Are our children really growing up too quick???

[JerryNumbers]

Are public schools really good when you compare them to God's Word?

Does public schools teach children they can be and do anything they want to? Are do they teach children to only follow what God wants for them and that which is right in the sight of God?

Moses, if he had went the other direction he could have had the high life, riches along with it, but he chose to follow God, he lived a hard life, not the easy life he would have had. I firmly feel today's public school would have corrupted Moses.

24 By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;

25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;

26 Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward.

27 By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king: for he endured, as seeing him who is invisible.

28 Through faith he kept the passover, and the sprinkling of blood, lest he that destroyed the firstborn should touch them.

29 By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land: which the Egyptians assaying to do were drowned.

Heb 11:24-29 (KJV)

Following God does no mean and easy life, a job with no sweat, a house with every comfort, not in Moses' day, not in our day.

Would you rather have your son to chose to follow God and have a hard life and do without many worldly possessions, or chose to be anything he wants to and have riches of this world?

[John81]

Jerry :goodpost:

All public schools are ungodly institutions determined to indoctrinate young minds in the ways of the world.

[JerryNumbers]

Jerry

All public schools are ungodly institutions determined to indoctrinate young minds in the ways of the world.

Your absolutely right on that John, but they're many Christians that will not believe that fact, and they have been that way for many years, even in the 50's & 60's, they're just getting worse ever year.

[futurehope]

Thanks John and Jerry! Good posts. I am just glad to see that some christians are still not willing to accept what this world calls as good to be good in the sight of Almighty God. I have heard of this ranking system that ranks public schools, but who ranks them? Christians that fear God and love His word; or the same public school system that has condemned any teachings that would bring glory and honor to God? I don't see how any system that won't allow God in can be good. I think that we have really lowered our standard of what good is. For anything to be good, it must come from God.

[blossom]

Choosing a school is not an easy decision. People do the best they can. I am a state teacher, there are many christian teachers in state schools working hard to shine the Lord's light.

I thought it would be easy to choose but it wasn't for lots of reasons. Most parents want the best for their kids. My child attends an A.C.E. private school. Now I am considering homeschooling.

To all Parents, prayerfully make your decision, and continue to pray for your kids. No matter what system, there will be positives and negatives.

[futurehope]

Where Godliness is discouraged and the wisdom of this world is taught as righteousness, the negatives outway the positives to a point where it should not be an option to those who truly want to raise their children up in the way that they should go.

[blossom]

I know the downfalls of the state system. I agree that state education promotes an anti bible agenda, but I also know people who have sent their kids to a state school and those kids have grown into wonderful servants of Christ.

Some people have no choice. I know some who are very upset about having to obey their husbands and send to public schools.

We need to remember the Grace of God.

[Guest Guest]

Your absolutely right on that John, but they're many Christians that will not believe that fact, and they have been that way for many years, even in the 50's & 60's, they're just getting worse ever year.

Well...given that I have no choice on the matter, b/c I am divorced, and my son's dad is unsaved...I "try" to make the most of it. This has been a battle that I would rather not get into on OB. Thank you. Sure...they are NOT Christian schools, but...I will tell you---that, Christian people do work in the public school system. Not all Christians are teaching in Christian schools. Thank the Lord Jesus Christ for that! In fact...thank God He is in control, and not man. :thumb

It seems to me that "some" people forget that not everyone has the opportunity to send their children to an IFB school. Believe me...I wish that I could have. I wish that I could have home schooled my son. However, that was not possible. I make the most out of the situation that I have in front of me, and do the best job that I can. That is all that God requires of any of us. :-) Is it not? God bless.

[JerryNumbers]

I know the downfalls of the state system. I agree that state education promotes an anti bible agenda, but I also know people who have sent their kids to a state school and those kids have grown into wonderful servants of Christ.

Some people have no choice. I know some who are very upset about having to obey their husbands and send to public schools.

We need to remember the Grace of God.

Should a Christian base their decisions on the families who have gone ahead and sent their children to an ungodly school that happened to turn out OK?

I know Christians that say, "So and so's children turned out alright, so it must be alright." So they do the same thing and their children turn from the Lord and they will say, "I did as so and so, I can't imagine where I went wrong."


Have you thought about the millions that didn't?

Actually God's ways are much above our way, as is His thoughts, so we ought always base our decisions on his truth.

There have always been some good Christians in our public school system, but fewer with each new year, and how much leaven does it take to ruin the whole things?

6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

1 Cor 5:6 (KJV)

That right there is the problem with the public school system, not it has much leaven in it.

So is it not true, the Bible ought to be our ONLY guide?

Yes, its good to remember God's grace, but we need to remember not to abuse it, and not use it to do wrong.

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:1-2 (KJV)

[Guest Guest]

There have always been some good Christians in our public school system' date=' but fewer with each new year, and how much leaven does it take to ruin the whole things?[/quote']


Very true, Pastor Jerry.

[blossom]

Should a Christian base their decisions on the families who have gone ahead and sent their children to an ungodly school that happened to turn out OK?

I know Christians that say, "So and so's children turned out alright, so it must be alright." So they do the same thing and their children turn from the Lord and they will say, "I did as so and so, I can't imagine where I went wrong."


Have you thought about the millions that didn't?


Actually God's ways are much above our way, as is His thoughts, so we ought always base our decisions on his truth.

