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  1. 1. On what day was Christ crucified and buried?

    • Wednesday (before resurrection Sunday)
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    • Thursday
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    • Friday (traditional Good Friday)
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    • Saturday
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To be frank, whatever day Jesus died on cannot be counted as a day - as it was the very end of the day when He died. God is not stupid and would not count mere minutes or even an hour as a whole day.

The Bible also teaches there were two sabbaths - and the day after the Passover was a high sabbath (ie. a ceremonial one).

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

They bought the spices AFTER the sabbath.

Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

They prepared the spices BEFORE the sabbath.

Unless there were TWO SABBATHS that week plus a preparation day in between, there is an irreconcilable contradiction there.

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, was taken down just before sundown - was in the grave Wednesday night and Thursday day (the first day - and according to Leviticus 23, a ceremonial sabbath always immediately follows the Passover), Thursday night and Friday day (the second day - the day of preparation for the weekly sabbath), Friday night and Saturday day (the third day) - thus fulfilling the type of Jonah, being 3 literal days and three literal nights - and Jesus arose sometime after sundown on Saturday - and the Gospels teach He was ALREADY gone from the tomb before the sun rose on Sunday morning.

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To be frank, whatever day Jesus died on cannot be counted as a day - as it was the very end of the day when He died. God is not stupid and would not count mere minutes or even an hour as a whole day.

The Bible also teaches there were two sabbaths - and the day after the Passover was a high sabbath (ie. a ceremonial one).

Mark 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.

They bought the spices AFTER the sabbath.

Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

They prepared the spices BEFORE the sabbath.

Unless there were TWO SABBATHS that week plus a preparation day in between, there is an irreconcilable contradiction there.

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, was taken down just before sundown - was in the grave Wednesday night and Thursday day (the first day - and according to Leviticus 23, a ceremonial sabbath always immediately follows the Passover), Thursday night and Friday day (the second day - the day of preparation for the weekly sabbath), Friday night and Saturday day (the third day) - thus fulfilling the type of Jonah, being 3 literal days and three literal nights - and Jesus arose sometime after sundown on Saturday - and the Gospels teach He was ALREADY gone from the tomb before the sun rose on Sunday morning.



I traced this all at one time, but I wonder if Wed. night "prayer meeting" (as it used to be called) originated to commemorate Gethsemane, when Jesus agonized in prayer? If so, His death would be Thurs., but that is sort of "backward reasoning" I suppose. Of course, the important thing is that we know for sure He arose on the first day, or sometime before. It must have been close to 6 o'clock because the angels were still there waiting for Mary to come by. even so, why did Mary wait until the first day to come to the tomb? It was because that was a high Sabbath, and no work could be done on Friday or Sat (the regular Sabbath), so she came "early on the first day of the week". Edited by irishman
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Dying on Thursday afternoon does not give you three days and three nights in the tomb.

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Dying on Thursday afternoon does not give you three days and three nights in the tomb.

It gives you three, but night comes first, as it did in the O.T.
6PM to 6 AM 1st night (Thurs. night)
6 Am To 6 PM 1st day (Friday)
Friday night 2nd night;
Sat morning 2nd day;
Sat night 3rd night
Sun. morning 3rd day (early)

Christ arose the 1st day (Sunday), but it did not have to be a full day.

Jesus had to be in the tomb before 6 o'clock on Thurs, and that may have counted for the first day too.

Your reasoning would have Jesus raising on the 4th day.
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It gives you three, but night comes first, as it did in the O.T.
6PM to 6 AM 1st night (Thurs. night)
6 Am To 6 PM 1st day (Friday)
Friday night 2nd night;
Sat morning 2nd day;
Sat night 3rd night
Sun. morning 3rd day (early)

Christ arose the 1st day (Sunday), but it did not have to be a full day.

Jesus had to be in the tomb before 6 o'clock on Thurs, and that may have counted for the first day too.

Your reasoning would have Jesus raising on the 4th day.
I said Wednesday.

To believe in a verbally inspired Bible it would have to be three literal 24 hour days.

Jesus was placed on the cross at 9 Am our time and removed at 4 Pm our time. Placed in the tomb before sunset (before the beginning of the "high" sabbath. A sabbath that came on Thursday that week.

At about sunset on Thursday he had been in the grave one day and one night. At about sunset on Friday he had been in the grave 2 days and 2 nights. Then, just after the three full days and three full nights, He arose. He arose as it began to dawn the first day of the week (just after Saturday, our time). The women came early Sunday Am, our time ,but He was already gone. The expression on the third day in the Gospels (referring to His resurrection) would be the same as saying after the third day to us.

Wednesday.

Respectfully Submitted,

Br Steve

Gal. 2.20
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You can't count any of "Sunday day" when He arose during the night (as you are counting that as Saturday night).

As far as Jesus arising "on the fourth day" by this reckoning, see these passages:

2 Chronicles 10:5 And he said unto them, Come again unto me after three days. And the people departed.
2 Chronicles 10:12 So JerOBoam and all the people came to RehOBoam on the third day, as the king bade, saying, Come again to me on the third day.

1 Kings 12:5 And he said unto them, Depart yet for three days, then come again to me. And the people departed.
1 Kings 12:12 So JerOBoam and all the people came to RehOBoam the third day, as the king had appointed, saying, Come to me again the third day.

They went away for three days - but yet this is counted as coming "on the third day." No contradiction - just need to study out the Biblical usage of this phrase.

I am not saying this is the only way this phrase is used - but it does not contradict the conclusions or the usage above. It takes all the passages literally, without explaining away any - and takes each day as 12 hours, and each night as 12 hours (therefore a 24 hour day):

John 11:9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

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