What If...

[candlelight]

Thank you, ASOD.  If I'm not mistaken my FIL has that book.  

The Vatican also murdered ex Jesuit priest, Roberto Rivera (he is in Chick Tracts).  Anyway, Rivera turned to Biblical Christianity, after being a Jesuit, and revealed that the Vatican created Islam.  They poisoned him to death after a couple of failed attempts.

[Donillo]

Thank you, ASOD. If I'm not mistaken my FIL has that book.

The Vatican also murdered ex Jesuit priest, Roberto Rivera (he is in Chick Tracts). Anyway, Rivera turned to Biblical Christianity, after being a Jesuit, and revealed that the Vatican created Islam. They poisoned him to death after a couple of failed attempts.

you read that on a chick tract??

[candlelight]

you read that on a chick tract??

 No.  I have an article and three videos for RCC people to view.  There is also one video that is geared towards Muslims.

[ASongOfDegrees]

Thank you, ASOD.  If I'm not mistaken my FIL has that book.  

The Vatican also murdered ex Jesuit priest, Roberto Rivera (he is in Chick Tracts).  Anyway, Rivera turned to Biblical Christianity, after being a Jesuit, and revealed that the Vatican created Islam.  They poisoned him to death after a couple of failed attempts.

I don't think they murdered Rivera but he claimed they made an attempt on his life. 

 

You might want to check out some of Avro Manhattan's books on the subject of the RCC and the Jesuits. You can find some of his books online to read. Here's one of them:

 

http://seawaves.us/na/web4/VaticansHolocaust.html

 

Neither of these men (Manhattan or Paris) ever made a profession of faith that I know of. Paris was Roman Catholic to the day he died that I'm aware of. So it can't be claimed that they were fundamentalists with an axe to grind.

[Dr James Ach]

I don't think they murdered Rivera but he claimed they made an attempt on his life. 

 

You might want to check out some of Avro Manhattan's books on the subject of the RCC and the Jesuits. You can find some of his books online to read. Here's one of them:

 

http://seawaves.us/na/web4/VaticansHolocaust.html

 

Neither of these men (Manhattan or Paris) ever made a profession of faith that I know of. Paris was Roman Catholic to the day he died that I'm aware of. So it can't be claimed that they were fundamentalists with an axe to grind.

50 Years In the Church of Rome by Charles Chiniquy is a good one, too. And of course, the class "The Two Babylons" by Hislop. Avro Manhatton has one that shows how all the world bankers end up at Rome and how the RCC has financed all the major world wars throughout history (Vatican Billions).

[Dr James Ach]

you read that on a chick tract??

And what's wrong with the information in the Chick tracts?

[candlelight]

I don't think they murdered Rivera but he claimed they made an attempt on his life. 

 

You might want to check out some of Avro Manhattan's books on the subject of the RCC and the Jesuits. You can find some of his books online to read. Here's one of them:

 

http://seawaves.us/na/web4/VaticansHolocaust.html

 

Neither of these men (Manhattan or Paris) ever made a profession of faith that I know of. Paris was Roman Catholic to the day he died that I'm aware of. So it can't be claimed that they were fundamentalists with an axe to grind.

According to information I have, after a couple of attempts on Rivera's life, the Vatican succeeded in poisoning him to death.  I have asked BroMatt if I could post the information I have in the False Religion section of OB.  I am waiting to hear back from him.

Thanks, ASOD.  I will read the information.

[ASongOfDegrees]

 No.  I have an article and three videos for RCC people to view.  There is also one video that is geared towards Muslims.

Have you ever read the book, "Is Alberto for Real"? A lot of the brethren think he's a fraud but this book puts up some good arguments that what he says is true. I know a lot of the smear from magazines like "Christianity Today" were because he was a monkey wrench in the machine to get Protestants and Catholics to unify. Even if he was a crack pot most of the things he claim are true. Even his claim that Islam was a creation of the papacy has some facts to back it up. 

[ASongOfDegrees]

50 Years In the Church of Rome by Charles Chiniquy is a good one, too. And of course, the class "The Two Babylons" by Hislop. Avro Manhatton has one that shows how all the world bankers end up at Rome and how the RCC has financed all the major world wars throughout history (Vatican Billions).

I read Avro Manhattan's books "CatholicTerror in Ireland" (the title has been changed to "Religious Terror in Ireland") and "Vietnam... why Did We Go?". Both fascinating reads.

