What a ridiculous level of hate

[Seth Doty]

Scandal in Iran

I can't believe anyone in any government hopes for peace in the middle east when even things like this provoke a scandal and resignations in the Arab world.

[JerryNumbers]

Was it not the same type of hate that was shown towards our Savior, the same level of hate exist today.

[Kayla]

Oh my...

[1Timothy115]

I wasn't aware of this hatred from Iran toward Israel. I knew they didn't recognize Israel but even that was somewhere far back in my thoughts. Our Lord will take care of this eminently imminently.

[HappyChristian]

Ridiculous to us, but most Arab nations want Israel gone.

I wasn't aware of this hatred from Iran toward Israel. I knew they didn't recognize Israel but even that was somewhere far back in my thoughts. Our Lord will take care of this eminently imminently.

In 2005, the new Iranian president said Israel should be wiped off the map:

Iran's conservative new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Wednesday that Israel must be "wiped off the map" and that attacks by Palestinians would destroy it, the ISNA press agency reported.

Ahmadinejad was speaking to an audience of about 4,000 students at a program called "The World Without Zionism," in preparation for an annual anti-Israel demonstration on the last Friday of the holy month of Ramadan.

His tone was reminiscent of that of the early days of Iran's Islamic revolution in 1979. Iran and Israel have been bitter enemies since then, and anti-Israel slogans have been common at rallies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/26/world/africa/26iht-iran.html

By conservative, they mean Islamic, not conservative the way we mean it...

[Covenanter]

It is ridiculous. One would hope that sporting relationships at least would be friendly.

I do not think it is as bad as American football teams refusing to play against Rutgers College because they included the Negro Paul ROBeson.

There is a lot of dangerous politicking around the Middle East. We need also to realise that while WE sent our forces into Iraq & Afgha to fight terrorism & bring freedom & democracy, the people there see Christian nations raining death & destruction in a crusade against Muslim nations.

[HappyChristian]

It is ridiculous. One would hope that sporting relationships at least would be friendly.

I do not think it is as bad as American football teams refusing to play against Rutgers College because they included the Negro Paul ROBeson.

There is a lot of dangerous politicking around the Middle East. We need also to realise that while WE sent our forces into Iraq & Afgha to fight terrorism & bring freedom & democracy, the people there see Christian nations raining death & destruction in a crusade against Muslim nations.

Not all the people, Cov - just those who are rabid Islamists who support jihad. A great majority of the rank and file Afghani or Iraqi love our country and were very thankful when we went in there.

[JerryNumbers]

I think many of them love our country to, but only for what they can get out of her.

[Seth Doty]

A great majority of the rank and file Afghani or Iraqi love our country and were very thankful when we went in there.

I wish I could believe that, it is what our government would like us to believe, but everything I have seen causes me to rather strongly feel that true friends of the USA are about as scarce as hens teeth in the middle east. I don't doubt that many Afghani's/Iraqi's hated the governments we overthrew, but in a very short time they transfered all that hatred to the USA. I think they are culturally and religiously predisposed to hate somebody, and that somebody happens to be Israel and usually by extension the USA. When you see how even little children are indoctrinated with hatred against Israel and the USA even in preschool and kindergarten, you realize the total impossibility of "peace talks" getting anywhere without total war and a cultural change coming first.

[HappyChristian]

Actually, Seth, our government and the media do not portray what the rank and file over there feel. My info comes from soldiers and other visitors who have been over there and experienced it.

[bzmomo7]

HC is right, Seth, we have some Iranian friends who insist that it is not the way the news portrays it either. They say that yes, there are the extremists, but many Iranians look to our country with respect.

[trc123]

I remember attending military basic training for the USAF with the Iranian recruits on base at the time. It was prior to the Iranian revolution and they were considered smart cookies who valued education and were more moderate in recognizing women's rights, etc.

That all changed with the revolution. There has been a silent majority waiting for the day that the Ayatollah's would be overthrown and they would go back to being part of the world community.

[JerryNumbers]

I remember attending military basic training for the USAF with the Iranian recruits on base at the time. It was prior to the Iranian revolution and they were considered smart cookies who valued education and were more moderate in recognizing women's rights, etc.

That all changed with the revolution. There has been a silent majority waiting for the day that the Ayatollah's would be overthrown and they would go back to being part of the world community.

A bit off topic, but do you know about this?

USAF Basic Military Training Flight Photos

I found it right after they started it, emailed my flight picture, and the posted it. Yours might be there if someone has sent it in.

[Seth Doty]

HC is right, Seth, we have some Iranian friends who insist that it is not the way the news portrays it either. They say that yes, there are the extremists, but many Iranians look to our country with respect.

I guess I am just a skeptic. I don't see all our supposed friends in the Arab world. I mean, look at the "Palestinian state", they get democratic elections and what do they do? The vote Hamas, a terrorist group, into power. That tells me right there that actual "moderates" or friends of the US are pretty rare in that area. When we eventually get totally out of Iraq don't be surprised if a terrorist group or a overtly anti-american thug becomes the democratically elected leadership. OBviously we are not going to let that happen while we are still there but once we completely pull out I strongly suspect the government we have put in place will begin to fall apart and things will start swinging that way. I guess we will see one way or another in 10-15 years.

Same thing in Saudi Arabia, what we have there is a brutal regime that our government does everything it can to prop up because the royal family, though hardly our friends, is going to keep things at least somewhat under control in that country because it must in order to remain in power. I suspect that will eventually blow up in our face too.

[trc123]

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