The Differences Between The Two Baptists Churches Independent And Dependent

[The Glory Land]

i believe if the church have the old and new Testament, rightly devided your in the right place. For the old Testament points you to the new. 

[John81]

i believe if the church have the old and new Testament, rightly devided your in the right place. For the old Testament points you to the new. 

What is meant by a "New Testament church" is that a church agrees with the teachings of Christ. It doesn't mean the OT is ignored or left out. Jesus, as well as His Apostles, often quoted from the OT. We are to rightly divide the whole Word of God. It's just that the church began under the New Testament, which is the New Covenant which Christians are under.

[The Glory Land]

What do you think about the Southern Baptist church, are they New Testament?

[John81]

What do you think about the Southern Baptist church, are they New Testament?

Some are, some are questionable, some probably aren't. While they may all be a part of the SBC, the individual churches vary a lot. Some are biblically conservative and sound, but there are also those who have gone rather liberal, with many in between.

[swathdiver]

What do you think about the Southern Baptist church, are they New Testament?

 

None of them are because they are under the authority of the Southern Baptist Convention and not Jesus Christ.  

 

Some are rock-n-roll, some mirror a typical IFB with sound teaching, some have women pastors and some have pastors who are openly not saved, they reject the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

[The Glory Land]

None of them are because they are under the authority of the Southern Baptist Convention and not Jesus Christ.  

 

Some are rock-n-roll, some mirror a typical IFB with sound teaching, some have women pastors and some have pastors who are openly not saved, they reject the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

 

 

 

 

I never heard these things of them, I think you must of had a bad experience.      

[swathdiver]

I never heard these things of them, I think you must of had a bad experience.      

 

I never heard these things of them, I think you must of had a bad experience.      

 

Not at all, I've never been a member.

 

Even cursory research reveals these problems within the SBC.

[John81]

None of them are because they are under the authority of the Southern Baptist Convention and not Jesus Christ.  

 

Some are rock-n-roll, some mirror a typical IFB with sound teaching, some have women pastors and some have pastors who are openly not saved, they reject the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Churches belonging to the SBC are not under the authority of the SBC. Each church is independent in regards to how their church is run, just as are IFB churches. This is why, like IFB churches, one can find an SBC church which preaches the Gospel and is conservative in it's approach, while down the block might be another which does something else.

 

The SBC churches which preach the Gospel are under the authority of Christ just as any other church that preaches the Gospel.

 

As we've discussed here before, there is no perfect church, there are no perfect pastors, but there are pastors and churches out there among the SBC (and other groups) which do preach the Gospel and are followers of Christ.

[swathdiver]

Churches belonging to the SBC are not under the authority of the SBC. Each church is independent...

 

Like McDonalds John, some are corporate and some are like franchises.  I don't know how best to describe it.  I have read the SBCs own writings where they have installed and removed pastors from SBC churches.  That places them in authority over the church and not Christ.  Then again, a friend of mine felt called to preach at a SBC church and the members selected him and he runs it in a biblical, Christ-honoring manner.  In central Florida somewhere there is an Independent, Fundamental Southern Baptist Convention Church with rock bands, immoral dress and hippy clothing worn by the preacher and his wife.  When I speak of immoral dress, it's the wife and children on their website!

[JerryNumbers]

What do you think about the Southern Baptist church, are they New Testament?

 

Most of the SBC Churches claims to to be Protestant, if they're Protestant that means they came out of the Roman Catholic Church, & if they came out of the Roman Catholic Church they cannot be  New Testament church.

 

And New Testament Church is a church that teaches ALL Bible truths & its Head is Christ.

[John81]

Most of the SBC Churches claims to to be Protestant, if they're Protestant that means they came out of the Roman Catholic Church, & if they came out of the Roman Catholic Church they cannot be  New Testament church.

 

And New Testament Church is a church that teaches ALL Bible truths & its Head is Christ.

Most all non-Catholic churches use the term Protestant but only because the meaning has changed over the years so that such a name only means one is a non-Catholic Christian. The Protestant Reformation was centuries ago. None of the churches in existence today, especially in America, literally came out of Rome; this is especially true of most all Baptist churches of whatever "branch".

 

The churches which did form after breaking with the RCC and held to some of the bad things of the RCC in their new churches and have passed that down through the years are wrong because they held to traditions rather than dropping them in favor of seeking to simply follow Scripture. Some of the American branches of these churches became much more "evangelical" (back when that term would have described us) earlier in America but then began turning back the other direction, especially during the 20th century.

 

If only churches that teach "ALL Bible truths" are considered to be New Testament Churches then I don't know if any exist. I've yet to know of any church that perfectly taught and applied ALL the Bible.

 

A New Testament church is one that has a born again pastor in the pulpit who preaches the Gospel and looks to Scripture as the source for all teaching and preaching. The church membership is that of born again believers. There are yet many across this vast nation but if the rest of the country is like around here, they are becoming fewer.

[The Glory Land]

And there are those that don't believe the Bible is 100% WORD of GOD. Do you?

[John81]

And there are those that don't believe the Bible is 100% WORD of GOD. Do you?

I believe the KJB is 100% the Word of God. There are also some Bibles in other languages which are as well.

 

If a church doesn't believe the Bible is 100% the Word of God, they should be avoided.

[HappyChristian]

The problem with accepting the label of Protestant is that the RCC claims all Protestants as the children of the RCC who need to come home...whenever someone tries to tell me I'm Protestant simply because I'm not Catholic (what does that do to Mulsims, Hindu, etc) I let them know I most certainly am not.  I'm Baptist.

[The Glory Land]

All new Testament Churches are protestants. The Catholic were on track at the very beginning, when they first called Christians. Like many Baptists are getting off track now. They started well with men that were in fire to serve God. But now falling into the pressure of this World, and are changing. New Testament? This is only a name, The true Church is called Christians.