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Hi everyone. I said on another board that the KJB is perfect. People then proceeded to respond and said that saying the KJB is the best is one thing but to say it is perfect is another and it reduces my credibility. Therefore, I ask, am I the only one who believes the KJB is perfect?

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What is the definition of perfect? Basically, it means complete. Yes, the KJV has no errors in it either - and it is certainly the complete Word of God.

The Bible itself says it is perfect:

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

I have been studying the King James Bible for over 9 years now - and one of my favourite things to do is to study out Bible difficulties and supposed Bible errors. There have been no proven errors in it - and every single supposed one has been proven wrong and the Bible difficulties have all been answered.

Basically, when most people cry out that there are errors in it, what they mean is, they don't believe ANY Bible is perfect, and it is not the way THEY would have translated it. But that doesn't make it an error.

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What is the definition of perfect? Basically, it means complete. Yes, the KJV has no errors in it either - and it is certainly the complete Word of God.

The Bible itself says it is perfect:

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

I have been studying the King James Bible for over 9 years now - and one of my favourite things to do is to study out Bible difficulties and supposed Bible errors. There have been no proven errors in it - and every single supposed one has been proven wrong and the Bible difficulties have all been answered.

Basically, when most people cry out that there are errors in it, what they mean is, they don't believe ANY Bible is perfect, and it is not the way THEY would have translated it. But that doesn't make it an error.


Hmmm, good post and I agree with you!
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People then proceeded to respond and said that saying the KJB is the best is one thing but to say it is perfect is another and it reduces my credibility.


What they are really telling you is that they don't believe that God has preserved His word at all. Even a little ambiguity in this allows them to think that 'maybe' parts of the bible that deal with them are not of God. Either it is God's word, or it is not - there is no middle ground.

2nd Timothy 3:16 tells us that ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and Proverbs 30:5 says that every word of God is pure. We are also told in Psalm 12:7, Psalm 100:5, Psalm 117:2, Matthew 5:18, and Matthew 24:35 that Gods word will endure forever.
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What they are really telling you is that they don't believe that God has preserved His word at all. Even a little ambiguity in this allows them to think that 'maybe' parts of the bible that deal with them are not of God. Either it is God's word, or it is not - there is no middle ground.

2nd Timothy 3:16 tells us that ALL scripture is given by inspiration of God, and Proverbs 30:5 says that every word of God is pure. We are also told in Psalm 12:7, Psalm 100:5, Psalm 117:2, Matthew 5:18, and Matthew 24:35 that Gods word will endure forever.


Yep. It is quite simple really. And this one guy keeps insulting me by saying "Don't kid yourself." and "Just keep telling yourself that." Needless to say, I put the jerk on ignore.
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What is the definition of perfect? Basically, it means complete. Yes, the KJV has no errors in it either - and it is certainly the complete Word of God.

The Bible itself says it is perfect:

Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

James 1:25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.

I have been studying the King James Bible for over 9 years now - and one of my favourite things to do is to study out Bible difficulties and supposed Bible errors. There have been no proven errors in it - and every single supposed one has been proven wrong and the Bible difficulties have all been answered.

Basically, when most people cry out that there are errors in it, what they mean is, they don't believe ANY Bible is perfect, and it is not the way THEY would have translated it. But that doesn't make it an error.


This is were we differ, I do not believe there is a perfect translation. The Greek bears this out. But of course you cannot accept any of the alexanderian manuscripts.

God Bless
John
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... I do not believe there is a perfect translation.
John


JTB:

Are you aware that you are in effect calling God a liar, because He promised to preserve His Word, and we know full well that He doeth all things well (as in, complete perfection).
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This is were we differ, I do not believe there is a perfect translation. The Greek bears this out. But of course you cannot accept any of the alexanderian manuscripts.



Your post is the classic and newly arrived heretical doctrine of "fallible" scriptures.

Could you please quote one verse from any Greek mss that in fact supports your position? Could you please cite one verse of scripture in any version you care to that will in fact support your false and heretical stance that there is no perfect translation?

Are you prepared to teach then that the quotes of the OT in the NT are in fact fallible and non-admissible as scripture?

Alexandrian mss have nothing to do with this new false teaching that is being posited in the Body of Christ.

You sir are teaching heresy and should repent.

God bless,

Calvary
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This is were we differ, I do not believe there is a perfect translation. The Greek bears this out. But of course you cannot accept any of the alexanderian manuscripts.


John, why do you bother to post comments like this? Does it make you feel better to be the voice of doubt? You know where this website stands - and it seems like all you have been doing lately is making little comments like this. If you have something GOOD to input, then by all means do so - if you are only posting to buck our stands again, don't bother. It is tiring reading these type of comments.
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John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.

John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.

John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.

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Hi everyone. I said on another board that the KJB is perfect. People then proceeded to respond and said that saying the KJB is the best is one thing but to say it is perfect is another and it reduces my credibility. Therefore, I ask, am I the only one who believes the KJB is perfect?


I started a BIG FIGHT on another board by making a statement like that because there were others there who believed their JW Bible was perfect, and still another believed her RCC Douey-Rheymes was perfect and a Mormon proclaimed her Book of Mormon to be perfect and so forth. I got booted in less than 24 hours! I was told I would have to APOLOGIZE and make nice with all of the board members or else! It seems those of us who are KJVO are nothing but a bunch of trouble makers! AMEN! :lol :lol :lol:
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Your post is the classic and newly arrived heretical doctrine of "fallible" scriptures.

Could you please quote one verse from any Greek mss that in fact supports your position? Could you please cite one verse of scripture in any version you care to that will in fact support your false and heretical stance that there is no perfect translation?

Are you prepared to teach then that the quotes of the OT in the NT are in fact fallible and non-admissible as scripture?

Alexandrian mss have nothing to do with this new false teaching that is being posited in the Body of Christ.

You sir are teaching heresy and should repent.

God bless,

Calvary


Ignorance is Bliss.
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I think the only time we can consider any scripture to be perfect was when it was originally written by those who wrote it. There will always be slight deviations from one Bible to the next because of the differences in translation and the fact that it was hand copied for over a thousand years. I think what is important though is that the general meaning is still preserved in all Bibles, except for maybe JW and Mormon Bibles, because they are not Christian.

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I think the only time we can consider any scripture to be perfect was when it was originally written by those who wrote it. There will always be slight deviations from one Bible to the next because of the differences in translation and the fact that it was hand copied for over a thousand years. I think what is important though is that the general meaning is still preserved in all Bibles, except for maybe JW and Mormon Bibles, because they are not Christian.


Mike:

Please ask yourself if God truly kept His promise to preserve His Word in all of its perfection as He promised to do.

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