Calvinistic dispensationalists claming not to be Calvinist?

[John81]

Hyper-Calvinism: A False Doctrine
By Dr. John R. Rice

I like reading Dr. Rice's stuff. Spurgeon, a Calvinist, preached against hyper-Calvinists too.

While not dealing with Calvinism, one of the best books I've read was Dr. Rice's book "Prayer: Asking and Receiving". Great book!

[Invicta]

The bible does not tell us to witnes, any way, witnessing is something that is already done. It tells us to preach the Gospel and make disciples.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

There was a man in Scotland who thought it was his duty to go to church, but didn't want to hear the word preached. So every Lord's Day, he used to creep into church and crouch down in the rear pew with his fingers in his ears. One day a fly was buzzing around him and would not go away, so he took one finger out of his ear to shoo the fly away/ As he did, he heard the words, "He that has an ear, let him hear." he did hear and was converted.

Read 1 Kings 25:22 onwards. In verse 34, was the certain man who disOBeyed his orders guided by God? read v 28 again.

[Invicta]

I understand that in those churches that hold to the Calvinist doctrine they do not have invitation.

The gospel isn't an invitation, it is a commmand. God commands all men, everywhere to repent.

Luk 14:23 And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel [them] to come in, that my house may be filled.

[John81]

The bible does not tell us to witnes, any way, witnessing is something that is already done. It tells us to preach the Gospel and make disciples.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

1 Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

1Pe 1:5 Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

There was a man in Scotland who thought it was his duty to go to church, but didn't want to hear the word preached. So every Lord's Day, he used to creep into church and crouch down in the rear pew with his fingers in his ears. One day a fly was buzzing around him and would not go away, so he took one finger out of his ear to shoo the fly away/ As he did, he heard the words, "He that has an ear, let him hear." he did hear and was converted.

Read 1 Kings 25:22 onwards. In verse 34, was the certain man who disOBeyed his orders guided by God? read v 28 again.

That should be 1 Kings 22:25.

All is in the hands of God.

[JerryNumbers]

Mt 5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Mt 5:15 Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.
Mt 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Sounds like some would hide their light under a bushel.

[John81]

Scripture might not tell us to "witness", but what most people mean by witnessing or soul winning is going forth and presenting the Gospel to the lost and this we are commanded to do. Also, our lives serve as a witness and Jerry posted good verses regarding this. There are many more verses which proclaim we are to be salt and light in the world, we are to walk in the Spirit, not in the flesh, we are to live so others will see Christ in us and be drawn to Christ.

All of this could be viewed as a form or part of witnessing or soul winning, terms many use today, which is OBeying the Word as we are spreading the Gospel and living the new life in Christ for the world to see.

[Invicta]

That should be 1 Kings 22:25.

All is in the hands of God.

So it should, sorry a bad typo

[Invicta]

J N Darby, "The father of Dispensantionalism" was in fact a Calvinist

[Invicta]

So I suppose we can say that Dispensationalism is a Calvinist doctrine.

[Brother Rick]

So I suppose we can say that Dispensationalism is a Calvinist doctrine.

I guess Paul's a Calvinist then. Wait! He came before Darby, didn't he?

Eph. 1:10, "That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:"

[1Timothy115]

I have a label for me.

IFPMB...
Independent-Fundamental-Premillennial-Militant-Baptist

Calvinism...Armenianism nope, I don't have room for those add-ons. However, those folks do have parts of what I believe to be God's truth.

I imagine the internet police will have fun discovering what is meant by militant...ha!

[anime4christ]

I guess Paul's a Calvinist then. Wait! He came before Darby, didn't he?

Eph. 1:10, "That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; [even] in him:"

Just because it's called Dispensationalism doesn't necessarily mean it's the same thing Paul is talking about. For example, there are the Pentecostals, yet their understanding of the Pentecost is not the same as in the Bible.

[Covenanter]

Just because it's called Dispensationalism doesn't necessarily mean it's the same thing Paul is talking about. For example, there are the Pentecostals, yet their understanding of the Pentecost is not the same as in the Bible.

That is in fact the ONLY use of dispensation in that sense, so theere is no direct Scriptural support for dispensationalism.

OTOH "covenant" occurs over 300 times & covenant theology & "calvinism" go hand in hand.

[Wilchbla]

The bible does not tell us to witnes, any way, witnessing is something that is already done.

This is exactly why you need to keep Calvinists and their pernicious doctrines out of the Baptist churches. They have ruined the Southern Baptists with their rubbish as well as the Regular Baptists. TULIP Calvinism is the death knell of any church.

[Annie]

I guess it all depends on what you mean by "witnessing." You're correct that the Bible doesn't command us to "witness"...just to share what we have already witnessed: the salvation that is possible through Christ. And, even so, I believe it is only indirectly that we are commanded to do this. The Great Commission was given to the apostles (those present at Christ's ascension). Is there any passage of Scripture that states that a believer's "main jOB" and focus in life is to be "soul-winning?" I was taught (in my IFB school) that the only reason believers are in the world is to "win more converts"...but the older I've gotten, the more I wonder if that idea is really based in Scripture.

I'm not saying we shouldn't share Christ with others; true Christians can't help but do that, each in his own way. But I don't see the biblical basis for the idea mentioned above.