Do You Think Revival Will Soon Come To America?

[JerryNumbers]

A lady at church this morning, she is in her 70's, she stated, I believe in my life time I just might see a pad lock place on our church door by the government.

It would not surprise me either, there are few that have any use for us who teach there is only one way to God, that being Jesus.

6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:6 (KJV)

Of course they will not bother those who say there are many ways to God, I feel sure they will be full steam ahead.

[Wilchbla]

I do believe a great deal of persecution of Christians is coming to America. Oftentimes persecution brings about a measure of revival.

There isn't a "one size fits all" revival. The term is used to convey different meanings. It's possible the Lord will send revival in a manner and time in which we least expect.

Maybe among believers. Persecution will seperate the men from the boys and shift out of lot of the frauds. But as far as changing the nation like revivals of old accomplished? Never!

[John81]

Maybe among believers. Persecution will seperate the men from the boys and shift out of lot of the frauds. But as far as changing the nation like revivals of old accomplished? Never!

Yes, I was speaking of revival among believers in such a case. While I tend to believe you are right with regards to a national revival and great change I wouldn't go so far as to say "never" because our God does like surprising us so I still believe such is possible even though I do believe it's not likely.

One scenario I could picture would be a local or regional revival bringing about change that greatly upset the powers that be and the clash brought about being used as the catalyst to usher in widespread persecution of real Christians.

In such a case we would see the popularity churches going to great lengths to condemn the "evil fundamentalists" and earning good standing with the government by selling out true Christians.

[JerryNumbers]

A thought came to my mind about this. What is your idea of revival?

If it of revival with in a few churches across our country, you might see it.

But if your idea of a revival is many people, thousands upon thousands, getting saved all across our nation, I fear that want happen.

Most of the crusades that are held in our country, they have helpers from most ever belief in American stand down front to receive those who come forward, so at such an event there is not much chance of many getting truly save for they probably want have the truth.

Here in my small town they had one a few years back, I spoke later on with a Baptist pastor who was involved in it to stand down front for those who come forward. His instructions was, for instant, if the person was of Roman Catholic family, don't council them, but send them to the Roman Church councilor, if that persons family was Methodist, send them to the Methodist councilor, and so on.

I might add, I told this pastor he should not have took part in this and why, he disagreed with me. About 1 year later he came to me and said, "Brother Jerry you were right." That was back in the early 90's or late 80's. Since them we have had many of our Baptist brethren cave in and joined in with such things.

[John81]

Any real revival, whether local, national or otherwise has to be brought about by the Holy Ghost.

What many call revivals and evangalistic outreaches today are man-made and driven by mens desires using their own "wisdom". These tend to be ecumenical operations which most often means the Gospel is watered down or even virtually left out.

[jchahl]

I wouldn't completely dismiss the chances of a nationwide revival. Who knows? Look at what happened after the terror attacks in 2001. People were open to the gospel for awhile, but the effect wore off pretty quickly. Now imagine if there was a prolonged war within our borders, or if there was a major round of terror attacks in our country. If it happens, and we jump on the opportunity, God could cause a huge revival in America.

I like to hope that something could happen without a tragedy first, though.

[JerryNumbers]

When something bad happens, many will do lip service for Christ, even make some fantastic vows, them they soon fall to the way side with all forgotten.

I've seen people who were near death promise God, if only you will get me back to health I will serve you the rest of my life never missing church again, but when their health comes back quickly drop God as if they were holding a hot horse shoe in their hands. Most of them, if you ask them about it will tell you must have had dream, I would never promise nothing like that.

[Hambone]

Let's see. We've kicked God out of our schools. We've kicked God out of our government. We've allowed secularism to overtake our nation. No. I don't see a revival in the near future for the United States. We are no longer a Christian Nation. We currently have a president who is more sympathetic to Hamas than Israel. Christians have become lazy, lukewarm. We elected a president who supports abortion on demand.
While I don't agree with Billy Graham or his son, Frank, I do agree with Frank's assessment of 9-11 when someone asked,"How could God allow something like this happen the us?" Well, we've removed God from every facet of our lives. We've kicked him out of our nation. He's not here to protect us.
The Bible says "IF MY PEOPLE" will turn from their wicked way, God will heal their land. "His people" are sitting on their duffs. They don't care what happens politically in this nation. I have talked to SO MANY IFBs that didn't vote! How do they expect God to bless our land if they don't take an active part in our land? I know many IFBs don't believe in the saying,"God helps those who help themselves,"but I do. God won't bless you with a job if you don't go and try to get a job. God won't bless our churches with converts if our churches don't actively go soul winning. God won't bless our country as long as IFBs and other Christians remain passively by as the secularists increase their activities.
The United States is no longer the nation sending out the most missionaries for the cause of Christ. The US missionwork, yes, exceeds anyone; but, Christian missionaries are sent out from South Korea at a much higher rate than the "Christian" United States.
Again, no. I don't see it. Things will become eponentially worse for Christians in the US. The coming possible depression is the last chance, IMHO, for the US to turn back to God. The only problem is many "professing" Christians have turned to blaming God for our woes as a nation instead of drawing closer to God.

[JerryNumbers]

8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Psalms 118:8 (KJV)

Why trust a man to change things, isn't that exactly what your doing? Trusting in a vote to fix spiritual problems.

Man has been in charge of this nation since it started, it has done nothing but went down hill and away from God since day one.

Our resources ought to be behind Jesus, all of them, He is the answer to every problem, but he needs our whole heart, our whole trust.

In this land there are Christians who are trusting Jesus with their whole heart, but you don't read about them in the paper nor see them on the TV screens. For they're out there going about the work which God has given them to do, not sharing their faith will a man to fix the problems that are before them.

