Can God Use A Man That Drinks Wine?

[Standing Firm In Christ]

All I am saying is, if someone says only Jesus gives eternal life, they'd better be pointing to the right Jesus.

You would not expect to find hotdogs at an ice cream shop.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

You guys obviously don't think it is important which Jesus one points to or which Jesus one believes in.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

From http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/category-doctrine.html


This statement demonstrates an incredible ignorance of the Word of God and of the essence of true Christianity. Consider some of the false christs that are in the world today:

1. The Wafer Jesus who is worshipped in the Roman Catholic mass.
2. The Mormon Jesus who was Lucifer’s brother and a polygamist.
3. The Modernist Jesus who was not born of a virgin.
4. The Unitarian Jesus who was not God.
5. The Universalist Jesus who will not send anyone to Hell.
6. The Prosperity Jesus who was wealthy.
7. The Laughing Jesus who “slays” people with his spirit and causes them to laugh uncontrollably and to stagger like drunk men.
8. The Self-esteem Jesus who never called man a sinner and who came merely to build up his self-image.
9. The Revolutionary Jesus who was the founder of Liberation Theology.
10. The Shack Jesus who is cool and non-judgmental and whose Father is a woman.
11. The Hindu Jesus who learned to be “the christ” at the feet of gurus.
12. The Islamic Jesus who did not die for man’s sins.


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Several of the above groups teach their members that Jesus is the Son of God who died, was buried and rose again.  Yet the Jesus they teach is clearly NOT the Jesus of the Bible.

Is Jesus' Father a woman?  Did Hindus teach Jesus how to be 'Christ'? 

If you cannot see the importance of preaching the right Christ to the lost, something is seriously wrong.
 

[heartstrings]

From http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/category-doctrine.html


This statement demonstrates an incredible ignorance of the Word of God and of the essence of true Christianity. Consider some of the false christs that are in the world today:

1. The Wafer Jesus who is worshipped in the Roman Catholic mass.
2. The Mormon Jesus who was Lucifer’s brother and a polygamist.
3. The Modernist Jesus who was not born of a virgin.
4. The Unitarian Jesus who was not God.
5. The Universalist Jesus who will not send anyone to Hell.
6. The Prosperity Jesus who was wealthy.
7. The Laughing Jesus who “slays” people with his spirit and causes them to laugh uncontrollably and to stagger like drunk men.
8. The Self-esteem Jesus who never called man a sinner and who came merely to build up his self-image.
9. The Revolutionary Jesus who was the founder of Liberation Theology.
10. The Shack Jesus who is cool and non-judgmental and whose Father is a woman.
11. The Hindu Jesus who learned to be “the christ” at the feet of gurus.
12. The Islamic Jesus who did not die for man’s sins.

13.The Pentecostal Jesus and "Freewill Baptist" Jesus who makes you depend on yourself to keep saved.

14. The Calvinist Jesus who doesn't love everyone and created some for Heaven, others for Hell for his own "glory".

[Arbo]

I wonder if SFIC would be willing to list in detail what he believes are the required beliefs about Christ that are necessary for salvation.

I guess not.

[candlelight]

I guess not.

 
You always make me laugh, Arbo.  

[Arbo]

You always make me laugh, Arbo.  

That is what Mrs. Arbo tells me often.

Actually, I think she laughs at me...

[Arbo]

I am starting to wonder if SFIC is more interested in the gospel of temperance than the Gospel of Christ.

[candlelight]

That is what Mrs. Arbo tells me often.

Actually, I think she laughs at me...

 

You have a great sense of humor, Arbo.  

Yeah, she may be laughing at you, but I am laughing with you.  

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Arbo, are you more interested in an alcoholic Jesus or a sinless one?

[John81]

SFIC,

 

According to your unbiblical position, that means Edwards, Whitefield, Wesley, Spurgeon and a host of other preachers and evangelists were not saved and nobody got saved through their preaching.

 

That, in turn, means that all those who thought they were saved through their preaching and then shared the Gospel didn't see anyone saved either.

 

This means, hundreds of thousands, perhaps into the millions, of folks who were saved through their preaching and the preaching and witnessing of those saved through their preaching, and onward, were not actually saved.

 

All of this because, even though they preached the biblical Gospel and hundreds of thousands or more believed and accepted Christ, none of them could be saved because they all held to beliefs regarding Christ that you disagree with.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

If they preached a false christ and people did not believe anything but their preaching, then they would have led thousands upon thousands to hell.

My position is not unbiblical.  I teach people to point to the true Christ, not one who drank alcohol, not one who gave alcohol to man.  Not one who has a perpetual virgin for a mother, etc..

[John81]

What does Scripture say one must believe about Jesus in order to be saved?

 

It's been posted here before and it has nothing to do with what a person thinks about alcohol or if they have even considered the alcohol question.

 

It's clear what all those men preached and it's clear hundreds of thousands were born again through their preaching, and each of them held to views you disagree with.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

John, which Jesus does the Bible say we are to believe in/on? A false christ of the Catholic church? Or another false Christ? Or the Jesus presented in the Word of God?

[HappyChristian]

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