Members Popular Post DaveW Posted December 28, 2016 Members Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2016 The "length of Sermon" thread - or rather some of the responses in it, have brought to my mind something which I thought of a while back. There was a thread about "loud preaching" a while back and there were the same kinds of answers given in that thread. What I speak of goes something like this: "I like long preaching", or "I Like loud preaching". Length in and of itself is irrelevant. Volume in and of itself is irrelevant. "Enthusiastic delivery" in and of itself is irrelevant. These things are irrelevant because no one would say they like a sermon that is doctrinally incorrect just because it is long. No one (after thinking about what has been said) would say a doctrinally incorrect sermon was great based on its volume or the enthusiasm with which it is delivered. Sure enough, sometimes people get all worked up in the moment, but when the excitement fades you often find that there is little substance to it. This is the key to "good preaching" - the Biblical substance.is what is important, not the volume, the intensity, or the length. So next time you are asked if you like "loud preachin' " or "long preachin' ", maybe you should think about it a bit before just answering "yep, sure". I like good preaching whether it is loud or quiet, whether it is gentle or hard, whether it is long or short. These things mean nothing IF the content is not there. I have sat through 2 1/2 hours of missions presentation and preaching and felt like I would be happy for him to continue - disappointed in fact that he was finishing - and I was not the only one. But I have also sat there after 10 mins thinking "I wish this guy would close it off right now" - and not because of conviction, but because it was a waste of time. And I am sorry to say, the majority (not ALL of it, but the majority) of "Loud Preachin' " that I have sat under was loud for the sake of being loud. I have heard some really, really, really good loud preaching, but it was good because it was full of Bible content, not because of it's volume. I personally have to force myself to "get loud" on occasion, and I wish it would come more naturally to me, but there are a lot of things about my preaching that I wish I could do better. However God called me to this, and I have to assume that He knows what He is doing in this regard. I will continue to work at improving my preaching, and I will continue to try to improve and vary my delivery, but it is what it is. Anyway, those are my two cents, and I will most likely get change from some of you, which is your right too. Have a good night, (or day, or whenever it is with you) Dave. 1Timothy115, busdrvrlinda54, WellWithMySoul and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pastor Scott Markle Posted December 28, 2016 Members Share Posted December 28, 2016 3 hours ago, DaveW said: I like good preaching whether it is loud or quiet, whether it is gentle or hard, whether it is long or short. These things mean nothing IF the content is not there. Brother Dave, I give some of my "change" - Amen, and AMEN!!! 2 Timothy 4:2 -- "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Jim_Alaska Posted December 28, 2016 Administrators Share Posted December 28, 2016 I agree, content is everything and delivery should be in direct proportion to the leadership of The Holy Spirit, as well as the convictions of the man delivering the message. I do not think that there is any one method of delivery or length of sermon that appeals to all, but I do think that when a sermon is genuinely empowered by The Holy Spirit people will recognize the source as being the Good Shepherd. In these instances neither length nor volume of the sermon will be of any consequence. Pastor Scott Markle, 1Timothy115 and No Nicolaitans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ... Posted December 28, 2016 Members Share Posted December 28, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, DaveW said: Length in and of itself is irrelevant. This is the key to "good preaching" - the Biblical substance.is what is important, not the volume, the intensity, or the length. So next time you are asked if you like "loud preachin' " or "long preachin' ", maybe you should think about it a bit before just answering "yep, sure". I like good preaching whether it is loud or quiet, whether it is gentle or hard, whether it is long or short. These things mean nothing IF the content is not there. I agree with you completely. Content is essential. Loud or long preaching for its own sake, at the expense of sound content, is like putting lipstick on a pig. I think that we all meant was that we prefer a long and/or loud sound sermon rather than a short and/or quiet sermon that is sound. Anyone who would sacrifice quality for quantity or volume should probably be slapped in the face with a dead fish. Edited December 28, 2016 by Brother Stafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted December 28, 2016 Members Share Posted December 28, 2016 When we were first married I was really annoyed with my wife when she started her shopping list for the next day during the sermon. When I told her to stop she said that she had heard it all once and he was repeating himself to fill in the time. She sai the only preacher she had heard who did not repeat himself was John Stott who she heard when she was at college. That was when we were in the Brethren. Now we have been in Baptist churches we don't get repetative preaching, not usually anyway. Personally, I don't thing presentations should