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The only way I see that would work is for the spy to go in, gain information, relay it to others, and never revel himself.

But them a thought just hit my mind, that would be deceiving people, I don't believe that would stand up to the Golden Rule, for we would not want anyone to do that to us, and we are to do to others as we wish them to do unto us.

That Golden Rule will get into the way of many of our fleshly ideas.

So I started this post defending, and I now find myself on the other side. The worse thing about being wrong is to never admit your wrong when you find your in the wrong. I was wrong for defending sending in spies. If we want to find out something about another denomination we ought to do so in and upfront manner.

The thing is, if they found out before they accepted Jesus as Savior, that just might harden their heart so hard that they would never accept God's truths. And even if they found out afterwards it still might have an ill effect on them.


Very good points Jerry, I completely agree!
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The only way I see that would work is for the spy to go in, gain information, relay it to others, and never revel himself.

But them a thought just hit my mind, that would be deceiving people, I don't believe that would stand up to the Golden Rule, for we would not want anyone to do that to us, and we are to do to others as we wish them to do unto us.

That Golden Rule will get into the way of many of our fleshly ideas.

So I started this post defending, and I now find myself on the other side. The worse thing about being wrong is to never admit your wrong when you find your in the wrong. I was wrong for defending sending in spies. If we want to find out something about another denomination we ought to do so in and upfront manner.

The thing is, if they found out before they accepted Jesus as Savior, that just might harden their heart so hard that they would never accept God's truths. And even if they found out afterwards it still might have an ill effect on them.

There is no contradiction whatsoever regarding the "Golden Rule". For all the unSaved satanists (John 8:44, Matt 12:30), it is only in their interest to become Saved.
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There is no contradiction whatsoever regarding the "Golden Rule". For all the unSaved satanists (John 8:44, Matt 12:30), it is only in their interest to become Saved.


You know, I figured you would see it that way.
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You know, I figured you would see it that way.


Unfortunately, Thomas does not seem to understand that the ends do not justify the means. We are to be Christ-like in all our actions, not just in our end goals and outcomes.
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Unfortunately, Thomas does not seem to understand that the ends do not justify the means. We are to be Christ-like in all our actions, not just in our end goals and outcomes.


Thomas is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY a Troll and pretend character. The person posting as "Thomas" feeds off the attention that making ridiculous anti-scriptural statements get for him/her. The best way to assure "Thomas" is a non-event is to totally ignore him/her. Once the thrill of pushing other posters buttons is gone, he/she will be gone as well.
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Thomas is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY a Troll and pretend character. The person posting as "Thomas" feeds off the attention that making ridiculous anti-scriptural statements get for him/her. The best way to assure "Thomas" is a non-event is to totally ignore him/her. Once the thrill of pushing other posters buttons is gone, he/she will be gone as well.



My prOBlem is (admiting a fault here) that I like to push the buttons of button pushers like TC. I don't like to instigate things with reasonable, good Christians. Actually, I do my best to remain at peace with Christians I disagree with. When I find a heretic (I hesitate to call TC a heretic but he certainly is a bully) that is a bully (most often in this area I'm talking about snOBbish Mormons who look down their nose at Christians for not having a "Melchisedec priesthood or what not) I try to frustrate and embarass him, drive him back into his hole.

I honstely don't know if this is a good thing or not. PrOBably not because it doesn't to be this:

Titus 2:8, "Sound speech, that cannot be condemned; that he that is of the contrary part may be ashamed, having no evil thing to say of you."
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Thomas is TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY a Troll and pretend character. The person posting as "Thomas" feeds off the attention that making ridiculous anti-scriptural statements get for him/her. The best way to assure "Thomas" is a non-event is to totally ignore him/her. Once the thrill of pushing other posters buttons is gone, he/she will be gone as well.


:amen:
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Unfortunately, Thomas does not seem to understand that the ends do not justify the means. We are to be Christ-like in all our actions, not just in our end goals and outcomes.

Is that coming from an Episcopalian? How are those homo priests in your "churches"?

Regarding means and ends, the Lord never bothered being PC, and neither should we!
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Is that coming from an Episcopalian? How are those homo priests in your "churches"?

Regarding means and ends, the Lord never bothered being PC, and neither should we!


Yes, I am Episcopalian, but I am a Christian first. As for the rest of your post, I am not going to dignify your ill-informed statement by commenting. You are here to anger people and so we are done here.
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Something tells me you don't know what that means.


Ah, yes. The old Princess Bride quote. "I do not think that word means what you think it means!"
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Yes, I am Episcopalian, but I am a Christian first. As for the rest of your post, I am not going to dignify your ill-informed statement by commenting. You are here to anger people and so we are done here.

You can't be serious? You can no more be a Christian and Episcopalian than you can be a Christian and a pagan!

As to why I am here, it is to fellowship with other true Christians, those believe in ALL of the Bible and aren't afraid to go out there and preach it!

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