10 Most Glaring Problems

[kevinmiller]

I guess that's true. But I think I would be more apt to take a Bible translated by baby-sprinklers than sodomites. lol

But I guess the text is the important thing. I still wouldn't like the idea even if the NIV was an accurate translation... :)

[JerryNumbers]

The NIV is a tainted bible.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/niv_sodomite.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Bible/ni ... mittee.htm

http://www.av1611.org/niv.html

http://www.biblebelievers.com/Graham2.html

http://www.touchet1611.org/SodomyNIV.html

Stay with the good old KJV and you will read the truth, one can't walk in the truth if they are not reading and studying the truth, the KJV is truth.

Of course many of us at onlinebaptist understand Satan has many blinded from the truth, they try to walk in the true Light but fail, because they are not learning about the true Light when they read and study and hear God's Word preached from the NIV.

Kevin, its surprising at the number of people that are in this group who love to tear down God's truth which is contained in the KJV, but they are everywhere.

[kevinmiller]

That's true, they certainly are everywhere. I don't think anyone here believes in the NIV though. :)

[dwayner79]

[quote="kevinmiller"]
That's true, they certainly are everywhere. I don't think anyone here believes in the NIV though. :)
[/quote]

In the spirit of full disclosure, I would consider the NIV a fairly accurate 'functional' (as opposed to formal) translation. Certainly not the best study bible, but ok for reading.

Its just my opinion after looking at the evidences for and against, and it is very different then the position of the board. If you want more, PM me, but I will avoid partaking in a debate on these forums about it. (Mainly because I am woefully outnumbered. :lol: )

[kevinmiller]

Yes you are. LOL

Personally, I think the NIV is one of the worst modern versions.

[JerryNumbers]

[quote="kevinmiller"]
Yes you are. LOL

Personally, I think the NIV is one of the worst modern versions.
[/quote]

Its perverted.

Sunday morning before leaving for church we generally turn the TV on a listen to part of a sermon by a SBC pastor as we get ready for church. Sometimes he does give some good sermons, but at times its down right bad.

This past Sunday morning he said anyone who put down modern translations of the Bible were stumbling blocks of the weak and lost.

That his wife started out with a Living Bible, when it got worn out he replaced it with a new living bible.

Them went on to say the living bible is not the best translation, but its good enough.

Seems that is the way many feel, they just need something that is good enough, that they need to be good enough, and so forth.

But many love to follow the large crowd, be where all the action is, walk with the majority, Jesus told us in Matthew 7:13-14 where the crowd was, were all the action was, were the majority was its not at the strait gate.

Also in the days of Noah, and the 7 others with him on the ark were not in the majority, the majority were in the water, which was God's judgment on them and they perished.

[kevinmiller]

I think some people just don't understand the difference in versions. I have some books by a man whom I greatly respect who uses the KJV, NKJV, NLT and the AMP. He often goes back to the Greek though for illustrating the meanings behind the verses. Which is great if you did that for every NLT verse but I think people just don't realize some of the other translation's origins.

[lettheredeemedsayso]

No one has ever given me a good reason why we need another translation besides the KJV.

[Randy]

I would consider the NIV a fairly accurate 'functional' (as opposed to formal) translation.

I also think it is a fairly accurate translation. It was just translated from corrupted source documents.

[kevinmiller]

I also think it is a fairly accurate translation. It was just translated from corrupted source documents.

Umm...isn't that an oxymoron?

[JerryNumbers]

I also think it is a fairly accurate translation. It was just translated from corrupted source documents.

Fairly accurate! Why settle for fairly accurate? We have a perfect translation, the KJV.

Oh, on the people who hold to several versions, they can build what ever doctrine they want by picking and choosing.

A good example of that is Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame, he uses 15 versions to write this one book, he cannot build his doctrine by using one version. He loves the pick and chose method.

Any book I come across that uses anything besides the KJV, I will not bite, I don't like less than the whole truth.

[kevinmiller]

Rick Warren is just messed up anyway. :D

[Kubel]

I dunno Jerry, there are several groups that build some whacky doctrine based on the KJV as well- I wouldn't call it the fault of the KJV.

People often blame translations, but I argue that it's more of an issue of interpretation of a particular passage than it is the translation. I can back up all the doctrinal beliefs we hold to in a MV just as I can in a KJV (unless of course it's something like the New World Translation).

Here's a linkto a very good article that answers the question that good Christian folks might ask themselves: Why would anyone use a MV if it's so corrupt?

[JerryNumbers]

All I need is one version, I don't need the other version, I've been reading this one, the KJV all of my life.

There is many differences between the KJV and the NIV or any other version.

For instant.

25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.

26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.

27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?

28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?

29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.

30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matt 13:25-30 (KJV)

You read these verses out of the NIV, they change the word tares to weeds, this changes the whole doctrine of these verses, that I don't need. As do many other verse within the NIV and other modern versions.

This verse here, they just leave it completely out of the NIV.

37 And Philip said, If thou believes with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Acts 8:37 (KJV)

Probably the reason is it so strongly teaches that a person needs to believe before being baptized and of course many want to teach baptizing saves a person, not believing on Jesus. Again, this changes doctrine of the Bible.

These are just a few of them, what will they do further down the road, leave out and change ever more of it?

My only agenda as a pastor is truth, the KJV is full of it, its all I need. I do not want to help spreading the agenda of those people who keep rewriting God's Word, which is of the world, which I have overcome thanks to Jesus Christ.

[Randy]

Kevinmiller said:

Umm...isn't that an oxymoron?

Actually no. The TR - the source document for the King James bible is God's Preserved Word. The King James is God's Preserved Word in English.

The Wescott-Hort text is based on a few other documents that were seriously tainted by gnostics. Even an accurate translation from those texts isn't God's Word.