty of sentiment, than in a slavish following of accepted guides. A respectable acquaintance with the opinions of the giants of the past, might have saved many an erratic thinker from wild interpretations and outrageous inferences. Usually, we have found the despisers of commentaries to be men who have no sort of acquaintance with them; in their case, it is the opposite of familiarity which has bred contempt” (Spurgeon, Two Lectures Addressed to the Students of the Pastor’s College, Metropolitan Tabernacle, http://www.book-academy.co.uk/lectures/index.html).
  2. Jordan Kurecki

    The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants

    Bible Baptist
  3. While there are clearly some differences that change meaning, shew and show are the same exact word, just different spellings, Shew is British spelling and show is American, also needs and needeth are the same thing. The morpheme -eth is archaic and has been replaced in today’s English with the morpheme -s. there is also no difference in meaning betwixt the word between and betwixt. Same for “wit” and “know” they both mean the same thing as well. Same for “nigh” and “near” both mean the same thing. I lament the fact how people do not understand the English language the way they think they do. There are plenty of real changes to point out that exist between the KJV and other versions. But modern equivalent of archaic words are not changes in meaning, nor are spelling changes either..On that note, have you ever seen a 1611 KJV? Son was spelled Sonne. Does the version you use have Son or Sonne? I am a through and through KJV bible believer and defender, but can we please stop making issues out of non issues?
  4. Jordan Kurecki

    The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants

    Well the young lady I am courting is from Alaska, Fairbanks to be specific, and both she and her mother ALWAYS wear skirts.Last time I was there it was negative 30 degrees..so how exactly they pull it off, I’m not sure, but they do.
  5. Jordan Kurecki

    The Morality Behind Christian Women Wearing Pants

    Not that I am super hardcore against pants, but that is not really a legitimate excuse for women to wear pants, just because you named occupations that require pants or something similiar, does not mean it is ok for women to wear them. if pants truly are immodest on a woman, then women should not be doing things that require them to wear them. To give you an example in the spirit of reductio absurdum, that would be like saying that since a woman can’t be a bikini model without wearing a bikini, then it must be ok for her to wear a bikini. I believe what you are doing is a form of circular reasoning.
  6. Jordan Kurecki

    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    From another forum "I think the significant factor here is what tongues is being grouped with in verse 8. For example, "prophesy" is found repeatedly in chapter 14 as a revelatory gift. Tongues is a revelatory gift. Hence, the direct association with these two revelatory gifts with "knowledge" would indicate it also is to be interpreted within the same category. There was virtually no written revelation for church policy, new covenant administration or teaching at the writing of first corinthians. The second obvious contextual factor is that love is being contrasted to these revelatory gifts with regard to longevity (v. 8a). Verse 8 indicates with regard to longevity, tongues ceases prior to the other two revelatory gifts. Verses 9-10 take up the point of longevity with regard to prophecy and knowledge which has the temporal value of being PARTIAL with regard to revelation. Their longevity is terminated by the coming of "that" which is perfect. The proper understanding of "perfect" must be defined by immediate context. For example, these revelatory gifts are "IN PART" while "that" is not "in part" but is "perfect." Second, the immediate metaphor (v. 10) has to do with MATURITY rather than the second coming or a new world. Hence, there is a time for immature things and a time they must be put away which comes with maturity. Third, the second metaphor has to do with a contrast between means of revelation. There is no question that a mirror is an indirect means of revelation whereas "face to face" is a direct means of revelation. This language was used to describe the revelation provided to Moses that differed from that which was given to common prophets. Common prophets were provide revelation through indirect means (dreams, visions, etc.) where God spoke "face to face" with Moses by direct revelation. Also there time terms of "now" versus "then" in context may refer to the apostolic period as the time of indirect revelatory gifts consummated by the completion of a more individual direct revelation - the completed inspired Word of God. During this "in part" period of time the average Christian had to depend upon revelation from God through indirect means, those among them with these gifts, whereas, "WHEN that which is perfect is come" no individual would have to depend on any other individual for revelation from God but would have it directly from God in written form for him/herself (2 Tim. 3:16-17). The words "to know even as I am known" conveys the idea of direct revelation in contrast to indirect means. This has to be interpreted in context with the metaphors of maturity and mirror and is just another way to say the same thing in a different way. Moreover, "now" in the apostolic period where there is no completed or mature direct personal revelation from God in written form, and they are dependent upon others, immature, in part revelatory gifts, yet "now" they have guiding principles (love, faith, hope) but primarily the "better way" of love to guide them in the proper use of these spiritual gifts." This was an interesting take on it.
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    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    https://marprelate.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/cessationism-have-the-sign-gifts-ceased/ Here is another interesting article that I found.
  8. Jordan Kurecki

