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This thread has been started in response to members of this forum. I am personally humbled, but spiritually thrilled to have been requested to host such a thread discussion. Indeed, I have been burdened for some time to engage in a discussion here at Online Baptist concerning the matter of spiritual revival. Due to the direct request, I believe that now is the appropriate time to do so. Yet I certainly struggle with how to begin such a spiritually important matter for our lives in our time. Since the request was presented, I have sought our Lord in prayer for His guidance in so doing. In Acts 16:30 the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas, "Sirs, what must …
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Hello everyone, I have been a member here for a little while and read through the forums quite often but rarely post or respond to posts but thought I would share this information with members who might be interested in obtaining an affordable hard copy of the PCE Bible and where to find one, recently I ordered what was listed as a Collins PCE Bible from Bible Truth Publishers, I received that bible today and what I received was a TBS printed and bound copy of the Williams Collins Sons and Company Limited Cambridge Bible text, dated 1957. It's actually the TBS Comfort Text Bible listed on their website, you can order direct from TBS or Bible Truth Publishing and receive t…
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Why was Bezaleel filled with the spirit of God? Exodus 31:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Exodus 31:2 See, I have called by name Bezaleel the son of Uri, the son of Hur, of the tribe of Judah: Exodus 31:3 And I have filled him with the spirit of God, in wisdom, and in understanding, and in knowledge, and in all manner of workmanship, Exodus 31:4 To devise cunning works, to work in gold, and in silver, and in brass, Exodus 31:5 And in cutting of stones, to set them, and in carving of timber, to work in all manner of workmanship. Why are we filled with the Spirit today? Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with t…
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We who receive Christ are all called to be witnesses. What about Christ’s disciples which are called Apostles, why were they called? Do you have a scripture quotation for your answer?
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On the eve of America’s 200th birthday, a U.S. Senator stated that the average life of the greatest civilizations of the world have been about 200 years. He also gave his observation of the stages of a nation: a. From bondage to spiritual faith, b. From spiritual faith to courage, c. From courage to liberty, d. From liberty to abundance, e. From abundance to selfishness, f. From selfishness to complacency, g. From complacency to apathy, h. From apathy BACK TO BONDAGE.
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Proverbs 21:6 The getting of treasures by a lying tongue is a vanity tossed to and fro of them that seek death. Can the treasure above be typed as misuse of God's word, false churches, religious appearance, etc? “vanity” James 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain. “tossed to and fro” Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; “seek death” Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, bu…
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In The Last Days Gen 49
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Did Jacob foresee the coming of Jesus Christ? Genesis 49:1 And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Strongs Shiloh (שִׁילֹה) 1) he whose it is, that which belongs to him, tranquillity a) meaning uncertain
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Will There Be War
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Nehemiah 4:14-22 14 And I looked, and rose up, and said unto the nobles, and to the rulers, and to the rest of the people, Be not ye afraid of them: remember the Lord, which is great and terrible, and fight for your brethren, your sons, and your daughters, your wives, and your houses. 15 And it came to pass, when our enemies heard that it was known unto us, and God had brought their counsel to nought, that we returned all of us to the wall, every one unto his work. 16 And it came to pass from that time forth, that the half of my servants wrought in the work, and the other half of them held both the spears, the shields, and the bows, and the habergeons; and the rul…
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Spiritualizing Scripture 1 2
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I heard a preacher on the radio speaking about Ishmael and Isaac, flesh and faith, man’s work vs. God’s grace. I discussed this with another Christian and he said the radio preacher was spiritualizing those scriptures. I thought it was a good “typing” for contrast in the battle of the flesh vs. faith. It is very possible I failed to give enough information for the other Christian to give a complete statement. I should have asked what he meant by “spiritualizing.” I didn’t ask so; here am I with four questions. Have you ever heard the word “spiritualizing” applied to scripture? If you recall the context or have an example can you summarize here? What is mea…
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Neglecting The Striving
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Proverbs 2 4 If thou seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as for hid treasures; 5 Then shalt thou understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Saving Grace (neglecting the striving) Hebrews 2:3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; Genesis 6:3a And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: Do you think there i…
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Acts 13:48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48 Perverted (NKJV) 48 Now when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad and glorified the word of the Lord. And as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed. This use of the word "ordained", here in the New King James, is just one example of how a degraded definition of a word can add to to or take away from the Word of God. The word "ordained", in it's most familar use today, does mean appointed. but I believe the root meaning has been lost or obscured. Here is an example of it's use near the en…
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Pr 25:6 Put not forth thyself in the presence of the king, and stand not in the place of great men: Pr 25:7 For better it is that it be said unto thee, Come up hither; than that thou shouldest be put lower in the presence of the prince whom thine eyes have seen. Jesus Christ is my King and my Prince; for me to worship him in spirit and in truth requires I pause and do a self assessment. Revelation 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 4:8 "...and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come." Jesus …
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In one of my seminary classes this last week the topic of discussion was on the reliability of manuscripts (it's a Hebrew course). On the discussion board we had to answer the following question as part of the post: “How can conservatives claim to have God’s very words? In this post, think like a skeptic and seek to provide answers to questions a skeptic might ask in regard to this claim." Granted, the question and the course text appear to be intended to lead the student to defend Biblical inspiration and inerrancy. I answered along the lines of text reliability, agreeability, archaeological affirmation and faith in a God who said He would preserve His word. …
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Significance Gen 36:24B
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I was just wondering what the significance of the following verse might be (24b is the part I'm wondering about)? This appears in the generations of Esau, Jacob's brother. Ge 36:24 And these are the children of Zibeon; both Ajah, and Anah: this was that Anah that found the mules in the wilderness, as he fed the asses of Zibeon his father. "that Anah" Makes me say, oh of course; that Anah! "found the mules in the wilderness" This is the first mention of mules in the Bible. So, was this the first evidence horses and donkeys could be bred together?
