Help Me Understand Why The King James Version Is The Best

[IM4given]

I agree with many of the changes in the list. Such as Easter without doubt should be Passover. But to argue that if we change from thee and thou in the Bible we should also change all the hymns is plain ridiculous I think, and an example of the lengths these people will go to to confuse the issues. In fact using the old English ye, thou, thee does maintain the distinction between singular and plural in Greek and Hebrew, but only for people who understand old English.

"Correcting" the KJV Bible is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! If the scriptures say Easter - then it is Easter and NO OTHER WORD WILL DO.

[Madeline]

*sigh* Is all that screaming necessary? You can continue to ignore all the evidence presented to you, and mark it off as "wrong" because it doesn't match the word written in the KJV - you do that if you feel it's right. But this is your line of argument:

Your line of argument seems to be:

The KJV is the one and "only" 100% inerrant inspired word of God.
Every translation that disagrees with it is wrong and is an attack of the devil on the truth.
Every twisting and misrepresentation of the facts is justified to prove it.

Can't argue with that. It's like arguing with the Muslims who declare that their "Koran" is God's infallible word no matter what. Anyways, I'm wise enough to know when my point isn't getting across. I got things to do, you enjoy the rest of your day!

Love,
Madeline

[pneu-engine]

*sigh* Is all that screaming necessary? You can continue to ignore all the evidence presented to you, and mark it off as "wrong" because it doesn't match the word written in the KJV - you do that if you feel it's right. But this is your line of argument:

Your line of argument seems to be:

The KJV is the one and "only" 100% inerrant inspired word of God.
Every translation that disagrees with it is wrong and is an attack of the devil on the truth.
Every twisting and misrepresentation of the facts is justified to prove it.

Can't argue with that. It's like arguing with the Muslims who declare that their "Koran" is God's infallible word no matter what. Anyways, I'm wise enough to know when my point isn't getting across. I got things to do, you enjoy the rest of your day!

Love,
Madeline

Madeline,

Do I understand you to say that you agree with the changes as presented in the NKJV are accurate and correct???? You pointed out "Easter" changed to "Passover". We know beyond doubt that Herod fully meant that pagan celebration, "Easter", and not passover when he made his statement.

[Guest Guest]

"Correcting" the KJV Bible is WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! If the scriptures say Easter - then it is Easter and NO OTHER WORD WILL DO.

I totally agree. "Correcting" the KJV Bible is wrong! The KJV Bible is God's perfect word in English. It does not need to be corrected!

[pneu-engine]

I totally agree. "Correcting" the KJV Bible is wrong! The KJV Bible is God's perfect word in English. It does not need to be corrected!

Absolutely correct, BG2, :lol

We know that anything at all that God does is 100% perfect, since "He doeth all things well." It isn't enough for Him to do something almost completely perfect, because for Him the word "well" means "perfection".

[Jerry]

Madeline, why can't you seem to get it through your head - your ridiculous Bible corrections are just that: ridiculous!

All you have ever presented by way of "errors" have been your personal biased opinions - which frankly aren't worth ANYTHING when it comes to correcting the Bible - and supposed errors which are not - if you actually cared to research the matter out. Tyndale who coined the phrase Passover, knew this passage was not referring to the Jewish feast, and called it Easter - because it was referring to the feast of Ashtor. Passover had ALREADY passed - and now they were in the week of unleavened bread, which occured AFTER the Passover. The KJV is the only Bible that gets it right.

How many times do you need to be warned about correcting the Bible? THIS IS A KJV ONLY BOARD - YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THAT IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO FELLOWSHIP HERE. We don't need your corrections, and you certainly are not representing the Lord God when you cast doubt on our Bibles (see Genesis 3 and Matthew 4).

[IM4given]

:amen: Jerry, BG2, PE!


I get very :annoyed: :box :B when I hear anyone disrespecting our KJV Bible!

It is blasphemous!

[pneu-engine]

Jerry, BG2, PE!


I get very :annoyed: :box :B when I hear anyone disrespecting our KJV Bible!

It is blasphemous!

...and anything at all that casts doubt on God's pure, perfect and holy Word is blasphemy of the very first order. Our LORD God has some very harsh words for blasphemy. This is not even to mention all of the testimonies of those that have dared to tamper with the Bible and are now suffering tragic speech impediments. :eek

[bibletotingunslinger]

AMEN, Jerry, Randy, IM4G, PE,,,,and OLB Forum, AMEN.
I have spent more time that most will ever know trying to find out why the King James Bible.
I have more books on the subject than anyone can carry at one time, I have studied them all.
I am very tired, I have had a big day. Praise God. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

[Madeline]

...and anything at all that casts doubt on God's pure, perfect and holy Word is blasphemy of the very first order. Our LORD God has some very harsh words for blasphemy. This is not even to mention all of the testimonies of those that have dared to tamper with the Bible and are now suffering tragic speech impediments.

