Thoughts on the NKJV

[pneu-engine]

Reading-comprehension is your friend' date=' guys. If I thought the other versions were better than the KJV, I would have stated so. In fact, I agree with the KJV being the superior translation, and my post says as much. I just figured with the other translations available, they act as commentaries on certain portions of Scripture. That was all I was sayin'. You guys just love to hate...a typical earmark.

It may surprise you to know, that I'm one of the more conservative-minded people you're likely to meet (especially if you come to my church). I'm only in the librul corner because that's where you have painted me, mostly because I don't adhere to the the "it's truth because I said so" philosophy. Oh, and thanks for the restating of the "official board position" - I was unaware a board of this size needed so many mods... :roll

Here's the thing VD, and I do NOT speak for everyone on the board.

I remain convinced after doing very much study that the "PER"-versions that you listed are NOT alternative views. They are erroneous views. Now why would we want to mix the Truth from the LORD with devilish error??? :puzzled:

BTW, your acid-rhetoric gives away your true position. It is easily perceived that you have a deep-rooted bitterness. It is oooooozing out of you and showing forth in your posts. I've high-lighted it up there so you can see it. I show it to you because we cannot see or hear ourselves except thru the eyes and ears of other people.

[Guest Guest]

Here's the thing VD, and I do NOT speak for everyone on the board.

I remain convinced after doing very much study that the "PER"-versions that you listed are NOT alternative views. They are erroneous views. Now why would we want to mix the Truth from the LORD with devilish error??? :puzzled:

BTW, your acid-rhetoric gives away your true position. It is easily perceived that you have a deep-rooted bitterness. It is oooooozing out of you and showing forth in your posts. I've high-lighted it up there so you can see it. I show it to you because we cannot see or hear ourselves except thru the eyes and ears of other people.

I'm glad that you remain convinced of such. I merely said I use them as commentaries. Are the commentaries you use also the "inspired" Word of God?

I don't need you to highlight my words in red to tell me that I am sarcastic. In fact, I know I use sarcasm too often - call it a weakness. Funny thing about that though, whenever you use rhetoric - it's all in good fun. If I use it, it has to be rooted in the bitterness that is "ooozing" out of me. I don't believe anything to be true because any one man said it (no, this does not include the incarnate form of God). I fail to see where using the head that God has given me proves my bitter state. I am anything but bitter, and you sir, have spoken out of turn about my character yet again.

Keep it coming, it shows who you really are.

[Jerry]

VD, for a newcomer, I really think you need to take a step back and look at the overall attitude of your posts since you came here. If you came here for fellowship, can the sarcasm and the comments meant to belittle others. Fellowship is based on what we can agree on - about the Lord and His Word - not on what you can stir up.

What use is a "commentary" (ie. modern version) in helping you understanding the King James Bible, when it states different things and has different meanings in soooo many places?

[Guest Guest]

VD, for a newcomer, I really think you need to take a step back and look at the overall attitude of your posts since you came here. If you came here for fellowship, can the sarcasm and the comments meant to belittle others. Fellowship is based on what we can agree on - about the Lord and His Word - not on what you can stir up.

What use is a "commentary" (ie. modern version) in helping you understanding the King James Bible, when it states different things and has different meanings in soooo many places?

You know, honestly Jerry, you're not exactly lacking in the sarcasm department. I have also been the recipient of sarcasm and belittling, yet no one cares about those posts. In this thread, I sincerely was not trying to stir up anything. I just stated my view, which is what the OP asked for.

When a commentary or any external influence differs from the Word of God -- it's a no-brainer: you follow God's Word.

[John81]

I've yet to read a commentary that I believe accurately comments upon the Whole Word of God. I can see how one could view some MVs as similar to a commentary in that in a few places their wording can help expound a point. The problem is, most people look at the MVs as just as much, more more so, the Word of God as they do the KJB, and there are many problems within the MVs where rather than expounding anything, they lead one astray or give totally wrong information.

Now, for one grounded in the Word and faith I suppose maybe they could use some MVs in a comparative manner as they might a commentary but I certainly wouldn't recommend the practice myself and I would never direct a younger believer to do such. Of course, I generally don't think younger (immature or less mature) believers should use a commentary either unless they have a mature Christian around to help them with such because I've seen too many young Christians led astray by wrong ideas from commentaries.