    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    If you would allow me to play "devils advocate" for a moment, Doesn't your position assume though that tongues have surpassed their usefulness? Maybe I have perhaps a different mindset on this because of my interest and heart in missions and specifically unreached people groups, but can we really say that the gift of tongues would be completely out of the question and not be useful if one were to go into a tribe somewhere they have had no contact with the Gospel. (Yes many of these still exist today) With all due respect Pastor Markle, doesn't you position presuppose that the usefulness of tongues has passed? Upon what do you base this presupposition? I am not sure if you are familiar with Otto Koning, but here is what he claimed happened when he was in Papua New Guinea, I think it might possibly give you a different perspective on it, and I would really look forward to a response to this message/story. This is what that got me rethinking and evaluating 1 Corinthians 13:8-13. This audio is pretty easy to listen to, I don't you will find it a burden to listen to, I'm not exactly sure what to think about the story he tells, but it does give something to think about. http://ia800601.us.archive.org/25/items/SERMONINDEX_SID28389/SID28389.mp3 the last 2 minutes are pretty interesting.
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    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    I am following you so far..
  10. Jordan Kurecki

    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away. Gill on vs 10 "When perfect knowledge of God, of Christ, and of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven shall take place; which will not in this life, but in that which is to come. So the Jews say (r) that at the resurrection, upon the reunion of the soul and body, "the children of men shall attain to דעה שלימה, "perfect knowledge";'' which is what the apostle refers to here:" Barnes on vs 10 "It means that when anything which is perfect is seen or enjoyed, then that which is imperfect is forgotten, laid aside, or vanishes. Thus, in the full and perfect light of day, the imperfect and feeble light of the stars vanishes. The sense here is, that “in heaven” - a state of absolute perfection - that which is “in part,” or which is imperfect, shall be lost in superior brightness. All imperfection will vanish. And all that we here possess that is obscure shall be lost in the superior and perfect glory of that eternal world. All our present unsatisfactory modes of obtaining knowledge shall be unknown. All shall be clear, bright, and eternal." Clarke on vs 10 "The state of eternal blessedness; then that which is in part - that which is imperfect, shall be done away; the imperfect as well as the probationary state shall cease for ever." Matthew Henry on vs 12 "God is to be seen face to face; and we are to know him as we are known by him; not indeed as perfectly, but in some sense in the same manner. We are known to him by mere inspection; he turns his eye towards us, and sees and searches us throughout. We shall then fix our eye on him, and see him as he is, 1Jn 3:2. We shall know how we are known, enter into all the mysteries of divine love and grace. O glorious change! To pass from darkness to light, from clouds to the clear sunshine of our Saviour's face, and in God's own light to see light! Psa 36:9. Note, It is the light of heaven only that will remove all clouds and darkness from the face of God. It is at best but twilight while we are in this world; there it will be perfect and eternal day." Benson on vs 10: "But when that which is perfect is come — As in the heavenly state it shall; then that which is only in part shall be done away — Both that poor, low, imperfect, glimmering light, which is all the