OSAS : The Origin

[Behold]

 

Reader, 

1.) Within Christianity, there is Truth, and there is what isn't.
Both exist in Christianity as Light and Darkness.

For example a believer born again, can be "fallen from Grace".

Now...Regarding church doctrine and The Gospel, there is what Paul teaches and then there is everything else that must line up with it, for it to be "perfect".

So, in both cases, the "other stuff", that does not line up with Paul's Doctrine,  is not the Truth, and generally  comes from the Father of Lies.  Hebrews 13:9

Reader, 
God created Christianity, and Satan created everything else that tries to copy it or tries to ruin it, which is the same work.

The simple fact is.... the devil wants to lead everyone to hell... and he cant do that to a born again believer who is "one with God" already.... "In Christ".

So what does Satan try to do to the born again?
He goes back to "garden of eden" tactics, where he originally ruined the 1st  family of God.
How does He do it today?
He twists God's words and teaches them as deception, as before.. And by doing that = within Christianity, (often using deceived Christians).... most end up with broken faith, and become quite self righteous.

See, Satan can't keep you out of heaven if you are born again, but, he can ruin your relationship with God down here... simply by getting you into wrong belief, wrong doctrine.

This worst by-product of this, is to no longer believe that Jesus keeps you saved, and then you try to do it for yourself
Thats Legalism on Steroids. Thats penultimate Self Righteousness.
Because = that broken faith denies the Cross, rejects Gods Grace, and certifies you as a deceived believer, or what i call a : self saver.

2.) When did Satan bring wrong theology and wrong understanding into the Church, so that many end up with broken faith.?

= OSAS, is the "modern version" nomenclature regarding this situation.

It actually originated as a "religious Jews" personal attack against the Apostle Paul's Teaching , regarding "The Gospel of the Grace of God".

These Legalistic Jews, who are still in Israel, who still reject their messiah till this very day..., originally rejected Paul's teaching on the GRACE of God about 2000 yrs ago.
And its still being rejected by Religious Legalists, by Cult members, and on "christian" Forums and from "christian" pulpits, as millions are taught how to reject God's Grace by their Church or Temple... and by their Pope or by their Minister, Pastor, Bishop, or similar "head" of their local assembly or cult group.
On Some Forums the Mods themselves will try to lead you out of God's Grace and into Legalism. =  Into their ""Gospel of Works and self effort.""
They'll try to cover up the Cross with Law and Commandment keeping. And water Baptism, and "confessing sin".

Now...

2000 yrs ago, the Religious Jews, led of the devil.... heard Paul's teaching and said.....>"you are teaching that we are to sin, so that Grace will come".

Today this is known as "osas" and "License to sin"... and "cheap grace".

Reader.... Paul told them..... = "Jesus is not only your Messiah, He is also your Eternal Sin Bearer, because Christ The Lord is the God sent Son whom God made to be all your Sin"".
And they lost their religious Jewish minds and still do till this very day, because they want to Keep Law and Commandments, instead of allowing Their Messiah to make them acceptable to God, based on HIS Cross. - alone.
And that is the only WAY to heaven. John 14:6

Paul said they "being ignorant of God's righteousness, go about trying to establish their own"...

Reader... = God accepts only what HE PROVIDED as our Eternal Salvation, = to save us and keep us saved.

A.) THE Cross of Christ.. The Blood Atonement... The New Covenant.

Religious people, believe otherwise. And they will tell you...>"if you believe that God does it all, and supplied it all and its  ""The GIFT of Salvation""", then you are teaching  """OSAS, and License to Sin".

And when that is taught, .. JUDE explains that this is a literal subversion of the True Gospel of the Grace of God.... Because real faith is being bastardized and besmurched and FLIPPED upside down, like this... = "If you believe the Gospel and teach it as God's ""Gift of Salvation"" and "Gift of Righteousness"...., you are teaching """"licentiousness".
You are teaching that Grace is LICENSE TO SIN.