[ASongOfDegrees]

According to information I have, after a couple of attempts on Rivera's life, the Vatican succeeded in poisoning him to death.  I have asked BroMatt if I could post the information I have in the False Religion section of OB.  I am waiting to hear back from him.

Thanks, ASOD.  I will read the information.

It wouldn't surprise me.

[candlelight]

Have you ever read the book, "Is Alberto for Real"? A lot of the brethren think he's a fraud but this book puts up some good arguments that what he says is true. I know a lot of the smear from magazines like "Christianity Today" were because he was a monkey wrench in the machine to get Protestants and Catholics to unify. Even if he was a crack pot most of the things he claim are true. Even his claim that Islam was a creation of the papacy has some facts to back it up. 

 No, I haven't.  My first encounter with Alberto Rivera was with reading Chick Tracts.  Most of the RCC teachings I have read come from information I read in Chick Tracts.  I have several books on the RCC from Chick, as well.
 

You could be right, ASOD.  I did a google search, and indeed Albeto Rivera died in 1997.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Rivera

[Donillo]

And what's wrong with the information in the Chick tracts?

I wouldn't consider that as a classical source of historical data. Whenever I have read one, it struck me as far-fetched and out of this world, beyond belief. He is truly showing anti-catholic irrational bias and everything about Catholics is just pure evil.

[ThePilgrim]

This is an excellent  book on the subject, glad to see that it's online

I have read this and it explains a lot of things in the history of the world and the church.  The Roman Church is EVIL.  Saying that, I am not saying all catholics are evil, but the Roman church and it's hierarchy are.

 

God bless,

Larry

[candlelight]

I wouldn't consider that as a classical source of historical data. Whenever I have read one, it struck me as far-fetched and out of this world, beyond belief. He is truly showing anti-catholic irrational bias and everything about Catholics is just pure evil.

 

If you know Jack Chick's history, you will find that he uses a comic form of witnessing to people b/c of his artistic talent.  Maybe his tracts seem "far fetched" to you b/c the RCC is so evil that it seems far fetched.  Chick isn't saying that the Catholic people are evil, either.  He is talking about the "Mother Church" in general.  Growing up as a little girl, my dad said... "There is more corruption in the Vatican, than there is in the federal government."  And, I was raised in the RCC.  Chick is known by many people as being a "Conspiracy Theorist."  I call them conspiracy facts.  The RCC leads more people to hell daily, than souls are being won to Christ Jesus.  The Vatican is a wicked organization.  Open your eyes, Donillo!  Growing up in the RCC, I couldn't figure out what the point of going to this "church" was about.  I floundered around for years, not knowing the purpose of life but wanting to know it so badly.  Sadly, many fall away Roman Catholics, are in the world, with no hope of salvation b/c they have been turned off by the RCC.  Until you live it, you don't know what you are talking about.  I pray daily that the Lord Jesus Christ takes my family out of the horrific RCC.  

[Donillo]

If you know Jack Chick's history, you will find that he uses a comic form of witnessing to people b/c of his artistic talent. Maybe his tracts seem "far fetched" to you b/c the RCC is so evil that it seems far fetched. Chick isn't saying that the Catholic people are evil, either. He is talking about the "Mother Church" in general. Growing up as a little girl, my dad said... "There is more corruption in the Vatican, than there is in the federal government." And, I was raised in the RCC. Chick is known by many people as being a "Conspiracy Theorist." I call them conspiracy facts. The RCC leads more people to hell daily, than souls are being won to Christ Jesus. The Vatican is a wicked organization. Open your eyes, Donillo! Growing up in the RCC, I couldn't figure out what the point of going to this "church" was about. I floundered around for years, not knowing the purpose of life but wanting to know it so badly. Sadly, many fall away Roman Catholics, are in the world, with no hope of salvation b/c they have been turned off by the RCC. Until you live it, you don't know what you are talking about. I pray daily that the Lord Jesus Christ takes my family out of the horrific RCC.

I think I can understand the intense feelings against RCC by those who grew up in it, then finally experiencing the new birth, they can feel cheated and used. In that sense my wife had the same experience, her also growing up in it. When the free Methodist pastor was talking about Jesus and the holy spirit, she would not understand and then a light came on she was born again. I grew up with no religion ergo I don't have those feelings.