How much for 2 or 3?

[heartstrings]

Mohammed- "how much for 2 or 3 ?(ram lambs)

Me- $245 for 2, $370 for 3

Mohammed- best I can do is $175 for 2

Me- sorry, no deal (figured that was the end of it) but then a few minutes later.....

Mohammed- If they're in good condition I could do $200, and can you deliver....? (about 10 miles away)

Me- $250 for 2 and $25 to deliver

Mohammed- man' best you're going to get is $190 for 2

( I stopped replying)

 

When I bought several tons of oats, corn, and hay from one farmer, I never tried to 'negotiate' the price. Same with the farmer I bought several tons of hay from 2 weeks ago, and then again on Tuesday. He stated his price and that was it. it's the same at the feed stores where I buy the sweet feed and mineral, same at the fertilizer company and the grass seed company. When I pay the electric bill for pumping the water to them, and pay for the medicines, wormers, fencing, diesel fuel for the tractor, fuel for the truck, etc etc, etc. You pay everyone what they ask for their stuff, but when it comes time to sell YOUR end product, you're expected to negotiate.  

Edited March 18, 2016 by heartstrings
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[Ronda]

Those people come from a culture where they haggle prices daily on everything (including groceries). I would be more concerned about what he's going to DO with the lambs!!! Stick to your price and I would be very very leery of delivering anything!  Sorry, but there are some very psycho sicko muslims.

 

[John81]

Their culture is one of dishonesty and scheming. They always think others are just like them so when you name a price they expect you are naming a way too high price knowing they will offer a too low price and you will both meet somewhere in between where you both think you came out okay.

I've dealt with a few many years ago and they were the same way.

[heartstrings]

Their culture has been around for a very long time.....

It is naught, it is naught, saith the buyer: but when he is gone his way, then he boasteth.-- Proverbs 20:14

[Rebecca]

Negotiating prices is pretty widespread among Americans as well. I first experienced this when I held a yard sale, I had painstakingly put stickers and prices on a bunch of stuff, and to the side had a "free" table with odds and ends. Everyone who stopped by tried negotiating, the ones who asked a fair price I let have for that amount, but otherwise I stuck to the sticker price and referred them to the free table if they wanted to argue about it. My younger sister experiences this when she sells some unwanted items on an online yard sale site, people just want to get that "good deal" and don't care that you're selling the stuff out of necessity in my case, or it's a person's livelihood. If you're not a physical store in the US, people will haggle for a good deal. I've seen it done at a farmers market that sold produce to raise money for a children's hospital! So, this haggling is not unique to certain countries.

[heartstrings]

With most people, you give them a price, they may counter-offer, you tell them yes or no and that is usually the end of it. A few will make audible protests. But most of these Middle Eastern guys don't like to give up.  

Edited March 18, 2016 by heartstrings

[Old-Pilgrim]

I've always thought of haggling that 'it's not very British'. But If I am selling something, I usually add a bit onto the advertised price, if the person doesn't haggle, I will give him/her the discount.But I won't go below the 'real price'.

There is an add on radio these days for a fair sized company basically saying you don't need to haggle, because we have good prices all the time. It is on the increase, I also think this is an effect of multicultural influences.

As someone might have said already, the problem is that people now a days assume that you have added on to the price, so they assume they will get it for less than advertised.

So they are assuming that if you think it is worth £40 then you will ask for £50.

Is what you can get fot it what its worth or is what its worth what its worth?

Edited March 19, 2016 by Old-Pilgrim

[John81]

Shopping for used cars is primarily built upon the concept of haggling. Used car dealers typically add between 500-1500 dollars to the asking price of their vehicles. Most buyers know this so they come in expecting the dealer to offer them a lower price to get them to buy the vehicle or to drop the price when they make a lower offer.

There is a used car dealership here now that advertises as placing the actual cost of their used cars on the vehicle, no haggling required.

I would prefer a set price rather than going through the time consuming game of each side trying to get a better deal for themselves while still feeling like they got what they wanted.