See that?  That is how HERETICS try to get you to believe that GRACE is License. And that is the Devil's work using his "ministers of righteousness".. as they teach "a form of godliness but deny the power, thereof".  KJV.

In other words they teach SELF Righteousness, vs "the imputed righteousness of Christ".

3.) See what the Devil has done? 
He causes believers to stop believing that Christ is their All and All Salvation, by casting the idea upon it as.... to believe THAT, is to "believe that you have license to sin"...thus them trying to subvert THE  Correct understanding of God's Grace is now  twisted into.. "license to sin". "OSAS".
So, by denying that Jesus is our Salvation.....beginning to end... Satan and his MINISTERS.... then subvert it further by teaching that to believe God's Grace IS in fact The finished work of Christ on the Cross, (Which is Paul's Gospel).... If you believe it and teach it as "the Gift of Salvation"... ......then you are teaching that once you have this Eternal Salvation, you can never lose it.

And you can't, but the Heretics who deny the Cross, and misrepresent it, BELIEVE that salvation can be both EARNED and LOST.

The end result is, that once you are mind trapped by these people, then you will believe you can lose your Salvation.
And once you believe that, its because you do not trust in CHRIST anymore, and that is why you are doing this and keeping that, and confessing those, as that is how you are trying to STAY SAVED, ..when in fact....= only JESUS SAVES and Only Jesus can Keep you saved.

Salvation is "The Gift of Eternal life" and Eternal Life is not Temporary.

Being Born again, is the PROOF that you have Eternal life.

So, the "OSAS" concept which is the modern religious "bumper sticker"... is actually a 2000 yr old Religious JEW attack against The Cross of Christ which is a total rejection of "The Gospel of the Grace of God" that Jesus gave to Paul, as what Paul defines as "My Gospel" 3x in the NT. (KJV).

Its the Devil's REBRANDING and SUBVERTING of God's Grace as : "license to sin" and "osas".

Satan's ministers get people caught up in this by using their self righteousness against them, and once they become mind blinded this way, they can't hear anymore = anything that has to do with GRACE and the FREE Gift of Salvaiton, as to them, that true teaching : is "license to sin". and "osas".
See that Reader? That is a developed "STRONGHOLD" in the mind of a believer whose faith has been broken by Heretics.

Paul teaches this as "WHO has bewitched you, that you should NO LONGER obey the TRUTH".. (KJV- Galatians).

Jude teaches about this also.. and said that these hyper religious came into the local assemblies, and harmed them by teaching that if you believe that the Cross of Chirst is God's eternal offer of redemption, that forgives ALL your sin, then you are teaching that you can go and enjoy your sin.
= So that is a denial that Jesus is the one time "eternal sacrifice for your sin"...... In other words its to completely not understand what Christ has done for you through His BLOOD, DEATH, and Resurrection of Jesus.
Today we hear this "Im obsessed with OSAS".... out of the mouth's of religious lawkeepers and those who are "commandment obsessed" and even those who teach "enduring to the end".
You will find that these people on forums will obsessively talk about law and sin and confessing sin. They will talk about water baptism as Salvation, also... But what they never talk about is "the Preaching of the Cross"., and that is because they are ignorant of God's actual means of redemption.

Believers who are born again, but "fallen from Grace" will teach this subversion, because they have become "subverted within themselves" as Paul teaches in Titus 3. KJV

4.) So, what these people do to you, is they try to make you SEE God's Grace as "freedom to sin" and once they have your mind, you wont be able to trust in Christ to get you into heaven, and you'll believe that you have to do things to keep yourself saved.

Broken Faith is..to believe that you can lose your salvation.
And IF  you become that one, then your faith is broken, and the Devil has your mind, regarding your belief system.
You wont understand The Cross, and if you are born again, your entire Christianity becomes a BONDAGE to..."what you must DO".. "how you must perform".. and '"what you need to KEEP"<... So that by all your self effort..(self righteousness) . You will try to offer this self righteousness to God and HOPE that He'll take it and save you., and keep you saved.