There have always been some good Christians in our public school system, but fewer with each new year, and how much leaven does it take to ruin the whole things?

6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

1 Cor 5:6 (KJV)

That right there is the problem with the public school system, not it has much leaven in it.

So is it not true, the Bible ought to be our ONLY guide?

Yes, its good to remember God's grace, but we need to remember not to abuse it, and not use it to do wrong.

1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Romans 6:1-2 (KJV)

I agree with everything you and futurehope have said. You would have noticed that we chose a bible based curriculum. I just think that some don't have a choice and a little understanding and encouragement would go a long way. Just to clarify, the truth needs to spoken, but with grace.

Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man. Colossians 4:5

[futurehope]

Well...given that I have no choice on the matter, b/c I am divorced, and my son's dad is unsaved...I "try" to make the most of it. This has been a battle that I would rather not get into on OB. Thank you. Sure...they are NOT Christian schools, but...I will tell you---that, Christian people do work in the public school system. Not all Christians are teaching in Christian schools. Thank the Lord Jesus Christ for that! In fact...thank God He is in control, and not man. :thumb

It seems to me that "some" people forget that not everyone has the opportunity to send their children to an IFB school. Believe me...I wish that I could have. I wish that I could have home schooled my son. However, that was not possible. I make the most out of the situation that I have in front of me, and do the best job that I can. That is all that God requires of any of us. :-) Is it not? God bless.

Please know that I (and while I don't speak for Jerry) nor Jerry meant to offend you or single out your situation. You are in a very different situation and, if your son lives primarily with his father (as I am assuming from your post), you really have no choice in the matter but to be in constant prayer for him and his teachers. It's more the parents who are in the "traditional" home situation and would rather send their children to government schools rather than bring them up knowing that they are being brought up in the love, knowledge, and fear of Almighty God that disturb me. However, we were only commenting on the misconception theat people have of ANY public school being good and not addressing any individual or group of parents. Your situation is very special, just as you are in that God reached down and touched you with the knowledge of the grace given through His son and our Lord, Jesus Christ while you were entangled in the ways of this world. We are all very unworthy of such a merciful God.

[John81]

God ALWAYS provides a way for His people to do the right thing. God never tells us to do one thing and then leaves us in a position where we can't obey.

When we first looked into homeschooling everyone told us we couldn't do it. The cost was to great, we both couldn't work, etc. Even sitting down doing the financial figuring it looked impossible. Then, I determined that if God wants and expects parents to raise their children according to His Word then He would provide the means to do so. We began homeschooling even though everyone told us it couldn't work and even though our own financial calculations showed it wouldn't work. Praise God because it did and continues to work!

What good is a "great education" if a child is lost to the devil? What does the Bible call a great education? Why do some Christians trust the Lord in some areas but not when it comes to raising and educating their own children?

[JerryNumbers]

[quote="John81"]God ALWAYS provides a way for His people to do the right thing. God never tells us to do one thing and then leaves us in a position where we can't obey.

When we first looked into homeschooling everyone told us we couldn't do it. The cost was to great, we both couldn't work, etc. Even sitting down doing the financial figuring it looked impossible. Then, I determined that if God wants and expects parents to raise their children according to His Word then He would provide the means to do so. We began homeschooling even though everyone told us it couldn't work and even though our own financial calculations showed it wouldn't work. Praise God because it did and continues to work!

What good is a "great education" if a child is lost to the devil? What does the Bible call a great education? Why do some Christians trust the Lord in some areas but not when it comes to raising and educating their own children?[/quote]

True John, but some look at everything as if its an obstacle, them say, I can't do it.

I feel sure you and the wife both made many sacrifices to do so, in the end it will be worth while.

[Guest Guest]

[quote="futurehope"][quote="candlelight"]Well...given that I have no choice on the matter, b/c I am divorced, and my son's dad is unsaved...I "try" to make the most of it. This has been a battle that I would rather not get into on OB. Thank you. Sure...they are NOT Christian schools, but...I will tell you---that, Christian people do work in the public school system. Not all Christians are teaching in Christian schools. Thank the Lord Jesus Christ for that! In fact...thank God He is in control, and not man. :thumb

It seems to me that "some" people forget that not everyone has the opportunity to send their children to an IFB school. Believe me...I wish that I could have. I wish that I could have home schooled my son. However, that was not possible. I make the most out of the situation that I have in front of me, and do the best job that I can. That is all that God requires of any of us. :-) Is it not? God bless.[/quote]


Please know that I (and while I don't speak for Jerry) nor Jerry meant to offend you or single out your situation. You are in a very different situation and, if your son lives primarily with his father (as I am assuming from your post), you really have no choice in the matter but to be in constant prayer for him and his teachers. [b]It's more the parents who are in the "traditional" home situation and would rather send their children to government schools rather than bring them up knowing that they are being brought up in the love, knowledge, and fear of Almighty God that disturb me.[/b] However, we were only commenting on the misconception theat people have of ANY public school being good and not addressing any individual or group of parents. [b]Your situation is very special[/b], just as you are in that God reached down and touched you with the knowledge of the grace given through His son and our Lord, Jesus Christ while you were entangled in the ways of this world. We are all very unworthy of such a merciful God.[/quote]


Thanks fututehope for your understanding. :thumb There are "some" people out there that are very critical...regardless, on this matter. They lack "understanding" in this area that I have no control over. :-(