Members Jerry Posted July 9, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 9, 2008 When you expose something from one of his books, people cry that the movies are not the same. It is interesting to note that Lewis' son who is involved in the production of the movies stated it was his goal to make sure they were the same, that the same message was carried across into the movies that was in the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John81 Posted July 9, 2008 Members Share Posted July 9, 2008 There are professing Christians who claim the movies could lead one to Christ because Aslan is such a clear representation of Christ. Were I not saved, I have no doubt that the bit of similarity between Aslan and Christ would have never entered my mind. Even if I had previously read that Aslan was a "type of Christ", I don't see enough of Christ in Aslan that would have even slightly pointed me to Christ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 Good post salyan, it is always a blessing to hear how the Lord helped someone to see something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted July 9, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 9, 2008 Excellent post, salyan!!! Y'know, regarding Aslan being a metaphor for Christ...Aslan was the son of the Emporer over the sea...and you had to go east to find him (anyone remember the trip some of the characters took, and the water turned to flowers, etc?). East is the direction of the rising sun, and it is a big thing in Masonry. Does anyone know if Lewis was interested in Freemasons? The thought just occured to me about this part of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tired Posted July 11, 2008 Members Share Posted July 11, 2008 I think it is hard to prove someone is a mason unless they tell you. Many of these famous masons sites may just add famous dead people to make people think how great the masons are. Many of his writings are mason style. The masons mix many religions into their own. So we may see christian buzzwords mixes with pagan writings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted July 11, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2008 I think it is hard to prove someone is a mason unless they tell you. Many of these famous masons sites may just add famous dead people to make people think how great the masons are. Many of his writings are mason style. The masons mix many religions into their own. So we may see christian buzzwords mixes with pagan writings. Oh, I know - that's why I was wondering if anyone knew if he had ever voiced it. Would be interesting to know for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tired Posted July 11, 2008 Members Share Posted July 11, 2008 I went on some famous mason sites and he wasn't on there. But that doesn't mean nothing. Billy Graham was on a Kentucky or Tenessee mason site for some time then was pulled. So this type of thing will keep masonry in a veil of secrecy. I had a guy at work invite me to a lodge. He said I could find the light. He is a deacon at his church. I told him the Light of the world was already in me and I didn't need the light he was pushing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators HappyChristian Posted July 11, 2008 Administrators Share Posted July 11, 2008 I went on some famous mason sites and he wasn't on there. But that doesn't mean nothing. Billy Graham was on a Kentucky or Tenessee mason site for some time then was pulled. So this type of thing will keep masonry in a veil of secrecy. I had a guy at work invite me to a lodge. He said I could find the light. He is a deacon at his church. I told him the Light of the world was already in me and I didn't need the light he was pushing. Amen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted July 15, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 15, 2008 Hey, look what I found hiding back in the archives!viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13316 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 Ok, so some wacked people do worship Aslan... I just never heard of that before. But that doesn't make anyone who watches the movie an Aslan-worshipper. Some. <> More like hundreds of churches, that means lost of people, not just some people. Why read and enjoy something that is responsible for sending many people to hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kevinmiller Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 How is a book responsible for sending someone to Hell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jerry Posted July 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 How is a book responsible for sending someone to Hell? The same way a Book is responsible for sending people to Heaven. Books contain teaching - if the doctrine is false, it will lead others astray - yes, even to Hell. If a book is soundly Bible-based and presents the Gospel, it can lead others to Heaven. C.S. Lewis did not teach the truth - he watered it down, and denied some of the fundamentals of the faith as well as other sound doctrines. He certainly was not leading people to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work upon the cross for salvation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kevinmiller Posted July 16, 2008 Members Share Posted July 16, 2008 The same way a Book is responsible for sending people to Heaven. Books contain teaching - if the doctrine is false, it will lead others astray - yes, even to Hell. If a book is soundly Bible-based and presents the Gospel, it can lead others to Heaven. C.S. Lewis did not teach the truth - he watered it down, and denied some of the fundamentals of the faith as well as other sound doctrines. He certainly was not leading people to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ and His finished work upon the cross for salvation. So if a book is not leading someone to Heaven, it must be leading them to Hell? I think that's a bit far-fetched. Sure, he might not spell out the plan of salvation in Narnia, but I hardly think you can blame the books for people dying and going to Hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Salyan Posted July 17, 2008 Moderators Share Posted July 17, 2008 I don't think a book would be responsible for sending someone to hell just because it doesn't point the way to heaven. I would hesitate to say any book is responsible for just a deed in any case: no book we read will ever grab us by the throat and force us to do anything. :getrdun: However, what we read can contribute to false ideas that influence the choices we make in regards to heaven or hell. In that way, a book can influence (although not be responsible for) our choice in that area. Semantics, but still important to note. That being said, I do not believe Narnia to be innocent on this account. The ideas presented in The Last Battle could certainly be an influence toward faulty soteriology (sorry, I couldn't resist! :frog ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JerryNumbers Posted July 17, 2008 Members Share Posted July 17, 2008 I don't think a book would be responsible for sending someone to hell just because it doesn't point the way to heaven. I would hesitate to say any book is responsible for just a deed in any case: no book we read will ever grab us by the throat and force us to do anything. :getrdun: However, what we read can contribute to false ideas that influence the choices we make in regards to heaven or hell. In that way, a book can influence (although not be responsible for) our choice in that area. Semantics, but still important to note. That being said, I do not believe Narnia to be innocent on this account. The ideas presented in The Last Battle could certainly be an influence toward faulty soteriology (sorry, I couldn't resist! :frog ). What we let in our brain is what we become. It does have an effect on us. If it was not for the writings of C. S. Lewis, "Hundreds of churches across the country are preparing services on the theme of The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe to coincide with the release of the multi-million pound Disney film next month." This came from the site that Alimantado posted, and I say thank for posting this site.http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... arnia.html That is these hundreds of churches, thousands of church members would not be dappling in the wicked stuff that C. S. Lewis wrote about. C. S. Lewis's wicked writing started a chain of events that is still causing people to do, that which God forbids His children to take part in. 23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king. 1 Sam 15:23 (KJV) Why would any child of God enjoy reading a book that is about witches, enchantments, and such junk? Why would you want such junk in your mind? why would you say such stuff is harmless? Do you know better than God? 21 (Touch not; taste not; handle not; 22 Which all are to perish with the using;) after the commandments and doctrines of men? Col 2:21-22 (KJV) There are many thing God's children should not taste, handle, nor touch. I promise you God knows what is best for us. When we go over that line, we are asking for trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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