See that? That is the Devil's #1 priority in your life, other than killing you and your family. He wants your faith completely ruined so that he can then use you like a hand puppet to teach his theology.

5.) Reader,
The Cross of Christ is a complete DENIAL that GOD Almighty will accept any self righteousness, or works, or water baptism, to forgive us, or keep us.

And a deceived believer says...
""""well, im confessing my sin again and again and again, because i dont understand that one verse in 1 John, and so, what i believe is that if keep doing that, God will keep forgiving me, but if i dont then...... HELL AWAITS".
Some even do it because they believe..>"well, when i sin, i lost my salvation, and once i confess, i get it back".. 

Reader .. Broken Salvation is also this... = "sin, confess, and repeat".... because some devil led heretic on a forum or in a pulpit, who probably isn't even born again, told you that this is what you can EXPECT and must DO... to stay saved.

So, the people who yell about "OSAS", are the very people who do not understand that = "God hath made Jesus to be SIN FOR US".

And they do not understand...>>"Jesus is the ONE.. TIME.. = ETERAL.. sacrifice for Sin".. 

So, what they do, is try to keep law commandments and they often falsely believe that water washed away their sin, and some of them are confessing sin to try to stay saved or to be re-saved and re-forgiven"... and others are trying to do "works of righteousness" to try to be saved and stay saved.
Reader are you "enduring to the end" to try to keep yourself saved?

A.) Trust in Christ, instead....

Now....See all that, that they BELIEVE in, = that they BELIEVE God will accept to accept them and keep them? And All of them obsess about OSAS and confessing sin..
Spot them, recognize them, and do not listen to what they teach, as they are dark lights.

Luke 11:35

And if you listen, you will notice what is not a part of their trying to be saved or stay saved, theology.
What is missing?

A.) The CROSS of Christ.

Its missing from their "how to stay saved" theology.... and it's missing because they are not saved, or they are "fallen from Grace' and so very deceived that they can't even talk about the Cross as God has provided it, as HIS Salvation.
They can only deny it as.... "license to sin" and "OSAS".

[Jerry]

If you are in any way, shape, or form teaching a true believer can be saved and lose it or fall away, then you are an utter heretic who does not understand the Gospel. The Bible DOES teach that salvation IS eternal, CANNOT ever be lost, that Jesus SAVES AND KEEPS His own ETERNALLY. Yes, some teach say a prayer and you are saved forever, even if you reject the Lord further down the road. That is not someone who lost their salvation, that is an example of someone who never got saved in the first place - they got a bit religious, a bit of head knowledge without true faith to back it up, then they turned away when things got hard (like the parable of the sower and seed teaches). They did not lose their salvation. Those who rejected the Lord or the things of God down the road (the Bible, true Christianity, true believers, etc. as a whole) were never saved to begin with.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

The solution is to keep preaching the truth - including repentance and faith - and not go to the opposite extreme and believe that every tare is an actual believer (despite what Jesus warned!), and therefore have to twist the Bible to fit a theology teaching true believers can be lost. Jesus saves and keeps His own, nothing can separate a true believer from His love, nothing can take them out of the Father's or His hands, nothing can unregenerate them, nor unadopt them, nor make their eternal life temporal life, nor take away the inheritance they have in Christ, nor the home He left to prepare for them. God's salvation is forever.

 

[MikeWatson1]

35 minutes ago, Jerry said:

If you are in any way, shape, or form teaching a true believer can be saved and lose it or fall away, then you are an utter heretic who does not understand the Gospel. The Bible DOES teach that salvation IS eternal, CANNOT ever be lost, that Jesus SAVES AND KEEPS His own ETERNALLY. Yes, some teach say a prayer and you are saved forever, even if you reject the Lord further down the road. That is not someone who lost their salvation, that is an example of someone who never got saved in the first place - they got a bit religious, a bit of head knowledge without true faith to back it up, then they turned away when things got hard (like the parable of the sower and seed teaches). They did not lose their salvation. Those who rejected the Lord or the things of God down the road (the Bible, true Christianity, true believers, etc. as a whole) were never saved to begin with.

