A Few Questions For Those Who Are KJV-Only.

[Guest Guest]

from what I understand, I could be wrong, but I thought Geneva leans more on calvinism, at least on the commentaries.That's why I reject it .
Plus, it didn't have several scholars, who feared God "would strike them dead" AND feared King James if they didn't do it right (although I know King James wanted it done for personal gain, but you know, things did get slowly better after KJV was published) I truly believe God was watching those scholars to get the message right which is why he used King James, a KING, to get it done instead of a simple man of faith.
And no I don't think they are less spiritual. I think they will grow spiritually as I did. I know several people who started out MV and now uses KJV only.

Thank you for your responses, ma'am.
I don't see exactly what you mean by a "king" in comparison to "a simple man of faith".
As to the Geneva Bible, I must say I do not know if it leans more towards Calvinism or not. I have not heard of that; but that does not mean it isn't true.

It seems you did not understand the post I made as you dissected it and replied to it as if I wrote it. I do agree with it, but I did not write it.

Click on this link and it should clear it up for you as well as the stand this board takes on the KJ Bible.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2512

Very well then, sir, I strongly apologize for misinterpreting that.
God bless,
Crushmaster.

[deafnva77]

I mean, God is the king of all kings, so i think he would use a king to get things done the way it should be. But that's just my opinion.

[Guest Guest]

Crush - I answered your first question, and didn't answer the other two because I knew others would do a much better job...as BroMatt proved.

Very well then, ma'am; that's perfectly alright.

To answer another - I don't necessarily believe that someone who uses an MV is spiritually immature - I know some KJVOers who are very spiritually immature. I also know MVers who are very spiritually immature...and arrogant in their immaturity' date=' to boot! As has been stated, MV's [b']contain the Word of God, so people that use them are being fed. And the Holy Spirit is our Teacher and Guide.

Why do they only contain the Word of God, though? Why are they not also the Word of God?

RE: the Geneva Bible...I would love to have a copy...it is hard to read' date=' though! :Green I believe that God preserved His Word for english speaking people (the reason I use that statement was further explained in the post you quoted...I don't think it's necessary to use the KJB to translate...using the same manuscripts would do the same job...and spanish only or german only people, etc., can't read the KJB) in the KJB - granted, the reasoning behind it wasn't quite sacrosanct (the King wanted to do away with marginal comments about government that existed in the Geneva), but I believe that God guided those scholars who translated it. [/quote']
Yes, I can imagine it is hard to read. :smile

[Guest Guest]

I believe...The Word of God
I believe the original texts are the divinely inspired Word of God in its entirety, written by men as they were moved by the Holy Spirit, and that it is the sole authority for the Christian's faith and conduct. I believe the King James Version of the Bible is the preserved Word of God for teaching and preaching to English speaking people. This is what I will use when I post scripture. I believe other English translations contain the Word of God including the latest Catholic authorized version, The New American Bible, Saint Joseph Edition. (2 Timothy 3.16-17; 2 Peter 1.20-21)

I see. But why do things such as the NKJV only contain the Word of God? Why is it not also the Word of God?

[Guest Guest]

I mean' date=' God is the king of all kings, so i think he would use a king to get things done the way it should be. But that's just my opinion.[/quote']
Ahh, I see. Thank you for the clarification, ma'am.
Out of curiosity, what do you think King James was like? In terms of his character?

[deafnva77]

A sinner like you and me of course. But you have to remember, God does take the bad and make something good out of it. The prophets and apostles were no better saint than King James. Anyway, it was the scholars to interpret it, and King James who order them to do it. It's not like King James did all the interpretations.

[deafnva77]

btw, you can read the Geneva for free on e-sword.com

[trc123]

btw' date=' you can read the Geneva for free on e-sword.com[/quote']

You can also read the real KJV1611 at e-sword.com as well; but I highly doubt many here have or would actually read that version due to the alphabet actually being different!

[JerryNumbers]

There is a book entitled, "Thing That Are Different, Are Not The Same, written by Dr Mickey P. Carter. This book deals with the modern versions of the Bible.

