Cain and Abel

[Guest Guest]

MY point was that someone disagreeing with Jerry or anyone else should post scripture; I'm not discussing the Gap here, though I have more than ample evidence to support it.

[Anon]

Has anyone here ever heard the illustration that you can prove suicide in the Bible?

"And Judas went out and hanged himself"

And in another passage...

"Go thou and do likewise."


If you have proof of the Gap Theory, that's the kind of proof you have.

[Guest Guest]

Has anyone here ever heard the illustration that you can prove suicide in the Bible?

"And Judas went out and hanged himself"

And in another passage...

"Go thou and do likewise."


If you have proof of the Gap Theory, that's the kind of proof you have.

1) Bombastic

2) Unfounded

3) Unnecessary

Not to mention against my specific explanation and request. I asked that the subject be dropped.

[qwerty guy]

I never studied this out so I can't say definitively one way or the other' date=' but Jerry asked for scriptual references and I haven't seen anything forthcoming. Only "you're wrong". Based on the evidence I see so far, I'd have to say I side with Jerry. His arguement has been a tad bit more informative and concise.[/quote']


So does no one read what people post? I was asked a question, that is off topic, so I answered it simply and let me just point out here what I said:
I'm sure I'm going to get a TON of comments on that, so like I said, if anyone wants to see the biblical verses to support anything said, I'll be happy to PM the info

What's happening? I'm getting comments. What's not happening? People want to hijack the thread off topic instead of being honest that they want the info.

This points out that 1) you don't respect the original poster who started a thread not on that topic
2) You don't actually read what people say
3) you're more interest in a public show then private learning.

Here's a hint. I've already put the info on the forums, you can search for it. SO yea, I stick by what I say. Jerry is wrong. He's also never interested in even considering that, and it's obvious he doesn't take what people say seriously or he wouldn't miss information in their posts. He wants the data, that's great, happy to send it. I'll send it to anyone who wants it. But to argue with him? lol, half the book of proverbs teaches me not to bother.

Sorry you all seemed to get upset but you won't see an edit marker in my post, I was quite clear. Not to mention, the entire post was only to answer a question, I even stated that it's what I believe. I did all possible to answer a question someone asked, yet keep the thread on topic. Good job!

[Jerry]

1) I don't want any more pms from you - so I am certainly not going to request one.

2) If you post statements publicly, it is not unreasonable to expect you to post answers or a Biblical defense of your statements publicly.

3) Who cares if a thread goes slightly offtopic or on a temporary rabbit trail? I have been a member of these boards (and the one prior to this one) since the beginning (basically six or seven years) and it does not really matter.

4) Why not grow up and can the attitude and continual unChristlike remarks. It doesn't matter if you like me or agree with me, but at least be mature enough to stop posting in a hateful or continually inconsiderate manner.

Jerry is wrong. He's also never interested in even considering that

Funny how you whine and complain when I made a statement without giving the verses to back it up - yet you will keep offensively posting about how wrong I am and not giving a Biblical defense for your position. Prove me wrong, and if I can see your conclusion in the Bible I will accept it. I can't accept a conclusion that has nothing to back it up except your opinions or preferences.

[qwerty guy]

I proved ya wrong about 6 months ago in the sons of God thread. Look it up. All the bible you can handle. Or, would you like me to copy paste it into this thread? Thanks for setting the ground rules... I'm going to keep it very well in mind

[Anon]

Qwerty, I like ya and all, but you are being pretty rough on Jerry. Jerry knows his Bible really well. I rarely disagree with him, and when I do, I make sure I know what I'm talking about, and then disagree respectfully.

[John81]

I proved ya wrong about 6 months ago in the sons of God thread. Look it up. All the bible you can handle. Or' date=' would you like me to copy paste it into this thread? Thanks for setting the ground rules... I'm going to keep it very well in mind[/quote']

Speaking only for myself, it would be helpful to have information posted right in the thread at hand, or at least links directly to the information.

When I use the search feature here I'm amazed if I manage to find anything at all. Probably close to 99% of my searches fail to turn up what I'm looking for.

[qwerty guy]

Qwerty' date=' I like ya and all, but you are being pretty rough on Jerry. Jerry knows his Bible really well. I rarely disagree with him, and when I do, I make sure I know what I'm talking about, and then disagree respectfully.[/quote']

I agree, he really does know his bible very well. I also rarely disagree with him. And yes, when I do, I know what I'm talking about. Now, as to the question of respect, when I have disagreed with him, I have been shocked at how flippent the responses become, the errors in quotes, and the total disregard for other people that has been returned. I've learned that there is no point, and so obviously, I'm not going to bother. That doesn't mean I will say he's right though. He wants bible, he's gotten it before. He wants it again? I can copy paste. He wants a real discussion, I can send all the data to anyone who wants it, and they can make up their own mind. But disagree in a thread that has nothing to do with it? lol, from the PMs I've gotten in the past, most people here know that's futile. I'm not being anti-christian, I don't hate anyone, and I like the straw man way that was said, it's a good solid "who me?" attack used by the best of liberal politicians. I'm just being honest, and well, wise people don't mind correction, I think I've heard that before.

Oh, and trust me, I tried to handle this private, so before anyone says this should be posted in a thread, tried to avoid it.

[qwerty guy]

Speaking only for myself' date=' it would be helpful to have information posted right in the thread at hand, or at least links directly to the information. [/quote']

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18393&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=12
You'll find my arguments on the sons of God issue

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when angels where created

[John81]

Thank you qwerty! :thumb