Do you believe.....

[IM4given]

I would not be the least bit surprised if something like this does live in the deepest jungles!

After all, there are many "living fossils" that were once thought extinct for millions of years, only to be found in remote parts of the planet: http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008 ... is-ne.html

[Guest Guest]

I would not be the least bit surprised if something like this does live in the deepest jungles!

After all, there are many "living fossils" that were once thought extinct for millions of years, only to be found in remote parts of the planet: http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008 ... is-ne.html

Excepts the world hasn't been around for millions of years.
God bless,
Crushmaster.

[JerryNumbers]

But how much of that stuff that comes out of Roswell and the military is nothing but gossip and rumors?We know what God's thoughts are about gossip and rumors.

Happy New Years to all.

[Guest Guest]

But how much of that stuff that comes out of Roswell and the military is nothing but gossip and rumors?We know what God's thoughts are about gossip and rumors.

Happy New Years to all.

[Guest Guest]

Hmmm? Interesting site. I think.

http://www.evolution-facts.org

I am posting this again, because I believe it is good information. I scanned through many chapters last night...and, Seth is right on the money!!

[trc123]

But how much of that stuff that comes out of Roswell and the military is nothing but gossip and rumors?We know what God's thoughts are about gossip and rumors.

Happy New Years to all.


According to my BIL "Retired Commander in the US Navy" it is "fluff NOT stuff." :thumb

Happy New Years to all, as well. :-)

Yeah, it's easy to just dismiss off the cuff when it is something that scares you and challenges your already preconceived notions......

[Guest Guest]

Yeah, it's easy to just dismiss off the cuff when it is something that scares you and challenges your already preconceived notions......

Rut-roh. This isn't something that I have said. My BIL told me this. We had some things happen in Cleveland a while back---regarding this exact same thing. He had just come back from Kuwait. He retired out of the Navy some time ago, and was working in Kuwait for Boeing. These UFO sitings were all over the news in this area. We could actually see strange sightings and various other strange things in the sky. He got into a conversation with me about the Military and the things that they do for experimental purposes. This is not coming from any "preconceived notions" of mine. Actually, this kind of thing fascinates me. I think it is :cool

[trc123]

Rut-roh. This isn't something that I have said. My BIL told me this. We had some things happen in Cleveland a while back---regarding this exact same thing. He had just come back from Kuwait. He retired out of the Navy some time ago, and was working in Kuwait for Boeing. These UFO sitings were all over the news in this area. We could actually see strange sightings and various other strange things in the sky. He got into a conversation with me about the Military and the things that they do for experimental purposes. This is not coming from any "preconceived notions" of mine. Actually, this kind of thing fascinates me. I think it is :cool

My apologies, I wasn't meaning to be harsh and I'm sorry that I wrote it that way. I sure you (and he) are right that much is due to military experiments and the such. There are thousands though that report things (many of which are earnest, honest, non-drinking, non-drugging, non-emotionally disturbed people) that 99.9% of us (yes, I did say us) just discount immediately without a proper vetting.............again, my apologies.

[Guest Guest]

Oh, that is alright. No apologies are necessary, trc. I am just going by, what he has told me, is all. I did find it rather :cool and that is why I called him about it. The radio announcer (here in Cleveland) Mike Trivisano had it broadcast on his show. It was some really neat stuff. Also, another time...(and this I am not sure about this) my hubby and I saw some beautiful things in the sky when we were just married. We were driving west, to go out to dinner, and the sky lit up in red and white with (what looked like protective hands) that seemed to be coming down from the sky. We looked in awesome wonder at that site, b/c it was so beautiful. I don't know if living on Lake Erie makes a difference, at all? We have often thought about that. I dunno.

[John81]

I saw a UFO once when I was a teen. Whatever it was, it was very bright and silent but when it passed almost right over where we were camping it caused some vibration. The thing flew past our location and seemed to drop lower as it got to a valley area between the hills. As it dropped out of sight the cows over in that area began mooing and carrying on very loudly.

My friend and I grabbed every light we could carry and I got my big walking stick and we started heading in that direction. On the way my friend got very scared, near panic, so we truned around and went back to our campsite.

We never did find out what it was, and I still have no idea to this day. My friends grandmother, who lived near there, said she had seen UFOs out there a few times. She said they seemed to kind of follow a similar pattern each time she saw them; kind of going the same direction as a particular fence row and then at about the same spot they would take what seemed like about a 90 degree turn and shoot off extremely quickly. Her husband kept telling her it was someone driving a truck out in a field. One night she bugged him about it enough that he drove them down to the field so he could prove to her it was a truck but when they got there the snow was still fresh, not a tire track leading up to the field gate and not a track in the field.

That's my one and only encounter with a UFO and that was about 30 years ago.

[pneu-engine]

I saw a UFO once when I was a teen. Whatever it was, it was very bright and silent but when it passed almost right over where we were camping it caused some vibration. The thing flew past our location and seemed to drop lower as it got to a valley area between the hills. As it dropped out of sight the cows over in that area began mooing and carrying on very loudly.

My friend and I grabbed every light we could carry and I got my big walking stick and we started heading in that direction. On the way my friend got very scared, near panic, so we truned around and went back to our campsite.