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

The solution is to keep preaching the truth - including repentance and faith - and not go to the opposite extreme and believe that every tare is an actual believer (despite what Jesus warned!), and therefore have to twist the Bible to fit a theology teaching true believers can be lost. Jesus saves and keeps His own, nothing can separate a true believer from His love, nothing can take them out of the Father's or His hands, nothing can unregenerate them, nor unadopt them, nor make their eternal life temporal life, nor take away the inheritance they have in Christ, nor the home He left to prepare for them. God's salvation is forever.

 

There are those of course who never were saved in the first place, as false professors..but our behaviour isn't connected to eternal salvation. Our once believing on the Lord Jesus Christ is.

Since we have the Holy Spirit indwelling at that point .. then the Holy Spirit is going to discipline us when we sin. So then it is unlikely we would completely deny the faith.

But it is not IMPOSSIBLE .  A believer, saved, indwelled can still commit any kind of sin (barring blasphemy..seeing that's basically rejecting salvation to begin with).

So you gotta be careful with the never saved to begin with line. You can't see in to the persons soul to see if God has indwelled it. 

[Jerry]

21 minutes ago, MikeWatson1 said:

There are those of course who never were saved in the first place, as false professors..but our behaviour isn't connected to eternal salvation.

We don’t earn our way to heaven by our behaviour. You are right. BUT if someone rejects God down the road, that is not an issue of bad behaviour or backsliding, that is proof the faith was never from the heart, never real in the first place.

Matthew 13:5-6
Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

Luke 8:6
And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.

Matthew 13:21
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Luke 8:13
They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

[MikeWatson1]

6 hours ago, Jerry said:

We don’t earn our way to heaven by our behaviour. You are right. BUT if someone rejects God down the road, that is not an issue of bad behaviour or backsliding, that is proof the faith was never from the heart, never real in the first place.

Matthew 13:5-6
Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth: And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.

Luke 8:6
And some fell upon a rock; and as soon as it was sprung up, it withered away, because it lacked moisture.

Matthew 13:21
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Luke 8:13
They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

True true. I guess the question is how do you tell whether it is just getting caught up in sin or never saved in the first place?  Guess there would be no fruit at all.

Edited March 14 by MikeWatson1

[Jerry]

This is my opinion and my personal experience talking with others - but for all my experience and all that others have expressed to me, a backslider is ashamed or embarassed to talk about Jesus, etc. because they are not doing right. They typically do not renounce God, the Bible, Christianity, reject the doctrines they previously embraced. To reject what you once professed is what is referred to as apostasy. A backslider is not an apostate, and an apostate was never saved in the first place - despite how fervent and religious they might have seemed to others at some point in the past.

Edited March 15 by Jerry
Clarified a sentence

[John Young]

Romans 5:18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

1 Peter 1:23 being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

1 Peter 3:4 but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

 

[heartstrings]

^{John 5:24} Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

[Joe Chandler]

God Himself could not help Cain nor talk him out of his works based salvation. Neither can we, as Abel, persuade such on one. We are accepted and he is rejected.

Hebrews 10:28-29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

[BrotherTony]

12 minutes ago, Joe Chandler said:

God Himself could not help Cain nor talk him out of his works based salvation. Neither can we, as Abel, persuade such on one. We are accepted and he is rejected.

Hebrews 10:28-29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

So, what do you consider a "work?" Is the decision to believe and accept the Son of God, Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior a "work?" Just trying to get some clarification so that we know whether the beliefs of Calvin and Spurgeon are being espoused here.