Covid Thread (Covid topics are merged in here)

[Baptistsenior]

39 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

More than 99.99% of people fully vaccinated against Covid-19 have not had a breakthrough case resulting in hospitalization or death, according to the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The data highlights what leading health experts across the country have highlighted for months: Covid-19 vaccines are very effective at preventing serious illness and death from Covid-19 and are the country’s best shot at slowing the pandemic down and avoiding further suffering.

Divide those severe breakthrough cases by the total fully vaccinated population for the result: less than 0.004% of fully vaccinated people had a breakthrough case that led to hospitalization and less than 0.001% of fully vaccinated people died from a breakthrough Covid-19 case.

Most of the breakthrough cases – about 74% – occurred among adults 65 or older.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/health/fully-vaccinated-people-breakthrough-hospitalization-death/index.html

This vaccine is brand new, and although it may or may not be cutting down the chances of people getting the virus etc, nobody knows for how long and what the long term effects of this vaccine is.  Just heard that during one of the delta outbreaks that 72% of the hospitilized patients had been fully vaccinated.  Any meds you put into your body adversely affect you, and this vaccine goes way beyond medicine 

47 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

It's possible that's true, but highly unlikely. Besides, not all people who cough, as I do because of COPD and asthma, and sneeze like my wife and I do because of seasonal allergies, have covid, nor carry the virus. We have to face facts...most people are living in fear of something that PROBABLY won't kill them. It may make them uncomfortable for a while like a cold or flu do...but, that's about it.

And again...Government manipulated statistics from fellow left-winged hacks like CNN. Typical. I'll keep repeating 99.7% recovery rate, inflated death #'s allegedly from "Covid" when most just have "Covid" as contributing factor with the underlying conditions as primary. Keep trying to instill fear in people, BB...you're not very good at it, but, keep trying!

One cannot get this virus unless they have been around an infected person who coughed, sneezed or spit on or around them for more than 15 minutes.  I have been back at church for over a year with hundreds of unmasked, unvaccinated people and no outbreaks.  Real life proves the fearmongers are wrong.  

[BrotherTony]

13 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

This vaccine is brand new, and although it may or may not be cutting down the chances of people getting the virus etc, nobody knows for how long and what the long term effects of this vaccine is.  Just heard that during one of the delta outbreaks that 72% of the hospitilized patients had been fully vaccinated.  Any meds you put into your body adversely affect you, and this vaccine goes way beyond medicine 

One cannot get this virus unless they have been around an infected person who coughed, sneezed or spit on or around them for more than 15 minutes.  I have been back at church for over a year with hundreds of unmasked, unvaccinated people and no outbreaks.  Real life proves the fearmongers are wrong.  

The coughing, sneezing or spitting are not necessary components in contracting this virus. Someone can contract it just by being in the same enclosed space with an infected person for 15 minutes or more. I know many doctors, have many nephews and nieces who are NPs or nurses. They say  that yes, you can contract it through being around someone who's infected who has coughed, sneezed or spit, but you can also contract it the same way I mentioned. I have been around people who've done these things, and I've been tested several times...every time with the result of negative.

[SureWord]

So I finally know of someone close to me that got the Fauci virus. My sister. They gave her an antibiotic and she spent two days in bed with what amounted to a sinus infection. 

As far as my mother, she is back home. One doctor admitted the blood clots could had come from the vaccine especially since they did not originate in her legs. The other doctor who was a shill for the government refused to admit it.

1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Go ahead, ban the maskless and/or unvaccinated and watch more businesses tank. The billionaires will thank you.

[BrotherTony]

4 minutes ago, SureWord said:

So I finally know of someone close to me that got the Fauci virus. My sister. They gave her an antibiotic and she spent two days in bed with what amounted to a sinus infection. 

As far as my mother, she is back home. One doctor admitted the blood clots could had come from the vaccine especially since they did not originate in her legs. The other doctor who was a shill for the government refused to admit it.

Go ahead, ban the maskless and/or unvaccinated and watch more businesses tank. The billionaires will thank you.

That's one of the major goals of this "pandemic"....the continued transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy. It's been going on for ages, but has ramped up through this "pandemic." Shameful! 

1 hour ago, Bouncing Bill said:

BB, those people who don't let people in without masks can do without our business...I'm not worried about them. Thankfully, most of what I need doesn't come from a supermarket. We've been blessed to be able to live on a minimalist basis. I don't need a whole lot, and neither does my wife. Funny cartoon. I don't see anyone here saying the coronavirus is a hoax, so your post is more in the way of hyperbole on your part.

[Baptistsenior]

42 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

The coughing, sneezing or spitting are not necessary components in contracting this virus. Someone can contract it just by being in the same enclosed space with an infected person for 15 minutes or more. I know many doctors, have many nephews and nieces who are NPs or nurses. They say  that yes, you can contract it through being around someone who's infected who has coughed, sneezed or spit, but you can also contract it the same way I mentioned. I have been around people who've done these things, and I've been tested several times...every time with the result of negative.

