Churchill, Hitler & Obama and the Centralized State

[John81]

Friday, March 27 2009
Churchill, Hitler & Obama and the Centralized State
Bret McAtee @ 6:02 am

?Military duty was an essential civic duty, and it was the responsibility of the Army to unify, once and for all, the population of the Reich?.

Here, indeed, was the formal and legal embodiment of Hitler?s words in Mein Kampf:

The coming National Socialist State should not fall into the error of the past and assign the Army the task which it does not and should not have. The German Army is not to be a school for the maintenance of tribal peculiarities, but rather a school for the mutual understanding and adjustment of all Germans. Whatever may have a disruptive effect in national life should be given a unifying effect through the Army. It should furthermore raise the individual youth above the narrow horizon of his little countryside and place him in the German nation?.

The regimentation of German youth was the prime task of the new regime. Starting in the ranks of the Hitler Youth, the boyhood of Germany passed at the age of eighteen on a voluntary basis into the S.A. for two years. By a law ? the work battalions became a compulsory duty on every male German reaching the age of twenty. For six months he would have to serve his country, constructing roads, building barracks, or draining marshes?.In the work battalions, the emphasis lay upon the abolition of class and the stressing of social unity of the German people?.

Sir Winston Churchill
The Gathering Storm ? pp. 143-144
The reason I quote this section from Churchill?s book is to show the eerie similarity between 1930?s Germany and what is being advanced for our country. Recently HR 1388 has been getting a great deal of ink. Like much controversial proposed legislation there is uncertainty about what it exactly means. The uncertainty is cooked into the proposed legislation in order to make it look at benign as possible.

At its worst HR 1388 is the likely beginning fulfillment of Obama?s campaign statement that America needs a civilian security force equal to the US Military.

[tired]

At first, I thought the people who voted for Obama were ignorant about what Obama believed, and only voted for him cause he was black or that the republicans couldn't put out a good candidate. Now I believe that the majority of people who voted for him are socialists and want gov to handle and take care of everything. I believe God's judgement on the US is in full swing.

[John81]

You are correct. Obama's message was very clear. Clear enough that even those who did vote for Obama primarily because he is black still understood the message and wanted what he offered. That's why even if the Repubs had managed to get Condi Rice to run for president, those who wanted to vote for a black for president would have chosen Obama over Rice because they WANT the socialism he promised.

No nation is exempt from the judgement and wrath of God. For far too long "worldy Christians" have believed America was "too Christian" for God to have a real problem with America. Even many actual Christians in America have believed somehow their being here or the luke-warm support America gives Israel would spare America from God's judgement.

Not so. God demands obedience and His blessings are conditional. Short of a massive Great Awakening bringing about national repentance America is going to be brought low under the heavy hand of God's righteous judgement.

[trc123]

At first' date=' I thought the people who voted for Obama were ignorant about what Obama believed, and only voted for him cause he was black or that the republicans couldn't put out a good candidate. Now I believe that the majority of people who voted for him are socialists and want gov to handle and take care of everything. I believe God's judgement on the US is in full swing.[/quote']

So I fully understand what you've written; are you saying that God's judgment on the US is in full swing because America is moving toward socialism and greater government involvement? Or, are you saying that God's judgment (based upon some other criteria) is being poured out in the manner of socialism and greater government involvement?

[1Timothy115]

I should wait for the answer but, won't. I'll give my :2cents now. God's judgement is on this nation because: Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

Socialism, deteriorating economy, and loss of respect for this nation are just some of the milder judgements. I expect far worse from God judging a nation who had every opportunity to freely worship God but, turned their back.

Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Proverbs 21:2 Every way of a man is right in his own eyes: but the LORD pondereth the hearts.
Proverbs 30:12 There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.

with the result:
Ezekiel 22:31 Therefore have I poured out mine indignation upon them; I have consumed them with the fire of my wrath: their own way have I recompensed upon their heads, saith the Lord GOD. (emphasis added)

[tired]

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another

[Wilchbla]

At first' date=' I thought the people who voted for Obama were ignorant about what Obama believed, and only voted for him cause he was black or that the republicans couldn't put out a good candidate. Now I believe that the majority of people who voted for him are socialists and want gov to handle and take care of everything. I believe God's judgement on the US is in full swing.[/quote']

People always get what they ask for.