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Studying the Word of God in the English translation of the King James version is ok most of the time. But to get the true intended meaning of any passage I look at it in the language the authors spoke and wrote it in. I always use the King James and never the "Textus Receptus" or Latin received text for my studies. We believe in the inspired Word of God. The word inspired means God breathed or God spoke. When God spoke to His servants the prophets, He spoke to them in the language they also spoke, understood, and wrote. So one of the most important parts of my hermeneutic is to research the definition of the words in the text in the language it was written in and loo…
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Caught by the horns - in a thicket of thorns Ge 22:13 And Abraham lifted up his eyes, and looked, and behold behind him a ram caught in a thicket by his horns: and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the stead of his son. Just as the thicket was created to provide sustenance to the ram; so man was created to provide reverence to God. The ram had come into the thicket to enjoy the tender shoots; Christ came unto his own to receive reverence (Mt. 21:37, Jn. 1:11). Like the ram, the Lamb of God was not made available or caught in a thicket until God was ready to provide him. Was the thicket also a type of man?
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Pr 17:3 The fining pot is for silver, and the furnace for gold: but the LORD trieth the hearts. heart (love) ..................gold .........................silver Just a thought that occurred while catching up on yesterday's reading.
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Gen. 15:4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. "the word of the LORD" ?
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Proverbs 6
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Proverbs 6 16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren. And interesting set of verses to ponder...... I have.often wondered if there is a specific emphasis on the seventh, considering the phrasing of vs 16?
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John 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken; Jesus was speaking in another context in the verse above. But I can't help but notice a part of it, "the scripture cannot be broken." Keep the scripture above in mind while looking at the scriptures below particularly the underlined parts for now. We can go into "ages" and "covenants" later in another thread. I would lke to be sure I understand this correctly. Genesis 9:1-7 1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, a…
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No matter their age, some folks never get it...wisdom. The word "doctrine" is found in the O.T. six times. Deuteronomy 32:2, Job 11:4, Proverbs 4:2, Isaiah 28:9, Isaiah 29:24, Jeremiah 10:8 Proverbs 4:2 "For I give you good doctrine, forsake ye not my law." In this particular scripture doctrine focuses on wisdom, understanding, and instruction. Proverbs 4:5-13 5 Get wisdom, get understanding: forget it not; neither decline from the words of my mouth. 6 Forsake her not, and she shall preserve thee: love her, and she shall keep thee. 7 Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. 8 Exalt her, and she sha…
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Here After What?
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Rev. 4:1 After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter. "...I will shew thee things which must be hereafter." What is the meaning of this obviously sharp line of demarcation, that is, "hereafter?"
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I Samuel 15:3, "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
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Ohio had a trifecta President Trump, Senator Moreno (R) replaced Brown (D), and NO on issue 1! From what I hear the nation also has a trifecta of republicans for president, senate, and house. I hope the opportunity isn't squandered. -
Many years ago I came across a sermon an IB preacher named Gary Dice when he visited Australia, and from memory he was preaching on this passage, or at least referencing it. He sang a slightly silly song about this section of Romans 7, but I have never been able to find any reference to it anywhere else. I would appreciate it if anyone has heard of it and could give me a reference or link to it, or best case, the sheet music. I know there are many songs that come up when you do a google search, but none of them have been the one I am looking for. It has the words almost direct from the KJV, not just something loosely based on that text. Thanks folks.
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I also noticed he seems quieter, perhaps more humble this time. But even last time I had come to view his particular tendency to boast as just having an immensely positive attitude. He's also careful to thank others and to offer credit where credit is due, while having no compunctions about calling out anyone who deserves none. -
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Just to clarify on the repenting God did when Israel turned from their evil ways. The thing here is that their turning from evil ways here is called... works. So since salvation isnt by works ..and turning from evils ways IS works.. hence the issue with repent meaning 'turn from sin'. So there is what I was meaning. -
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Thankfully the pastors I know NEVER STOPPED preaching the gospel. Remember, TGL, they're to preach the whole counsel of God, not just salvation messages. And just to be clear, preaching messages that promote conservative, Biblical values is imperative. Maybe one should let the Holy Spirit guide in what these pastors preach, eh?
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