be part of a Lord's Day service, which should be preachig the word. I often say this to our church officers as we have non believers in the services that need the preaching and by the time they get to the sermon they have lost interest. My opinion is that presentations should be for the midweek meeting where we can discuss, and ask questions and then pray about the work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted December 29, 2016 Members Share Posted December 29, 2016 I agree its the content that matters. I can't stand listening to topical sermons in the style of "Elevators in the life of Jonah" or the like. Who cares?! Pastor Scott Markle and No Nicolaitans 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pastor Scott Markle Posted December 29, 2016 Members Share Posted December 29, 2016 8 hours ago, John Young said: I agree its the content that matters. I can't stand listening to topical sermons in the style of "Elevators in the life of Jonah" or the like. Who cares?! "Elevators in the Life of Jonah"????? Ok, now that one was a completely new one for me. What "elevators"? No Nicolaitans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members No Nicolaitans Posted December 29, 2016 Members Share Posted December 29, 2016 Elevators in the life of Jonah... That's pretty funny! Bro. Scott, perhaps it's to do with the "ups and downs" that Jonah experienced? Genevanpreacher and Pastor Scott Markle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Young Posted December 31, 2016 Members Share Posted December 31, 2016 On 12/29/2016 at 7:07 AM, Pastor Scott Markle said: "Elevators in the Life of Jonah"????? Ok, now that one was a completely new one for me. What "elevators"? The times Jonah went up and down. For example.... Jonah 1:3 But Jonah rose up to flee unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord, and went down to Joppa; and he found a ship going to Tarshish: so he paid the fare thereof, and went down into it, to go with them unto Tarshish from the presence of the Lord. Jonah 1:15 So they took up Jonah, and cast him forth into the sea: and the sea ceased from her raging. Jonah 1:17 Now the Lord had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. Jonah 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was about me for ever: yet hast thou brought up my life from corruption, O Lord my God. Jonah 2:10 And the Lord spake unto the fish, and it vomited out Jonah upon the dry land. ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 1, 2017 Members Share Posted January 1, 2017 I once visited a Baptist church with a friend and they had a visiting preacher. His message was something like "God is not only a forgiving God, he is also a for giving God," and many people shouted loud amens. He said "You can see I grought a number of my congregation along." He kept repeating "God is not only a forgiving God, he is also a for giving God," and more and more joined the amens. I don't remember him saying much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted January 15, 2017 Members Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/1/2017 at 11:22 AM, Invicta said: I once visited a Baptist church with a friend and they had a visiting preacher. His message was something like "God is not only a forgiving God, he is also a for giving God," and many people shouted loud amens. He said "You can see I grought a number of my congregation along." He kept repeating "God is not only a forgiving God, he is also a for giving God," and more and more joined the amens. I don't remember him saying much else. Sometimes the take away is what the Holy Spirit had in mind for each individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ... Posted January 15, 2017 Members Share Posted January 15, 2017 A few of these made me laugh so hard I think I tinkled a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 15, 2017 Members Share Posted January 15, 2017 31 minutes ago, Brother Stafford said: A few of these made me laugh so hard I think I tinkled a little. Why Black Preachers? Why not just "10 Types of Preachers"? What difference does their colour make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ... Posted January 15, 2017 Members Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Invicta said: Why Black Preachers? Why not just "10 Types of Preachers"? What difference does their colour make? The guys that made the video are black and many black people feel the need to attach their color to whatever they do. Some of the styles are more often found in "black" churches, but I have seen a white preachers do them too; even the "asthma" style. I just thought it was a funny video. Edited January 15, 2017 by Brother Stafford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Invicta Posted January 15, 2017 Members Share Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) I am sorry bro. I didn't watch the video, the title put me off. From time to time we have black preachers at out church and they are no different in their preaching from any other preacher, except at times from their accent. We don't have any black members but we do get black visitors from time to time. We had one this morning who is occasional. and there is another who occasionaly comes in the evening. When my daughter was working as a nanny in Long Island, she went into a church, not knowing it was a black church. She sat at the back and a little girl said in a loud whishper, "Mommy. there is a white lady." Edited January 15, 2017 by Invicta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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