[Invicta]

7 hours ago, John81 said:

Shopping for used cars is primarily built upon the concept of haggling. Used car dealers typically add between 500-1500 dollars to the asking price of their vehicles. Most buyers know this so they come in expecting the dealer to offer them a lower price to get them to buy the vehicle or to drop the price when they make a lower offer.

There is a used car dealership here now that advertises as placing the actual cost of their used cars on the vehicle, no haggling required.

I would prefer a set price rather than going through the time consuming game of each side trying to get a better deal for themselves while still feeling like they got what they wanted.

That used to happen on new cars also, But in recent years manufacturers have lowered their prices compete with each so not much room to haggle. It happens with kitchens also.  I was looking for a new kitchen, I went to B & Q for a price, then went to Magnet and they said Who have you got a price from and what price have we got to beat.?" Some stores say "We will beat any price by 5%." others say 10%.  Others say "We will not be beaten on price."    When I bought our piano, I took our friend, who is an excellent pianist, with us.  He found one that he said was best in our price range and asked for the store owner, then asked him what the best price he would do it for?  When he gave a price my friend said "Don't buy it we will go to another store."  We went to one where the Manager was a musician in the church I went to at the time.  He gave us a price and our friend said "Don't buy it" so we went back to the first store and he gave us a price.  Again "Don't buy it"  went back to the other store and the manager said "I can't give you a price at present." A couple of days later he came round our house and said as he would get it delivered directly from the manufacturer, Yamaha, it would take a time to deliver. After a couple of months we inquired and were told it would be delivered directly from Japan and it had just arrived in the country at Milford Haven docks.   A week later we asked and were told it had gone astray, but a few days later it turned up. All this haggling was embarassing to us, but our friend is a Scot and they are not known for paying more than they have to.  There is a saying that someone who doesn't like spendng money "Throws his money around like a Scotsman with no arms."  

[Invicta]

Of course there are special offers in supermarkets, often 2 for the price of one.  My wife once bought 2 pizzas thinking the offer was 2 for 1, but was charged for 2.  When I looked at the offer it was 3 for 1.  We picked up another one and took it to customer services and got a refund for one.  One might think that if they do 2 for 1 once week they can do it all the time.  But it is not the supermarket that pays it is the supplier.  Tesco our largest retailer was the subject of a number of TV and radio progs over recent year.  One had a reporter who went undercover as a trainee buyer and the first thing he was taught was "Somebody else pays".  They said that all the special offers that you see on the end of the aisles are paid for by the suppliers and how much they demand for the spot.  L'Oreal once refused to supply the chain as they said that they had been overcharged by over £1,000,000.  

[Invicta]

I have a friend who was on holiday in Morocco and saw a rug he liked in a bazzar.  He asked how much it was and was told £500.  he replied "£50."   "£400"  "£50"  The bazzar owner said "I am supposed to come down and you go up."  "£50"  "£250"  "£50"  "£100" £50" at that the owner threw the rug at him and said "£50"

We were in Paris when our daughters were small and were at a place where there were a number of African traders with their goods spread on rugs one the ground.  One was selling toy birds that you wound up and they flew around.  We were watching and he came over and gave us a price in francs as the currency was then.  I shook my head and he gave us a lower price.  I said "No thank you."  he said "Anglais?" and rummaged in his bag and brought out a card which said £3.00.  I shook my head and he turned the card over and it said £1.50. I shook my head and at that point a couple of gendarmes walked into the square and all the traders had suddenly rolled up their blankets with their ware inside them and strolled around trying to look innocent. The gendarmes were smiling at that.

Edited March 19, 2016 by Invicta

[swathdiver]

The Hatians come to the yard sale tables and want to buy your old clothes, all of them for $2.  My wife now runs them off because they are mean, part of their game is to grab them all up and then try and negotiate, making a mess out of her yard sale.

When folks haggle with me over my wares, if we don't come to an agreement after the first, the price goes up and up.  I always pray on it and the Lord provides.