I’m starting to clap in church sometimes…

[BrotherTony]

14 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

I read the whole thing, thank you. 

Thus the suggestion to REread it. 

No. And, no, it wasn't implied that ALL clapping is to sensual music.

Nobody stated that this was stated. Yes, there was a differentiation between the two...I just pointed out that it wasn't antiscriputral to clap as a form of affirmation during a sermon or a song. Nor is it unscriptural to clap during a song. Jerry is the one that implied the music was sensual....I stated not all music/clapping was to sensual music. 

That was simply how you chose to take it. Yes, his personal preferences were clearly stated, as were yours...but you added to it by trying to  imply he was demanding everyone accept what he says. You know, where you asked if he was the Holy Spirit?

Yes, I did imply that he's trying to play the part of the Holy Spirit...I haven't denied it...He does say that we should ...how did he put it...worship according to the Scriptures...seemed clear to me that he didn't think clapping was spiritual or acceptable for himself or anyone else.

So what if he believes it's inappropriate to clap for preaching? Does that REALLY matter to you? Is it going to stop you from serving the Lord? Do you really think you have to right to basically tell someone they are trying to impose their beliefs on someone because they express their opinion?

It doesn't come across as just his opinion. 

  And then you turn around and state your opinion and want everyone to accept your right to do so.

Now who's putting words in whose mouth? That's not what I said, nor did I imply such. 

Isn't that just a little double minded? (and, no, I'm not looking for a response)

Sorry, but you've gotten one, with all due respect.

14 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

You were not strong in your response, you were rude. There is a difference.

Being direct IS NOT being rude...must be a regional thing. I've always been direct, and I'll continue to be so.

  I find it interesting that you can be "strong" in your response, but Jerry's trying to be the Holy Spirit in his. And so then you attack me by implying I'm biased

I believe it was an honest observation, carefully reached by our conversations.

...it's hilarious that when someone is reproved about something they begin to say things like "you favor that one over me...

Again, that isn't what I said....I never implied it was a bias towards me...there are others who have had disagreements with Jerry, and nothing has been said. 

" Nice. And, btw, I never said you had anything against Jerry.

I never stated you did. 

You are not privy to every conversation, so your assumption that it SEEMS that he gets away with stuff is simply that: an assumption. And if you know that you're not the "only one who has noticed this," that must mean you've discussed it with others...the Bible calls that gossip. You said JMHO, so maybe you don't "know" it. If it's simply an assumption, I apologize. But if you've discussed it with anyone, you're in the wrong.

I didn't approach anyone, but I've had several come to me by email, etc. I don't have to be "privy to every conversation" to have feedback given to me. I do know people who are friends with people here who contact me. That's not a sin...nor is it a sin to try to give them spriritual guidance and advice, contrary to YOUR opinion. It's NOT called gossip unless you feel that you've got some inner truth that others don't.

14 minutes ago, HappyChristian said:

I'm not on anyone's side. Accusing me of such/implying such is simply an attempt to deflect.

LuAnne, with all due respect, I don't deflect, and I don't often back down from accusations. 

Just stop. I could continue on, but I said I didn't want any argument about it. Did you read that part? Either you didn't or you chose to ignore it.

I don't ignore anything, my friend. Nor do I usually miss anything. 

 

 

 

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