:sad I don't claim to know all the answers to the bible. And of course, I can admit to being incorrect because I am still in the process of learning more about the bible. But to you it is "blasphemous" and deserves punishment from God. Let God search my heart, and he knows that I am still searching for answers. I fall short in many ways and I thank God who is long-suffering and patient enough to realize my shortcomings, even when it comes to biblical understanding. The Lord is my judge.

Love,
Madeline

[pneu-engine]

:sad I don't claim to know all the answers to the bible. And of course, I can admit to being incorrect because I am still in the process of learning more about the bible. But to you it is "blasphemous" and deserves punishment from God. Let God search my heart, and he knows that I am still searching for answers. I fall short in many ways and I thank God who is long-suffering and patient enough to realize my shortcomings, even when it comes to biblical understanding. The Lord is my judge.

Love,
Madeline

He's our Judge, too, Madeline.

We know that God gives His wisdom to anyone that asks in faith believing.

I present to you the following questions::::

#1. Is what God does completely perfect, and no matter how He does it???

#2. Can God keep His promises, as He said He would do???

#3. God promised to preserve His Word(s). Do you believe that He kept that promise???

#4. Did you know that there is a mathematical thread running throughout the entire Bible that links every single word, every single phrase, and every single jot and tittle all together??? This thread is way beyond deciphering by human creatures. Our LORD God just wants us to know that it is there and thank Him for its incredible beauty and intricacy. Even for this reason alone it is extremely crucial that we translate the Word of God precisely word for word, and without deviations. God loves His patterns. He takes a very dim view of the practice of tampering with them. If one single Word of the Bible is tampered with it messes up the pattern. This is why God in His infinite wisdom instituted the TR and Masoretic texts to be translated into English at the time of the early 1600s. He knew that the English language would be at its very peak of power and expressiveness at that time.

I implore you to cast off the modern thinking that ordinary human creatures have any authority at all to change, mix 'n' match, or alter any of God's words. Put away any and all thinking that these New-Age MVs are in any way at all works of God. They are not. Come over to full surrender to the KJV and let it be your sole authority for faith and practice.

[Madeline]

I see...

[Samer]

The reason "Easter" is correct rather than Passover is given in the context:

Act 12:1 Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church.
Act 12:2 And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.
Act 12:3 And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)
Act 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.
Act 12:5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him.

They were the days of unleavened bread, yet Herod was waiting until after Easter.

Ezr 6:19 And the children of the captivity kept the passover upon the fourteenth day of the first month.
Ezr 6:20 For the priests and the Levites were purified together, all of them were pure, and killed the passover for all the children of the captivity, and for their brethren the priests, and for themselves.
Ezr 6:21 And the children of Israel, which were come again out of captivity, and all such as had separated themselves unto them from the filthiness of the heathen of the land, to seek the LORD God of Israel, did eat,
Ezr 6:22 And kept the feast of unleavened bread seven days with joy: for the LORD had made them joyful, and turned the heart of the king of Assyria unto them, to strengthen their hands in the work of the house of God, the God of Israel.

Also see Exodus 12, Leviticus 23, Numbers 9, and other places in the Bible. The Passover comes before the days of unleavened bread. The Passover had already come and gone, so Herod was not waiting for that to end, but something else. So pascha could not have meant Passover in that context.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter

Easter, the Sunday of the Resurrection, Pascha, or Resurrection Day,

Do you know what the modern Greek word for "Easter" is?
You guessed it... pascha

[kevinmiller]

Personally, I think everyone is being a little hard on Madeline. I don't think the issue should be that she is "correcting" the KJV, but whether or not the changes properly reflect what is being said. For example, if someone translated the KJV into Spanish and used equivalent words, same meanings, etc., it would still be God's Holy Word. Likewise, if someone came out with a "new" King James Version with equivalent wording without changing the meanings of the words, it would still say the same thing, just in a different way. I think the issue here should be whether the NKJV is correct in their changes and in their sources, I don't believe they are. But I think attacking Madeline for "blasphemy" is unecessary and irrelevant to the discussion. :2cents

[pneu-engine]

Oh, please let me say::::

The reason that I study astronomy is to get a glimpse (physically) of God's incredible handiwork. We see how wonderful and intricate and powerful and incredibly complex it is. It is way past finding out. I sincerely believe that God wants us to learn all we can about it and finally come to the conclusion that it is way beyond our understanding I am of the firm conviction that God does this to bring us top our knees in surrender to Himself.

This mathematical thread in the Bible that I speak of is precisely that way, also. I believe God put it there to humble us and bring us to Himself in full surrender and come to the conclusion that we are exceedingly inadequate for any task of altering His pure and holy Words.

Just as we cannot reach the far distant galaxies, just so must we not tamper with His Word.