[Marcus2Israel]

:nutty I can't believe that pneu-engine and Jerry are picking on you, Vir, for sarcasm! :nutty And another ":nutty" for P-E's "oooooooozing" post. :lol:

[Guest Guest]

Now' date=' for one grounded in the Word and faith I suppose maybe they could use some MVs in a comparative manner as they might a commentary but I certainly wouldn't recommend the practice myself and I would never direct a younger believer to do such. [u']Of course, I generally don't think younger (immature or less mature) believers should use a commentary either unless they have a mature Christian around to help them with such because I've seen too many young Christians led astray by wrong ideas from commentaries.

Such a true statement. Excellent post, again, John.

[RayJr]

satan does things in small steps a word changed here a word left out here or added there why bring this trash into your homes I choose not to, if you do, I understand, God has given us free will to make mistakes and to turn from him and his word, and more of this will happen as his coming draws nigh.

[madmax]

I have a question for anyone using the NIV, can you show me a single scripture separating Jesus from lucifer?, or using any MV, {NKJV included}, can you show me who Jehovah is? Probably been covered, but I'm new and havent seen this discussion.

[Jerry]

The only Bibles that would even qualify in any way as commentaries would be the forerunners to the KJV, and possibly Webster's 1833 Bible - Bibles translated from the same text and that are in general agreement, but use different words. Bibles translated from other texts, that have changed, added to or subtracted from the text, certainly cannot help you understand the KJV - when they are not even saying the same thing.

[Guest Guest]

The only Bibles that would even qualify in any way as commentaries would be the forerunners to the KJV' date=' and possibly Webster's 1833 Bible - Bibles translated from the same text and that are in general agreement, but use different words. Bibles translated from other texts, that have changed, added to or subtracted from the text, certainly cannot help you understand the KJV - when they are not even saying the same thing.[/quote']

Do you use any commentaries for your scripture study that were printed before 1611? I doubt it. Not that you actually have the 1611 version of the King James, in fact - reading scripts previous to that date would be very difficult.

I think I understand what you're saying (doesn't mean I agree), but I'm just wondering if that is a consistent principal that is applied, or if it only applies to "commentaries" that define themselves as other versions of the Bible.

[ezra517]

Actually people can purchases a KJV Bible 1611, printed as you would have seen it in 1611. They are not to hard to get a hold of.

http://www.theKJvstore.com/product_deta ... d=1&pgid=2


And Amen to Jerry

[Guest Guest]

Actually people can purchases a KJV Bible 1611' date=' printed as you would have seen it in 1611. They are not to hard to get a hold of.[/quote']

I did not say that you could not purchase one that imitated what the Old English text looked like. You can do the same with the 1599 Geneva Bible. What I said, was that they are a little tough to read. That is what I said and then I asked a question, nothing more.

Not everything that I type has to necessarily be incorrect, even by your standards. The fact that you are over-meticulously searching for "chinks" in anything I write, worries me slightly. Normally, I'll just laugh and ignore it, but to imply or even state that I wrote something that I did not -- is pretty much lying.

[ezra517]

Vir, no one is picking on you, no one is out to get you. I dont have that mindset of constantly trying to get even with others. There is no need to get hostile. I will have to choose another thread that you are not on to prevent you from getting upset.


God Bless You

[Guest Guest]

Vir, no one is picking on you, no one is out to get you. I dont have that mindset of constantly trying to get even with others. There is no need to get hostile. I will have to choose another thread that you are not on to prevent you from getting upset.


God Bless You

lol...by all means, post here.

Again, I never said anyone was picking on me or out to get me. As for a word study, you would first have to be offended in order to even have the desire to "get even" (which you do not have that desire, I understand). If I have offended you, I apologize. I meant only to clarify your interpretation of what I had written earlier. I think we both are above posting wholly in personally offensive tones.

If you still feel you have to post in other threads because of me, I offer an additional apology, because I post all over the board...and would hate to cause you that much trouble. :Green

Carry on, Ezra... :smile