knowledge we now can attain to, and these slow and unsatisfactory methods of attaining it, as well as of imparting it to others." Wesley on vs 10: "But when that which is perfect is come - At death and in the last day. That which is in part shall vanish away - Both that poor, low, imperfect, glimmering light, which is all the knowledge we now can attain to; and these slow and unsatisfactory methods of attaining, as well as of imparting it to others." Matthew Poole on vs 10: "But when we come to heaven, we shall be in such a state, as nothing shall or can be added to us; then our partial and imperfect knowledge shall be swallowed up in a knowledge perfect and complete." I am beginning to think that Baptists have misinterpreted this passage as a knee jerk reaction to Pentecostal Charismatic madness...I do not see any contextual evidence for why "that which is perfect" is the word of God, in fact vs 12 seems at odds with this idea. and seems much more to favor the idea that the commentators state. It seems that all the commentators prior to the popularization of the charismatic movement have interpreted this passage to be about being in heaven, or the eternal state, as opposed to the completion the canon of scripture. Now even if this is the correct interpretation it still does not give credence to all of the phony and false spiritual gifts exhibited in the charismatic movement. Consider also : "Christ's Coming or Eschatological View. Taking "that which is complete" as occurring in the period when Christ returns has been by far the majority view of this passage throughout church history, and there are good reasons why this is the case, in addition to the obvious weaknesses of the canon and maturity views. Teleios is best understood as "perfection" (rather than "maturity") in light of Matthew 5:48, "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." This could have been easily understood by the Corinthian readers. The neuter form of teleios allows for understanding it as the state of perfection..... "Face to face" is an Old Testament formula for a theophany which will occur following Christ's return, so that point seems to be the period of, or after Christ's return. Being fully known will only be true after Messiah comes. Isaiah foresaw this time of Messiah's reign and the gathering of the nations (what we refer to as "the rapture") when, "the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea." (Isaiah 11:9)" http://www.jesuswalk.com/1corinthians/12_excursus-meaning-of-perfect-1cor13_10.htm
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    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    I’ve done quite a bit of looking at the passage on my own. I lean heavily towards the position that the “that which is perfect” is the completed canon of scripture. However I am not 100% convinced of this position based on vs 12, particularly the second part of that verse. Correct me if I am wrong, but revelation was completed in AD 90, years after Paul’s martyrdom? 1 Corinthians 13:12 KJV [12] For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. It doesn’t really make sense to me that Paul says that “THEN” he shall know AS HE IS KNOWN. If this passage is talking about the completed canon why does Paul say then he would be known, wouldn’t he be in heaven already where the completed canon on earth is somewhat irrelevant? I would also note that I cannot find a single commentator that is not modern, who says the “that which is perfect” is the word of God. Gill, Barnes, Clarke, Wesley, and Matthew Henry all say it refers to something else, many of them say it refers to the eternal state where knowledge is complete. This seems to fit more with vs 12.
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    Does 1 Corinthians 13:8-12 teach the sign gifts have ceased?