You betcha you were scared. :thumb To that I say the guys that designed and built that craft did a very good job at what they do. :Green It is precisely what my friends and I did in New York when we flew our crafts. :lol:

[trc123]

I saw a UFO once when I was a teen. Whatever it was, it was very bright and silent but when it passed almost right over where we were camping it caused some vibration. The thing flew past our location and seemed to drop lower as it got to a valley area between the hills. As it dropped out of sight the cows over in that area began mooing and carrying on very loudly.

My friend and I grabbed every light we could carry and I got my big walking stick and we started heading in that direction. On the way my friend got very scared, near panic, so we truned around and went back to our campsite.

We never did find out what it was, and I still have no idea to this day. My friends grandmother, who lived near there, said she had seen UFOs out there a few times. She said they seemed to kind of follow a similar pattern each time she saw them; kind of going the same direction as a particular fence row and then at about the same spot they would take what seemed like about a 90 degree turn and shoot off extremely quickly. Her husband kept telling her it was someone driving a truck out in a field. One night she bugged him about it enough that he drove them down to the field so he could prove to her it was a truck but when they got there the snow was still fresh, not a tire track leading up to the field gate and not a track in the field.

That's my one and only encounter with a UFO and that was about 30 years ago.

I had a very scary experience as a teen as well; but it didn't involve a UFO.

I was a 16 year old teenager and my dad and I were in the car taking a young lady home that I was sweet on. We were driving along a very dark (no street lights) country road when out in the cow pasture under a very large oak/elm tree (back before the dutch elm disease killed them all) there was a huge bonfire. Around the bonfire were people dressed in white outfits with those large white dunce caps on their heads. My dad started to slow down to "see what it was," and at about that time we realized it was the KKK burning a cross under the tree. Now this is in upstate New York not far from the Canadian border on Lake Ontario and there was NEVER anything like that ever seen in our area. My dad told us to not tell anyone we saw it or our lives might be in danger.

We dropped the young lady off at the home in the town where she and her parents were staying (about 7 miles away). We did NOT go back home by that route.

[JerryNumbers]

Talking about that cross, I saw one in the median of I-40 East of Nashville, Tennessee, late one night burning, that would have been in about 77 or 78, I had been to the east coast and was on my way back to Arkansas.

Usually there were many truckers talking on the CB Radio, but that night they all seemed rather quite, it was a spooky site to me.

No doubt, many people have seen many things, many really don't know what they saw. There is no doubt that our military is constantly testing air craft, many of the are very high speed, they are top secret so they're not going to let the public know that is what Mr. & or Mrs. Private Citizen saw.

Edited to add.

Wonder how man thought thye saw an UFO when this happened?

11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
2 Kings 2:11 (KJV)

[Guest Guest]

Interesting conversation! :thumb

Does anyone have any thoughts on what I posted: I don't know if living on Lake Erie makes a difference, at all? We have often thought about that. I dunno.

Lake Erie is the most shallow of the Great Lakes. The early settlers, the American Indians, named it "Lake Erie" because it often has an eerie way about it. Actually, that is an understatement. Storms come up out of no where off of Lake Erie...and, if you don't take cover---ASAP, you are in big trouble!! Thoughts anyone?

[John81]

[quote="trc123"]

I had a very scary experience as a teen as well; but it didn't involve a UFO.

I was a 16 year old teenager and my dad and I were in the car taking a young lady home that I was sweet on. We were driving along a very dark (no street lights) country road when out in the cow pasture under a very large oak/elm tree (back before the dutch elm disease killed them all) there was a huge bonfire. Around the bonfire were people dressed in white outfits with those large white dunce caps on their heads. My dad started to slow down to "see what it was," and at about that time we realized it was the KKK burning a cross under the tree. Now this is in upstate New York not far from the Canadian border on Lake Ontario and there was NEVER anything like that ever seen in our area. My dad told us to not tell anyone we saw it or our lives might be in danger.

We dropped the young lady off at the home in the town where she and her parents were staying (about 7 miles away). We did NOT go back home by that route.[/quote]

An interesting sidenote that's not commonly known, is the post-Reconstruction KKK reached its zenith outside the South. The largest Klan rallies were held in northern states, the state of Indiana nearly elected an openly KKK man as governor at a time when much of that state was run by or heavily influenced by the state KKK.

The original Klan disbanded after the occupying Yankee armies were removed from Dixie. The largest expression of the KKK was in the early 20th century. This was a national event, not Southern, and the Klan was largest and strongest outside the South at that time. There was another Klan appearing during the "civil rights" era. The "Klans" of today are typically small, isolated groups that more often than not amount to a few family members and some friends. The term KKK belongs to no one so anyone can call themselves the KKK if they choose.

One documentary I watched which featured a Klan group near the PA border was made up of a husband and wife, their few children, another relative and their family, and maybe a friend for two. They were had pressed to get a dozen people together. However, by looking at their internet site which was shown in the documentary, one would get the impression they were much larger and connected around the country. They would hold "rallies" a few times a year in order to make some headlines so they could try and raise money for the hard work they faced. One rally they showed in the documentary amounted to those few people, the "Grand Wizard" (the guy who had the computer and started the group; as the documentary narrator noted) spoke using a bullhorn as dozens of police kept the anti-Klan protestors away from them. Naturally, what he wrote on the internet site the next day sounded far more impressive than what the documenatry tape clearly showed.