Members trc123 Posted April 8, 2010 Members Posted April 8, 2010 What is the purpose of even pushing such a proclamation?http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/07/virginia.confederate.history/index.html?hpt=Sbin Quote
Administrators HappyChristian Posted April 8, 2010 Administrators Posted April 8, 2010 I don't know the purpose, but they're sure using it as a chance to re-write history! Quote
Members JerryNumbers Posted April 8, 2010 Members Posted April 8, 2010 Political correctness. Trying to squeeze out ever vote he can get. Isn't that what all politics is about. Isn't that why we get promises by politicians that they know they will never keep? Even promises they know they cannot keep? Quote
Members chev1958 Posted April 8, 2010 Members Posted April 8, 2010 Are you guys saying the Virginia governor should not issue such a proclamation? Quote
Members trc123 Posted April 8, 2010 Author Members Posted April 8, 2010 I haven't made a statement to this point, I'm asking the question "What is the purpose of even pushing such a proclamation?" Anyone have an answer you care to share? I'd be interested in knowing. Thank you. Quote
Members chev1958 Posted April 8, 2010 Members Posted April 8, 2010 It's a significant, misunderstood part of American history. Quote
Members John81 Posted April 8, 2010 Members Posted April 8, 2010 This is a yearly thing in most Southern States and has been for decades. April has long been the main month chosen to honour Confederate history and has been this way for well over a hundred years. The difference is that today we have so much political correctness and only certain people are supposed to be allowed to celebrate their history and remember the heroic deeds of their ancestors. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas he used to sign a similar proclamation each year and we all know Bills on the liberal side yet even he understood the meaning of the proclamation and the importance such held (and still holds) among a large number of sons and daughters of the South. Quote
Members trc123 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Members Posted April 9, 2010 This is a yearly thing in most Southern States and has been for decades. April has long been the main month chosen to honour Confederate history and has been this way for well over a hundred years. The difference is that today we have so much political correctness and only certain people are supposed to be allowed to celebrate their history and remember the heroic deeds of their ancestors. When Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas he used to sign a similar proclamation each year and we all know Bills on the liberal side yet even he understood the meaning of the proclamation and the importance such held (and still holds) among a large number of sons and daughters of the South. Thank you for the explanation. Quote
Members JerryNumbers Posted April 9, 2010 Members Posted April 9, 2010 I thought that when something has been settled, forgiveness asked, and received, silly me I suppose, I thought it was suppose to be forgotten and should not keep being brought up. Why rub salt into old wounds? And of course, how many people that are living today had anything at all to do with slavery? I know I did not and I have never even had a single thought about owning slaves and have never wanted to own a slave. Of course I understand well that some want to bring it up for they think we who never owned a slave, never wanted a slave, owes them and should furnish them with all of their wants without them making any efforts. One thing I respect, its the man, who works to provide for his family, thinking no man owes him, no matter what color his skin. I've known many men of different colors who has done this. Quote
Members John81 Posted April 9, 2010 Members Posted April 9, 2010 Very true Jerry. I times past it was common and right to move beyond the bad and to celebrate the good. However, today it's no longer enough to have bad things from the past done away with and forgiveness is no longer extended. This is especially true of the pet grievances of the liberals who demand continual recitation of their view of the bad of the past along with continually demanding appolgies from those who had nothing to do with it. Do liberals really want a society of equals? Do liberals really want to move into the future leaving the past behind? Of course not! It's to their advantage to keep racial tensions from falling too much. It's to their advantage to continually play the guilt card along with the race card and the 'you owe me' card. There is plenty of bad in our past, as with all nations, but notice liberals only focus upon that which they see benefits them and ignore all the rest. How often do we hear liberals decrying the racist and elitist movement of Margaret Sanger...who happens to be one of their heroes? Quote
Members trc123 Posted April 9, 2010 Author Members Posted April 9, 2010 I thought that when something has been settled, forgiveness asked, and received, silly me I suppose, I thought it was suppose to be forgotten and should not keep being brought up. Why rub salt into old wounds? And of course, how many people that are living today had anything at all to do with slavery? I know I did not and I have never even had a single thought about owning slaves and have never wanted to own a slave. Of course I understand well that some want to bring it up for they think we who never owned a slave, never wanted a slave, owes them and should furnish them with all of their wants without them making any efforts. One thing I respect, its the man, who works to provide for his family, thinking no man owes him, no matter what color his skin. I've known many men of different colors who has done this. I couldn't agree more, which is why I'm having difficulty in understanding why someone would make a state wide proclamation concerning something they know has bad memories for a large portion of their citizens. Like you said, "Why rub salt into old wounds?" Quote
Members chev1958 Posted April 9, 2010 Members Posted April 9, 2010 David C. McCullough - History is a guide to navigation in perilous times. History is who we are and why we are the way we are. George Santayana - Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Quote
Members John81 Posted April 10, 2010 Members Posted April 10, 2010 I couldn't agree more, which is why I'm having difficulty in understanding why someone would make a state wide proclamation concerning something they know has bad memories for a large portion of their citizens. Like you said, "Why rub salt into old wounds?" Why should the majority who wish to continue to hold this give it up because of a few whining liberals who don't approve? It's a great mistake to believe all or even most blacks in the South have a prOBlem with this. Outside of academia, most blacks I've known over the years either don't care about such, think it's okay and some even like it. One of the reasons there is so much trouble in this country is because we don't know our own history and therefor have no sound context for our present and no clear direction for our future. Quote
Members trc123 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Members Posted April 10, 2010 Why should the majority who wish to continue to hold this give it up because of a few whining liberals who don't approve? It's a great mistake to believe all or even most blacks in the South have a prOBlem with this. Outside of academia, most blacks I've known over the years either don't care about such, think it's okay and some even like it. One of the reasons there is so much trouble in this country is because we don't know our own history and therefor have no sound context for our present and no clear direction for our future. Yes, of course you are right. The majority always does what is right and Biblical and treat their brother as themselves. Very Christian, absolutely. I stand corrected, please accept my apologies. Quote
Members Wilchbla Posted April 10, 2010 Members Posted April 10, 2010 (edited) I couldn't agree more, which is why I'm having difficulty in understanding why someone would make a state wide proclamation concerning something they know has bad memories for a large portion of their citizens. Like you said, "Why rub salt into old wounds?" I live in Virginia, though I'm from the North, and the main reason that the Governor made the proclamation was to save the historic battlefields in Virginia and to increase tourism. The last eight years under the Dems here in VA there has been a push to develop all the historic sites, i.e. to build strip malls and such on historic land. Particularly in Chancellorville, where they have been fighting to keep a Wal-Mart from being built right next to the Battlefield. I have no prOBlem whatsover with the Govs. proclamation. Some of the landmarks in Petersburg are pretty much gone, surrounded by fast food restaurants and mini-marts or completely paved over all together. I remember when this type of stuff happened in Rome, NY with the historic sites from the Revoluntionary War. They allowed many of their historic sites including Fort Stanwix to be boxed in and overtaken by urban sprawl. Edited April 10, 2010 by Wilchbla Quote
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