Liberals' Bane

[Theopolitan]

Oops. I am not KJVO. See ya!

Edited December 29, 2022 by Theopolitan
Not KJVO. See ya!

[Pastor Matt]

He saw himself out the door. Where's the love? Lol

Will he not fellowship with those that are KJV?

I have questions

[BrotherTony]

That's really sad!

 

[Napsterdad]

Can't say I understand the thread's title "Liberal's Bane" either.

Edited December 29, 2022 by Napsterdad

[bluewater]

Okay, an undefined forum topic ... so here's a go at furnishing the subject matter.

Would 'liberals bane' be patriotic conservatism? And I'm curious if anyone equates patriotic conservatism with Christianity.

For instance - I've been to scores of Baptist churches that prominently display an American flag in the sanctuary. I questioned one church why they kept the American flag in the santuary and suggested that it had no part in the worship of God. They responded as if I wanted to remove Jesus from the congregation.

Does your church keep an American flag in the sanctuary, and why?

[Pastor Matt]

We do not have an American flag in our auditorium. I personally have no problem with a church having the flag from the country they are in (unless it's worshiped) on the stage, I just find it tacky and needless in the front of the auditorium. 

[Salyan]

That's such an American thing! Canadian churches don't do that by and large.... I've seen it in just a couple churches pastored by recent American implants.  

[BrotherTony]

4 hours ago, PastorMatt said:

We do not have an American flag in our auditorium. I personally have no problem with a church having the flag from the country they are in (unless it's worshiped) on the stage, I just find it tacky and needless in the front of the auditorium. 

I've only been a member of one church that had the American flag on the platform. I'm not against it as long as it doesn't become a "god." The focus of our worship is Jesus Christ. 

[Napsterdad]

4 hours ago, BrotherTony said:

I've only been a member of one church that had the American flag on the platform. I'm not against it as long as it doesn't become a "god." The focus of our worship is Jesus Christ. 

Same here. That church had the American and the Baptist Flag both on the podium to either side. I don't recall anyone ever giving them (either one) even a thought. 

[HappyChristian]

We don't have a platform. But we do have an American flag as well as a Christian flag. We used to have large ones but we are in such a small space that I felt they were overwhelming and unnecessary. So we bought flags that are 6-8 inches long (my hubs gives me great liberty in decorating). They stand on the table at the front near my hubs' chair.

We do not worship said flags - either of them - as they are simply symbols of things we respect.  They do not override our worship of our Lord, nor do they take up as much space as the large Bible we have on the table near where our song leader sits.  (and the small size keeps them from being tacky   )

The why? Because the flag represents the land of liberty in which God has placed us and we choose to acknowledge it thus (even though we know liberties are being eroded...although not by people who love this country). The Christian flag is there because it represents the liberty God gives us in Christ. We salute neither (although if we had a school, the kids would), we don't even mention them. They are simply there.

Now, when mid-May rolls around, the red, white, and blue decorations come out and stay out til after Independence Day. When we have missionaries in, we use flags from their countries in the decor, to acknowledge their fields of service.

Aren't we all thankful for our independent churches and liberty in Christ? 

[Pastor Matt]

20 hours ago, Salyan said:

That's such an American thing! Canadian churches don't do that by and large.... I've seen it in just a couple churches pastored by recent American implants.  

Was it an American flag that they had in a Canadian Church? If so, that is a little too much for me. 

 

@Theopolitan Don't know why you ran. Just because we use the KJV doesn't mean we can't have a conversation and respect each other. I would love to know what your original post was about. 

[bluewater]

6 hours ago, HappyChristian said:

We do not worship said flags - either of them - as they are simply symbols of things we respect.

The Statue of Liberty also represents this land of liberty. Would you mind a small statue of liberty being in the sanctuary, such as a small piggy bank where children could place their offering by coin?

[Pastor Matt]

All these replies and bluewater final got the one he was looking for 

[bluewater]

2 hours ago, PastorMatt said:

All these replies and bluewater final got the one he was looking for 

I'm right here Matt. You can address me directly, rather than in the 3rd person and about me.

 You did the same thing to theopolitan; spoke about him behind his back and then laughed. Where's the love in that?

I came searching for fellowship, but I sensed something not right. And what did I find - an administrator-pastor making fun of someone after they left; and another administrator-pastor's wife who could learn that the Lord Himself is our banner, that Christ is our freedom/liberty given by God (no symbols necessary).

 

[Pastor Matt]

I'm confused. I replied directly under you in a public forum where you would get the notification. No one is making fun of you or anyone else but rather found the humor in who you replied to. It seems to me you were only looking to reply to people who had a flag in the auditorium, and that is what I found humor in. I only did the first person because you didn't address my reply to your question, so I did it publicly in the third person. My apologize as I didn't mean to offend you, I just didn't think you wanted to talk to me after I answered your question. 

If you will notice that I "@" theopolitan, so that he would get the notification (either browser or email) so that we could have a conversation. Nothing was done behind anyone's back, it's how message board software works. It works different than social media.

Lastly, it was a smile emoji, not the lol emoji. In other words, not to be taken seriously.