Of course it's necessary , it isn't a bug that crawls or hangs in the air infinitely. It must be excreted though the nose or mouth just like any other covid virus and breathed in for a length of time  just like any other virus 

[BrotherTony]

Just now, Baptistsenior said:

Of course it's necessary , it isn't a bug that crawls or hangs in the air infinitely. It must be excreted though the nose or mouth just like any other covid virus and breathed in for a length of time  just like any other virus 

It ISN'T necessary. Natural respiration still expels vapor from the mouth and nose. 

https://study.com/academy/lesson/respiration-in-the-water-cycle.html

 

[Baptistsenior]

Not enough to infect someone unless they are on top of the infected person, otherwise everyoneone in the same family would catch it and they don't. Nobody breaths that hard

[BrotherTony]

2 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

Not enough to infect someone unless they are on top of the infected person, otherwise everyoneone in the same family would catch it and they don't. Nobody breaths that hard

Incorrect. Think you'd better consult a doctor or nurse about this. I'm related to several and know better.

[Baptistsenior]

21 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

Incorrect. Think you'd better consult a doctor or nurse about this. I'm related to several and know better.

In a tiny hospital cubicle surrounded by curtains it may very well be possible for anyone enclosed in there for 15 minutes to get enough of a viral load to infect them, but in normal conditions no. There may even be a case or two infected that way, but I doubt it The head of nursing at my church wouldn't even wear a mask at church

[BrotherTony]

Just now, Baptistsenior said:

In a tiny hospital cubicle surrounded by curtains it may very well be possible for anyone enclosed in there for 15 minutes to get enough of a viral load to infect them, but in normal conditions no. There may even be a case or two infected that way, but I doubt it The head of nursing at my church wouldn't even wear a mask at church

In a room 10x24 it is possible to contract the virus through ordinary respiration...at least that is the guidance given by local health officials in Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee,  and Georgia that I have spoken to. I have family in all of those states and have talked to health officials before making trips to these areas...I live in Tennessee. Most of the medical personel I know wear masks in the hospitals because it is mandated for healthcare workers to do so...but most of them will not wear them in church, restaurants, grocery or other shopping outlets. My own ear, nose and throat specialist and I have talked about this many times, and he stated several times that depending on the depth of ones respiration, it will affect how far a virus will travel and how long it can hang in the air. He should know since he deals with it every day.

[Baptistsenior]

8 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

In a room 10x24 it is possible to contract the virus through ordinary respiration...at least that is the guidance given by local health officials in Illinois, Indiana, Kentucky, Tennessee,  and Georgia that I have spoken to. I have family in all of those states and have talked to health officials before making trips to these areas...I live in Tennessee. Most of the medical personel I know wear masks in the hospitals because it is mandated for healthcare workers to do so...but most of them will not wear them in church, restaurants, grocery or other shopping outlets. My own ear, nose and throat specialist and I have talked about this many times, and he stated several times that depending on the depth of ones respiration, it will affect how far a virus will travel and how long it can hang in the air. He should know since he deals with it every day.

Let me know if you hear of any confirmed cases that was transmitted that way. Remember the health officials said we needed to disinfect our packages too lol

[BrotherTony]

1 minute ago, Baptistsenior said:

Let me know if you hear of any confirmed cases that was transmitted that way. Remember the health officials said we needed to disinfect our packages too lol

There are many who have, I am sure. It would be pretty hard to track them down, just as it would hard to track down and varify those you say got it through someone coughing, spitting or wheezing on them...UGH!

[Baptistsenior]

23 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

There are many who have, I am sure. It would be pretty hard to track them down, just as it would hard to track down and varify those you say got it through someone coughing, spitting or wheezing on them...UGH!

Well I know of many that got infected from coughers, sneezes, spitters, but none from breathers. I don't know any that got any virus that way anything is possible I suppose

[BrotherTony]

6 minutes ago, Baptistsenior said:

Well I know of many that got infected from coughers, sneezes, spitters, but none from breathers. I don't know any that got any virus that way anything is possible I suppose

How can you state "None from breathers."?. I know many who got it from being around people coughing, sneezing, spitting or wheezing as well...but that doesn't rule out ordinary respiration. To try and rule that out is just unrealistic! 

[Baptistsenior]

32 minutes ago, BrotherTony said:

How can you state "None from breathers."?. I know many who got it from being around people coughing, sneezing, spitting or wheezing as well...but that doesn't rule out ordinary respiration. To try and rule that out is just unrealistic! 

Doesn't rule it out, but there isn't any proof it happens either. Although I suppose if my husband had that fake asymptomatic stuff and I slept with him while he was snoring..........