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[Guest Guest]

PE you have to remember that not everyone has the option of having a garden and canning the fruit of it. :smile

God led us here to the suburbs to this parsonage and He will just have to protect us here.

Me too, kitagrl. All of my life. That is why we love it here. It is as "country" as we are going to get.

When I was a little girl, growing up in the RCC...I learned a song that goes like this: "Be not afraid, I go before you always, come follow me, and I will give you rest." I thought of Jesus (when singing it) although, I didn't know how simple salvation was to obtain...until years later.

Mark 1:15...And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at (near) hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. KJV 1611 AV.

[Anon]

When the menfolk all went to fight the battle at Shiloh Tennessee' date=' a Union Army force came to Western Kentucky and occupied my Great-grandmothers Tobacco farm, in Water Valley, burned her barns, ate all of her food, and took all of her hired help to work at the fortifications in Columbus, Kentucky. So how is that for not having "first hand knowledge" - southerners KNOW what it was like to have federal troops occupy their property. I stand by that. Just because it didn't happen to me directly, does not mean i do not have any knowldge of that time or place. Remember that Kentucky was a "neutral" state, and never seceeded from the Union. So what right did the soldiers have to do what they did?[/quote']

But YOU do not know.

Stuff happened to my ancestors. Stuff happened to my mom that I'm not going to talk about here. I'm sure many Jews in America had great grandparents (that they never met) die in the holocaust. That doens't mean they personally understand the holocaust...nor does it mean they know more about history than anyone else.

Just saying here that your family having been through the civil war (like probably many ancestral families here on OB) doesn't mean you are any more prepared or more qualified regarding the current state of the nation or terrorist risks.

No offense. :wvlf"

[IM4given]

Okay, but if the grandchildren of a holocaust survivor visited Auszwitz and put on some striped prisoner clothing, and worked very hard at putting themselves into that horrible moment of time, they begin to undertand how the true survivors must have endured the atrocities....

[Anon]

I have read alot on the holocaust actually.....and I would think for me to go up to a holocaust survivor (not that there are many left alive today) and say "You know, I have read so much about the holocaust, and I have visited Auschwitz....I think I understand what you went through" would be highly offensive.

Blacks today don't understand slavery....southerners today don't understand the civil war.....Northeasterners today don't understand the Boston Tea Party. Simple as that. We know what we hear, and that's it. ("understand" meaning to understand through experience).

[matie-k]

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This just goes to show how the "war re-enactments" that are done can be very harmful - it teaches people to carry the hate and bitterness and dutifully pass it along generation after generation. It baffles me why anyone would ever want to re-enact war. War is ugly murder and hate.

[Guest Guest]

Katie, I couldn't agree with you more on that one! Yes, children need to know their roots, but they do go way overboard, sometimes. The dramatization can be harmful to children...when not done properly.

[Anon]

I don't mind the ones for the war for independence because its still a heritage we are grateful for and celebrate, esp as Christians.

However the civil war and slavery should be a shameful time that EVERYBODY should get past and look towards the future. Especially southerners...and especially black people.

[IM4given]

I don't mind the ones for the war for independence because its still a heritage we are grateful for and celebrate, esp as Christians.

However the civil war and slavery should be a shameful time that EVERYBODY should get past and look towards the future. Especially southerners...and especially black people.

my family never owned any slaves :roll my family were simple farmers who did not seceed from the union :roll northern states were slave holding states as well, and that did not end with the civil war - as any black person can tell you :roll the Civil War was a fight for States Rights and had absolutely nothing to do with the issue of slavery and Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation never freed ANYBODY :roll

it was a bad time for our country and one half of the country thought it was okay to run rough shod over the other half of the country. if armed soldiers try to do that again, in the present day, they are going to be in for another bloody fight in which many innocent people will be killed - again.

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!

[Guest Guest]

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!

That is exactly the quote that I was going to post. :amen:

[Anon]

My posts have meant nothing other than to disagree with this post of yours:

As a Southerner, I understand exactly what it is like to have an occupying force come and trample the Constitution and the basic Human Rights of the people. Most Yankees do not have any inkling about such a thing ever happening in the USA - but it has happened several times in US History - with Kent State being one most remembered. They do not teach that stuff in the government propoganda history books.

I still say you have no basis on which to make the above statements. And the part about "Yankees" shows you are just as biased as those blacks that are racist because of slavery.

We are all Americans, and we are all going to suffer under Obama. Period.

[Guest Guest]

We are all Americans, and we are all going to suffer under Obama. Period.

Oh...yeah! That is a given. :sad

[JerryNumbers]

my family never owned any slaves :roll my family were simple farmers who did not seceed from the union :roll northern states were slave holding states as well, and that did not end with the civil war - as any black person can tell you :roll the Civil War was a fight for States Rights and had absolutely nothing to do with the issue of slavery and Abraham Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation never freed ANYBODY :roll

it was a bad time for our country and one half of the country thought it was okay to run rough shod over the other half of the country. if armed soldiers try to do that again, in the present day, they are going to be in for another bloody fight in which many innocent people will be killed - again.

those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!

The thing is, if you try to explain what your forefathers when thru, they will be those who will accuse you of hating, holding grudges.

Many just do not want to hear what others went thru, they just want everything smooth and pretty and sweep stuff like that our of sight.

Many times, its the ones who were on the other side that feel this way, but not all of the time.

[Guest Guest]

:goodpost: Pastor Jerry.

[John81]

Many Southern families pass on their family heritage and history today just as so many folks did in times past. Just as the Bible records the passing on of Jewish history and heritage from one generation to another, so many Southern families have done and still do.

While The War is just something from a history book or from a class in school, to many Southern folk it's an integral part of their family history and heritage.

Jerry has made a couple very good posts on this already so I won't bother to repeat what he said; just want to say "Good posts Jerry!" :thumb

[JerryNumbers]

That war, to me, was an unfortunate war, sad that even families fought against families.

I to think it was a war that did not have to have been fought.

I do wonder, will it ever come to that again? Why I say that, people are getting where they want take much before they strike back.

Plus our government seems to be out of control growing by leaps and bounds, and keep forcing new laws on us, now they are even buying into private businesses.

Recently Congressman Dodd, I believe it was, said they cannot trust the one who led General Motors into this problem, to guide them out of this problem.

Well the way I see it, we can't trust people like Congressman Dodd to get America out of this problem, for he and the others were the ones who led us into it. Americans need to listen to this man and heed his words before its to late, if it isn't already.

When will Americans wake up, our Congressmen are selling us out while getting rich will we pay a big salary and expense account with a retirement fit for a king, those Congressmen are not public servants, servants obey those who are over them, these Congressmen do only that which is gain for them while telling us they're doing what is best for America. Makes me thing of the old saying, liars, liars, pants on fire.