Landmark Baptist Press
2222 E. Hinson Ave.
Haines Cit, FL 33844-4902

or call 1/800/700/5322

This book deals with why we should leave the modern versions alone.

[trc123]

There is a book entitled, "Thing That Are Different, Are Not The Same, written by Dr Mickey P. Carter. This book deals with the modern versions of the Bible.

Landmark Baptist Press
2222 E. Hinson Ave.
Haines Cit, FL 33844-4902

or call 1/800/700/5322

This book deals with why we should leave the modern versions alone.

I sometimes listen to Landmark Baptist's radio show over the Internet. My mom and dad live in Haines City and dad loves their Gospel Bluegrass and get's a big kick out of Lester Roloff's singing and preaching.

Good recommendation.

[JerryNumbers]

I know nothing about them, but I highly recommend this book. I've read it 2 or 3 times and looking in it from time to time for a reference.

[Guest Guest]

Why do they only contain the Word of God, though? Why are they not also the Word of God?

The reason the MV's only contain the Word of God is because they are impure. It is pretty straight forward.

It is`written:

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.

I can't hold any of the MV's in my hand with confidence that it is the error free Word of God. To many problems. Quite the opposite of the KVJ. If you wish to go into the various problems with the MV's that can be done, but of course the problems differ depending on the particular version with some versions being worse than others.

[Guest Guest]

[quote="Seth Doty"]The reason the MV's only contain the Word of God is because they are impure. It is pretty straight forward.
It is`written:
[color=#0000FF]Proverbs 30:5 [u]Every word of God is pure:[/u] he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.[/color]
I can't hold any of the MV's in my hand with confidence that it is the error free Word of God. To many problems. Quite the opposite of the KVJ. If you wish to go into the various problems with the MV's that can be done, but of course the problems differ depending on the particular version with some versions being worse than others.[/quote]
Thank you for your thoughts, Brother Seth.
I have a question, though: [b]why[/b] are the versions such as the NKJV "impure", when, in contrast, you say the KJV is "pure"?
You said you cannot hold a MV in your hand with confidence; could that perhaps have to do with the fact you may not have believed it in the first place to be, as you put it, "the error free Word of God"?

In closing, here is an article you may find interesting:
[url=http://www.kjv-only.com/jesusnotkjvonly.html]Jesus Is NOT KJV-Only[/url]
God bless,
Crushmaster.

[JerryNumbers]

Jerry80871852 wrote:
There is a book entitled, "Thing That Are Different, Are Not The Same, written by Dr Mickey P. Carter. This book deals with the modern versions of the Bible.

Landmark Baptist Press
2222 E. Hinson Ave.
Haines Cit, FL 33844-4902

or call 1/800/700/5322

This book deals with why we should leave the modern versions alone.

This book points out the many problems which Seth speaks of.

[futurehope]

[quote="Crushmaster"]I have a few questions for those who are KJV-Only:
1: Do you believe people can be saved by using modern versions (such as NKJV)?
[color=#FF0000]Yes.[/color]
2: 2 Timothy 3:16-17 says, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: {17} That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
This passage tells us Scripture is by inspiration of God, and is profitable for [b]doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness[/b]. These, and providing the way of salvation (faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God) are the main purposes for Scripture.
Do the modern versions (please note: I am not referring to The Message; it does not count) lose their ability to do this?

[color=#FF0000]Yes. In as much as the MV's leave out and add to the Word of God, they lose their ability in these matters. Either on one point or another, no matter how minute it is to a human, they have tried to alter God's word and thereby the doctrine and areas that are for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness.[/color]
3: Is only the KJV capable of accomplishing these things (doctrine; reproof; correction; instruction in righteousness; the way of salvation)?

[color=#FF0000]With 100% accuracy...........Yes - for the reasons aforementioned.[/color]

Please realize I am not asking this to merely stir up trouble. I am looking for honest and civil responses; I myself will also be as civil and honest as possible. Thank you.
God bless,
Crushmaster.[/quote]

[color=#FF0000]Crush,

I would never think that you would be one to want to stir up trouble, so, WHAT IS YOUR ANGLE HERE? Or are you not quite ready to let the cat out of the bag just yet?[/color] :Bleh