Answering Abortionists

[1Timothy115]

I do not support abortion. But how do I or we answer abortionists for some of their arguments?

Some family, very close to me, continue to bring up the 11-year-old child here in Ohio who was raped by the illegal alien. Then, they throw out the usual "What about when the woman's life is at risk?" or "What about when the baby dies in utero, that's an abortion too?" "Will you arrest a woman whose baby dies just before birth and must be aborted?"

So, what is the best answer to all of these challenges? The prevalent reason for women seeking abortions...answer, is fraught with liberal institutional gobbledygook. I believe its time I asked for help, and I'll ask here now and at our men's prayer breakfast this coming Saturday.

[Salyan]

Those questions about if the baby has already died are just silly. The objection to abortion is that it kills a baby. If the baby is already dead, it isn’t really an abortion. 
 

Those extreme examples like the rape case madden me. Even if abortion remained legal for those cases, think how many millions of lives would be saved by outlawing it for those who had a choice in the conception. 
 

[1Timothy115]

10 hours ago, Salyan said:

Those questions about if the baby has already died are just silly. The objection to abortion is that it kills a baby. If the baby is already dead, it isn’t really an abortion. 
 

Those extreme examples like the rape case madden me. Even if abortion remained legal for those cases, think how many millions of lives would be saved by outlawing it for those who had a choice in the conception. 
 

Thanks, I believe right along with you. Abortion is murder of a baby. Abortionists take the medical terminology "the pregnancy was aborted" (in the case of in utero) and continue on with their rant. We can't force God's truth into the hearts of people, we give them the gospel of Jesus Christ and leave the result to the working of the Holy Spirit. 

However, I would like the tools available to defend against the abortionist argument. I believe the superficial abortionist leader's justifications could be dispelled with a little education and information. Thus, causing most women deluded by abortionists to at least question the lies. As a retired weapons fire control chief, I would like several types of munitions to throw back at the enemy. I sure could use some untainted (by unsaved medical personnel) statistics on reasons women seek abortions.

Also, I think we will need this information and education in the months and years ahead to fend off the radical liberals who may attempt to use this to leverage elections.

[Disciple.Luke]

I see many videos of Ben Shapiro's Q&A sessions on YouTube when he speaks at a University. When they bring up the extreme cases you're talking about he usually just points out how those specific circumstances only account for a small percentage of abortions and shouldn't be used to form an overall option on the subject.

While most pro choice seem to be a waste of time to argue with because they always fall back on their own definition of what when baby becomes a living being there are some counter arguments I like. To me the most thought provoking is pointing out how they champion individual rights to life and choice UNLESS it the rights of baby itself... especially if the baby was female and the parent took away it's rights to live.

The pro choice stance is one position that I find extremely difficult to understand. To me the issue is clearly nothing less than mass murder and on la arger scale than all the school shootings put together that they love to use as a chance to talk about taking away everyone's firearms. 

[swathdiver]

The baby killers are always focused on the needs of the mother, not the child.  That says a lot about them.

The murder of an un-born child in her mother's womb is the most selfish and heinous act a person can make.

As for the 11 year old, I ask why should the innocent baby be murdered because of the sins of another?

In their heart they know, they just change the subject or start calling you names.  They're demonic because it's such an evil position to take.

I was one of them once, used to run them off the sidewalks outside clinics in my car.  Then by the grace of God I saw my first sonogram and that was it, I saw life and quit pretending God didn't exist.

I love to show this first photo of our youngest daughter at 6 weeks of age.  I could see her heart beating.  She just turned 18.

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[1Timothy115]

Stirring to me, I appreciate what you're doing. If you have the opportunity I hope you use it. If a woman would pause long enough to listen, and my old memory worked, I would share the story.

[Joe Chandler]

These same people are against capitol punishment. So kill the most innocent for the sake of convenience and pardon the most guilty. Children are an heritage and a reward.