But blaming it on those who don't vote, who don't put their faith in man to fix the problems in this world is an easy way to put the blame on someone else's back.

[John81]

Good points Jerry. Sometimes when reading Sword of the Lord I consider the fact that if it were not for hearing of some of the pastors in that paper I would likely never hear of them otherwise. Those who are actually about the Lords work are not the ones you see on TV or in daily newspapers or magazines and they are not the ones interviewed by the news media.

Those doing the work of God are purposefully kept out of the media.

[Hambone]

8 It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man.

Psalms 118:8 (KJV)

Why trust a man to change things, isn't that exactly what your doing? Trusting in a vote to fix spiritual problems.

Man has been in charge of this nation since it started, it has done nothing but went down hill and away from God since day one.

Our resources ought to be behind Jesus, all of them, He is the answer to every problem, but he needs our whole heart, our whole trust.

In this land there are Christians who are trusting Jesus with their whole heart, but you don't read about them in the paper nor see them on the TV screens. For they're out there going about the work which God has given them to do, not sharing their faith will a man to fix the problems that are before them.

But blaming it on those who don't vote, who don't put their faith in man to fix the problems in this world is an easy way to put the blame on someone else's back.

You can trust in Jesus until He returns. Jesus isn't going to pull a lever at a voting booth. It is that attitude, the attitude of sitting by and doing nothing, the attitude of Christians being passive in our nation, the Laodicean Church attitude of lukewarmness that is killing our nation. I agree. It has been going downhill. Everything man creates, designs, fails eventually. We can slow that process down by trusting in God, but by doing something, too. If you find a fellow Christian, or anyone for that matter, driven into a river and sinking fast in his/her vehicle, apparently unable to help themselves, what would you do? Stand on the riverbank and pray for God's helping hand? Trust that God will miraculously drain the river? Could He? Yes. Would He? Probably not, since you are standing there. It was God who was probably responsible for the fact that you are standing there on the riverbank. Maybe you should pray that God would give you strength and soundness of mind to help the person.
That is the same with the state of our nation. Instead of standing by watching our nation turn on God a little bit every day--did you ever think that God placed us here, in this country, with the ability to vote for a reason? Sure pray. Pray that God directs in your decision for who to vote for. Pray for that person. Don't stand by and let the world take over. They aren't passive. They have the attitude that Christians SHOULD have. DO SOMETHING!
Reminds of the story of the drowning person waiting for God to save him. A helicopter shows up. The man waves it away. A boat shows up. The man waves it away. The man drowns, gets to heaven and asks God,"Why did you let me drown?" God says,"I didn't. I allowed a helicopter to find you, and I allowed a boat to happen upon you. You turned them both away. I was going to send dolphins, but thought, what's the point?"

[John81]

Nothing wrong with voting, if one is truly casting votes for worthy candidates, but that's not the main avenue we Christians should be pursuing in order to change our nation.

Scripture is clear that if we desire change we must first allow real change to come about in our lives, followed by us being busy about the Lord's work. This entails witnessing and being salt and light in the world.

It's the Word of God that brings about real change, not the casting of a ballot. Where souls are converted to Christ, change for the better takes place.

[Hambone]

Nothing wrong with voting, if one is truly casting votes for worthy candidates, but that's not the main avenue we Christians should be pursuing in order to change our nation.

Scripture is clear that if we desire change we must first allow real change to come about in our lives, followed by us being busy about the Lord's work. This entails witnessing and being salt and light in the world.

It's the Word of God that brings about real change, not the casting of a ballot. Where souls are converted to Christ, change for the better takes place.

I absolutely agree with you. As long as we don't convert more to passive Christianity. You're right that a politician is not the answer. I think God, through Godly men, allowed our nation to have the representative republic that we have, so that Christians would have a voice. Thank God we don't live in a place like China, where missionaries I support have to allow services to take place in a location without them for several weeks to make sure it's not a "sting" operation by the government.
We are so blessed in this country, and apparently as you can see, it irks me to no end that Christians have become complacent. Any future persecution on Christians by this country's government will be a result of Christians (who would have a very large voice in their government if they would use it) being complacent--and not only in politics, I might add.

[Guest Guest]

I pray for revival in the U.S. and I don't pray for anything I don't believe He can provide and desires to provide. The question I ask are we a separated from the world people and on our knee's praying for His Revival? He will provide but we must humble seek His ways and not ours! I'm as quilty as the next person so please pray for me and I'll pray for you to seek only His ways then maybe the Lord will allow Revival in this Nation. Praying-pixiedust

[John81]

I absolutely agree with you. As long as we don't convert more to passive Christianity. You're right that a politician is not the answer. I think God, through Godly men, allowed our nation to have the representative republic that we have, so that Christians would have a voice. Thank God we don't live in a place like China, where missionaries I support have to allow services to take place in a location without them for several weeks to make sure it's not a "sting" operation by the government.
We are so blessed in this country, and apparently as you can see, it irks me to no end that Christians have become complacent. Any future persecution on Christians by this country's government will be a result of Christians (who would have a very large voice in their government if they would use it) being complacent--and not only in politics, I might add.

There is no doubt Scripture commands us (Christians) to occupy until He returns; we are to be the salt and light. American Christians once ran most of this country. Along the way many Christians became complacent, thinking things would keep going good, and they became slack in their faith and duty (we see examples of this throughout the Old Testament in Israel). The complacency of so many Christians coupled with the infiltration of ungodly doctrines and beliefs into various churches seriously eroded America.

If we don't do our part, who is left to do it?