Jesus Christ is the only Begotten Son of God

[John the Baptist]

?????????? (monogenes) means according to Thayer single of its kind, used of sons and daughters in relation to their parents. So in Scripture "to be one's only son or daughter." In John 3:16, , 18, 1john 4:9. It refers to Jesus being the Son of God in which sense He has no brothers or sisters, though in his humanity He had half brothers and sisters. Jesus is the one and only Son of God, this speaks of His deity.

God Bless
John

[Jerry]

Thayer was a Unitarian who did not believe that Jesus Christ was God manifest in the flesh.

P.S. Why did you not add this to the other recent thread about this?

[John the Baptist]

Thayer was a Unitarian who did not believe that Jesus Christ was God manifest in the flesh.

P.S. Why did you not add this to the other recent thread about this?

True Thayer was a unitarian, but he was a scholar and was honest about what ?????????? means. Really Thayer was the translater and revisor of Grimm's Wilke's Clavis Novi Testamenti The definition I shared from Thayer was really Wilke's definition, Which Thayer in his editor notes in brackets called "The orthodox interpretation."

The reason I did not add this to the other thread is because I just saw the other thread today and it was locked.

God Bless
John

[Jerry]

Sorry, didn't realize that.

[Guest Guest]

True Thayer was a unitarian, but he was a scholar

Yup. That there is yer problem in a nutshell.

Wil

[John the Baptist]

Yup. That there is yer problem in a nutshell.

Wil

There are many conservative Bible believing Schoars and students that hold this view. Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God, in the sense of not having any siblings conerning His
deity. He is God's Only Son in that sense. I have no problem with this truth.

This is what Barnes Notes say:Only-begotten - "This term is never applied by John to any but Jesus Christ. It is applied by him five times to the Saviour, Joh_1:14, Joh_1:18; Joh_3:16, Joh_3:18; 1Jo_4:9. It means literally an only child. Then, as an only child is especially dear to a parent, it means one that is especially beloved. Compare Gen_22:2, Gen_22:12, Gen_22:16; Jer_6:26; Zec_12:10. On both these accounts it is bestowed on the Saviour.
1. As he was eminently the Son of God, sustaining a special relation to Him in His divine nature, exalted above all human beings and angels, and thus worthy to be called, by way of eminence, His only Son. Saints are called His ?sons? or children, because they are born of His Spirit, or are like Him; but the Lord Jesus is exalted far above all, and deserves eminently to be called His only-begotten Son.
2. He was especially dear to God, and therefore this appellation, implying tender affection, is bestowed upon him."

"We beheld his glory - This refers to the transfiguration, at which John was present, in company with Peter and James.
The glory as of the only begotten - That is, such a glory as became, or was proper to, the Son of God; for thus the particle ??? should be here understood. There is also here an allusion to the manifestations of God above the ark in the tabernacle: see Exo_25:22; Num_7:89; and this connects itself with the first clause, he tabernacled, or fixed his tent among us. While God dwelt in the tabernacle, among the Jews, the priests saw his glory; and while Jesus dwelt among men his glory was manifested in his gracious words and miraculous acts." (Adam Clarke)

[Guest Guest]

There are many conservative Bible believing Schoars and students that hold this view. Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God, in the sense of not having any siblings conerning His
deity. He is God's Only Son in that sense. I have no problem with this truth.

Only begotten simply means that Jesus had a physical body specially prepared for him by God. Though it was flesh and blood like ours it was different from any other body. It was the only one like it. This body was conceived by the Holy Ghost in Mary so Jesus was the only begotten Son of God in that aspect.


Hebrews 10:5- Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said , Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

Acts 20:28 -Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

Anyways, I wasn't disagreeing with what you were saying but just that you need to be wary of apostate scholars like Thayer.

Wil

[Guest Guest]

It refers to Jesus being the Son of God in which sense He has no brothers or sisters' date=' though in his humanity He had half brothers and sisters.[/quote']

Sorry, but you are mistaken, Christ had no brothers or sisters through his humanity either.



Yes

[Guest Guest]

Sorry, but you are mistaken, Christ had no brothers or sisters through his humanity either.

umm... Explain what you mean by that...

[Jerry]

He is Catholic - simply parroting the Catholic heresies, which contradict the Bible over and over.

Matthew 13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

Galatians 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

Mark 6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.

Jesus was Mary's firstborn son, not her only son.

[Guest Guest]

He is Catholic - simply parroting the Catholic heresies, which contradict the Bible over and over.

It would seem that way wouldn't it, still, I will let him make a few more posts before I draw any definate conclusions. :wink

[Jerry]

He has been hitting the boards and tackling a lot of threads. Based on all his posting, it is obvious he is a typical Catholic, just posting their dogma.

[Guest Guest]

He has been hitting the boards and tackling a lot of threads. Based on all his posting' date=' it is obvious he is a typical Catholic, just posting their dogma.[/quote']

If you are open for discussion, I would be more than happy to discuss with you. If you are going to ignore me, however then I see no point in arguing. I will listen to what you say as well.

[Jerry]

We are open to listening to Catholic doctrine - this is a Baptist message board. If you are coming here to learn, we would love to answer your sincere questions - but we are not a place for you to teach Catholicism.

[Guest Guest]

We are open to listening to Catholic doctrine - this is a Baptist message board. If you are coming here to learn' date=' we would love to answer your sincere questions - but we are not a place for you to teach Catholicism.[/quote']

The Bible uses brothers and sisters in a wide sense, not always referring to actual brothers and sisters, in fact there is no word for cousin in Aramaic. It is also believed by some (No one knows for sure whether its true) that St. Joseph was married earlier and had children from his other marriage. We also know that St. Joseph was much older than St. Mary as he was not present at the Crucifixion.