    Pastor Markle where you at? I am teaching on this passage in Sunday School and was hoping to have your comments on the cessation of the gifts by now!
  13. So I am somewhat of a Bible collector and fanatic, I love all the different cover materials and leathers, all the different formats such as font sizes, wide margin, study materials, etc and I have amassed a wealth of knowledge relating to Bibles from all different publishers and styles. So let's talk about Bibles! I have had many study bibles over the years and I wanted to discuss some of them, what is your favorite? what do you like to use and why? Right now I am using a thumb indexed Holman wide margin minister's Bible that I had rebound in a saddle tan goatskin (I had all of the "minister helps" removed :) , it has 11 point font and it is really an awesome size because the paper is really thin. I would post pictures if anyone is interested in seeing it. I love writing and taking notes in my bibles! I have been looking at using one of Nelson's King James Study Bible, which use to be called the Liberty Annotated study bible, they just published a full color edition in really nice cowhide, I skimmed and looked at one of the older editions and I was actually impressed with the study notes that it had and actually found them helpful. From what I can tell the notes are from a pre trib, dispensational, conservative, fundamentalist perspective. One other bible I use to own was a KJV Key Word Study Bible, it had a lot of the words in the text coded to strong's numbering system, and the back of it contained an expanded Hebrew and Greek dictionary that matched Strongs Numbering system, the NT also had a lot of coding in the text indicating Greek grammatical structures. The bible also has some comments in it from a dispensational viewpoint, but some of the notes are critical of the KJV translation. I would however recommend this bible to people for serious study. I owned a Thompson Chain, and I have mixed feelings about it, I like how much it helps with topical study, but I found myself constantly wanting to stray away from whatever passage I was reading at the time and I felt like it was almost distracting to me. I also would recommend the Thompson to people for serious study. I have never been all that impressed with the Scofield bible, I just never was impressed with the study notes, I did remember liking that it has some markings for the year on the top of each page in the margins. Of course the Scofield bible teaches the Gap theory and other things. Plus I hate the font style of the Scofield bible, way to bold and awkward an old fashioned looking for my tastes. Personally I would not recommend the Scofield bible because I think there are better bibles out there. I use to own a Rock of Ages Bible published by the Rock of Ages prison ministry, but again I was not very impressed with the study notes, so I probably would not recommend it for the same reason as the Scofield. I use to own a Defined King James Bible as well, this bible has all of the uncommon, archaic, and rare english words defined in footnotes at the bottom of the text, I did not use this bible much when I had it, even though in my early years I really probably should have. This is a great bible if you have problems understanding a lot of the words in the KJV, I don't use it because I tend to do more looking at Hebrew and Greek lexicons and stuff like that, but this is a great bible for your average church member and is a GREAT gift for new believers, and for younger folks also. I have also had a Ryrie Study bible, but I was seriously not impressed with the study notes, they were accurate and made sense, but they just felt so basic that for me they seemed useless in a sense. so I would not recommend the Ryrie study bible. I have not owned the following bibles, but have looked into them the Common Man's reference bible, I highly do not recommend this bible, this bible uses some really fault and bad logic to defend the KJV, and the notes have a horrible spirit about them coming across as very critical, I think it is very likely that this bible was put together by a Ruckmanite. KJV Holman Study Bible, Holman is a Southern Baptist publishing house, this bible is decent from what I have seen of it, but I don't think they take a very strong position on certain doctrines, they prefer to lay out the different thoughts and ideas about controversial topics. The notes probably are decent and evangelical. KJV Henry Morris Study bible, This bible has tons of creationist notes in it, I have not looked into this bible a lot, but it would probably be good for someone who is wanting to build their confidence and trust in the bible or if you are interested in apologetics. Matthew Henry Study Bible, Matthew Henry was a Presbyterian minister famous for his commentary on the bible, someone took a bunch of quotes from him and added them to to the bible to create this study bible, Matthew Henry's commentaries are superb and have a distinct devotional feel to them, he really had a way of drawing out spiritual principles from the bible and he was very spiritually minded. I use to not like him because he was Presbyterian but I have grown to love him the more I consult his commentaries. A.W. Tozer Study bible, Tozer was a minister with the Christian and Missionary Alliance, and like Matthew Henry someone took a bunch of quotes by him and put them into a bible, he was also very devotional in his writings. I don't remember much of the content of this study bible but I owned it for a short time. So.. what study bibles have you had/owned? What Bible do you use and why? (Not talking about translation) What do you recommend and why? Let's talk about Bibles 🙂 Also if you have any questions about a particular bible with particular features ask me, if one exists I will know about it and I love passing my knowledge on to others 🙂
  14. Jordan Kurecki

    Uganda Internship +other updates

    https://mailchi.mp/164691319638/gn13jgc5jt-329723
  15. Jordan Kurecki

    Missionary School

    Well, I graduate from BBTI one week from tomorrow :)
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