Would you vote for a presidential candidate who was a woman?

[Guest Guest]

Isaiah 3:12- As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.

Perhaps a verse against women in government.

Wil

[John81]

Yep - and that's why I made the comment about me actually being ultra right-wing (not the Nazi kind' date=' though!). I don't agree with Buchanan on everything, but more than W and his cronies.[/quote']

It should be noted that the idea that Nazis were "right wing" is a liberal lie. Nazism and Communism share much in common. While most classify communism as being to the "left", the liberals have worked hard from the time of WWII to classify Nazism as being a part of the "right".

The fact is, Nazism is another form of socialism, as their name states, they are National Socialists! Like their communist cousins, Nazis believed in the concept of a central, supreme leader forming a government that would rule over virtually all aspects of what went on under their control.

Like the communists, the nazis took control of various industries and heavily regulated the lives of its citizens.

So, while liberals have done a great job of making folks believe the Nazis were "right wing", mostly through their domination of the media and public schools, the fact is the Nazis were SOCIALISTS; close cousins to the COMMUNISTS, and both very much "left wing" liberals!

[Guest Guest]

That's true. The Nazis were Socialists. Very liberal. They encouraged the men to have babies out of wedlock for the party. Homosexuality was rampant. Rationalism and the liberal philosophies of Neitzsche ruled in the Universities. This "they were right wingers" stuff is just all liberal spin.

As far as Buchanan. I actually voted for this guy when he ran for president back in 2000. Me and only about 5,000 other folks in the whole country. I liked his idea of putting a fence on the Mexican border. This was even before illegal immigration became such a hot topic.

Wil

PS This liberal pitch about the "right -wing" "conservative" Nazis imprisoning homos because of there "orientation" isn't true. Many of the imprisoning of homos was because they belonged to the SA which was an imposing political group to the SS. Many of the SA leaders were flaming homos. But when they were killed off or imprisoned it have nothing to do with their "lifestyle" but rather just a power struggle between two parties.

[HappyChristian]

I know that Nazi's were not truly "right wing" - called that due to their supposed extreme "nationalism." But I work with a Jew whose family fled the Reich - and he will never vote anything but Democratic because the Republicans are too "right wing" - like the Nazi's, in his book. Anyone who is adamantly pro-American in his book is Nazi like because they were supposedly a nationalistic party. It kind of cracks me up, though, 'cause it was the German "worker's" party...and that is always identified with socialism...which Hillary is pushing.

He, however, has no problem with a Hillary presidency. *sigh*

[Guest Guest]

I know that Nazi's were not truly "right wing" - called that due to their supposed extreme "nationalism." But I work with a Jew whose family fled the Reich - and he will never vote anything but Democratic because the Republicans are too "right wing" - like the Nazi's, in his book. Anyone who is adamantly pro-American in his book is Nazi like because they were supposedly a nationalistic party. It kind of cracks me up, though, 'cause it was the German "worker's" party...and that is always identified with socialism...which Hillary is pushing.

He, however, has no problem with a Hillary presidency. *sigh*

Ok, I see your point. That does make sense. Thanks.

Wil

[Ron]

I said yes, but only if that woman's name wasn't Hillary Clinton and only if the woman in question was the best candidate out there. So I guess my choice should have really been "depends" but i didn't see that poll option until i looked at it again. haha. But even a woman President would still need to keep silent in my church! :lol

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law." I Corinthians 14:34

[Flourgirl]

ABSOLUTLY!!!!!!!!!!! :thumb

[Guest Guest]

Not for the primaries but if it was a conservative woman vs. someone like Hilary' date=' I'd vote for her for sure.[/quote']

I'm with Kevin on this one

[HappyChristian]

[offtopic]Hey, JenSpin - just noticed that you're from Silverdale - neat! My folks live in Sequim and go to church in Poulsbo. My mom likes to shop in Silverdale. :Green[/offtopic]

[Guest Guest]

[offtopic]Hey' date=' JenSpin - just noticed that you're from Silverdale - neat! My folks live in Sequim and go to church in Poulsbo. My mom likes to shop in Silverdale. :Green[/offtopic']

Where in Poulsbo do they attend? We have yet to find a church home and I am really getting antsy! We've had a hard time - as Southerners - adjusting to the very laid-back attitude in churches here. I know it's cultural and we're trying our very best to just deal with it!

We really like Sequim. If your parents attend in Pouslbo, they are making quite a drive!

Jennifer

[Marcus2Israel]

and un-American, too. her ideas are socialistic. I don't think universal health care is the answer at all. Oregon is trying to give it a go, but I don't think we will find it working.

Hillary (even if she were a man) would not be the best choice for President.

I wonder, though, how Christians can justify sitting by and not voting. We are called to be salt and light in the world. If we are witnessing, that's good, but not the entire answer because not all men will be saved.

There are plenty of unsaved people out there who are with us as far as morality is concerned. If we are not involved with our government, then those rabid anti-Christian/anti-God people will rule and our freedom will be gone.

Can they sit idly by and say, "God's will be done"?

The heart of the king is in the Lord's hand, yes, but what are we doing when we do nothing? When there is nothing we can do, then we can pray. If there is something we can do, don't we have a duty to do it?

did that totally just go off topic???? (edited :coffee )

Well 5d the way our government works it doesn't matter if you vote or not. Thats my opinion, I don't buy into all the "If you don't vote your disobeying God! thing. I see our governement as extremely corrupt and bought off so we have little say in presidential election. *prepares for some serious attacks*

Anyway I voted no, I don't think women and emotionaly equiped to lead. Ohh man I can see how much i'm gonna get yelled at for this post...

[JerryNumbers]

No. it would be sin for me to do so.

For there is no doubt in my mind that God put man in the leadership position in church, home, and outside of the home.

Instead of voting for the best of 2 evils it would be best not to even vote.

[John81]

No. it would be sin for me to do so.

For there is no doubt in my mind that God put man in the leadership position in church, home, and outside of the home.

Instead of voting for the best of 2 evils it would be best not to even vote.

:amen:

[Guest Guest]

If women were not capable leaders, you'd have to explain the great Queens of England who stared the notorious Catholic Inquisition in the eye and allowed an escape venue for Christians.

Another thing, you always hear sermons about the male judges of Israel...what about Deborah? She did that which was right, as well. :2cents

[JerryNumbers]

Go study about Deborah and why that came about being a leader, them you might understand it.

But besides that, did you even stop and think why they were not more women leaders? Surely if God really approved of them He woudl have appointed many more of them. And or consider these verses which are very plain.

Gen 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

1Co 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Eph 5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Pe 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;

1Pe 3:5 For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:

Of course there is a proper way of doing this, its suppose to be done in love and for the glory of God and it will not be abused if the husband loves his wife as he loves himself and the Lord thy God.

Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;