Acts 24:6-8 Inspired Scripture? or the NIV can't count right

[Calvary]

John, no one said that the originals never existed.

What is your point?

How many mss have you ever compared? Have you ever seen B or Aleph and if you did could you read them?

Have you ever collated any mss?

C'mon brother, scholarship onlyism is a man made doctrine that places the common faith at the mercy of an elite class of psuedo scholarship, like yours, and then suggests that unless I have X amount of years studying Koine Greek, I am unqualified to comment on mss evidences. :puzzled:

You can rest assured that I am extremely well aquainted with the issues at hand my friend.

God never preserved his words through scholarship, he did it through the universal priesthood of common believers.

Your suggestion at the end of your comment betrays your trust in the Biblical view of preservation and seems to suggest that good Godly men have in fact discovered the original text.

If it was so simple we wouldn't be going around and around now would we?

The heretical readings of both B and Aleph are simply so vast that they are to be disqualified as having any bearing on the true text. The common faith soundly rejected both mss and unfortunatley men like yourself have been trying to lend credence to them ever since. They are both of them grossly edited to fit the heresies of gnostics and have profound eveidence of having been tampered with.

John, I suggest thatb you get on line and find a copy of the Revision Revised by the Dean John Burgon. I would guess that your alma mater never placed that book on the suggested reading list.

Or perhaps the Secret Spanking of Wescott and Hort for further reading.

If you have read them, then I am amazed at the lack of shame you have to suggest in public that B and Aleph are representative of the true text when there are too many of us that know better.

God bless,

Calvary

[Jerry]

Well for your information Scholars have gotten back to the original wording in many words and phrases.

? Stick with the preserved manuscripts and you don't need to GUESS whether you have the original wording or not. "Have gotten back to the original wording" - how do they know? If they think it was lost along the way, and they reject the TR, then they have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to determine whether they have gotten back to the original wording or not. That is part of the reason they keep modifying the NU text and keep making more Bible versions - because they are still trying to figure out what they want the Bible to say...

[Will]

They are both of them grossly edited to fit the heresies of gnostics and have profound eveidence of having been tampered with.
God bless,

Calvary

How do you know they were edited?

[John the Baptist]

John, no one said that the originals never existed.

What is your point?

How many mss have you ever compared? Have you ever seen B or Aleph and if you did could you read them?

Have you ever collated any mss?

C'mon brother, scholarship onlyism is a man made doctrine that places the common faith at the mercy of an elite class of psuedo scholarship, like yours, and then suggests that unless I have X amount of years studying Koine Greek, I am unqualified to comment on mss evidences. :puzzled:

You can rest assured that I am extremely well aquainted with the issues at hand my friend.

God never preserved his words through scholarship, he did it through the universal priesthood of common believers.

Your suggestion at the end of your comment betrays your trust in the Biblical view of preservation and seems to suggest that good Godly men have in fact discovered the original text.

If it was so simple we wouldn't be going around and around now would we?

The heretical readings of both B and Aleph are simply so vast that they are to be disqualified as having any bearing on the true text. The common faith soundly rejected both mss and unfortunatley men like yourself have been trying to lend credence to them ever since. They are both of them grossly edited to fit the heresies of gnostics and have profound eveidence of having been tampered with.

John, I suggest thatb you get on line and find a copy of the Revision Revised by the Dean John Burgon. I would guess that your alma mater never placed that book on the suggested reading list.

Or perhaps the Secret Spanking of Wescott and Hort for further reading.

If you have read them, then I am amazed at the lack of shame you have to suggest in public that B and Aleph are representative of the true text when there are too many of us that know better.

God bless,

Calvary

You don't even understand preservation or you would not say these things. Any one who does not agree with KJV Only is a hetertic according to the KJV only people. You will answer to God for this. You attack peoples character becausethey do not agree withyou. Well I have a personal relatioonship with Jesus Christ and I am not a heretic. I will pray for you. Ignorance is Bliss.

[Calvary]

No one attacked your character, I simply pointed out to you the unteneable position you have placed yourself in by cowering before scholarship instead of the Lord.

You stated that B and Aleph are examples of the originals and I call you to task on that seriously and fallacious statement.

Your naturalistic tendencies have led you astray.

I will give no account for repremanding heresy, but I suspect that you will give an account for sowing seeds of doubt in the hearts of believers by standing in your pulpit and telling Christians, "A better translation would have been"...

I assure you John, I have a very real grasp of providential preservation. It is you who seems to have no grasp of ecclesiastical history, or you yourself might be more prone to deny the foul roots of rationalism in your ministry and instead teach your people that there is in fact a God who is mighty enough to keep His promises.

Your god lost His word, then found liberal, modernistic scholars to rebuild a reasonable fascimile of what might be, could be and with just enough luck be the word(s) of God. Yet, still remaion doubtful as to the authenticity of said word(s) as they continue to search for variants and argue amongst themsleves, exalting their years of Greek over the common believer.

My God on the other hand was mighty to not only save my soul, He easily and with great assuredness has perserved for His church the word(s) which he breathed and gave unto the saints of old.


God bless,

Calvary

PS

I am still waiting for those verses that show conclusively that God has indeed promised to maintain for us fallible and error ridden scriptures.

I will no doubt continue to wait.