TV Guardian

[HappyChristian]

If we had a tv, we would have a Guardian on it, just for extra protection. When we are around the tv, we do try and keep it on decent shows (not always possible when you're in someone else's home, but family will help us at times. Many times they will shut it off, which is the best choice, so we can visit).

Fact is, I prefer a good book to the tv anyway. We do watch movies - we go to the library or my office and set up there. That is a bit of trouble, so it has to be something really worth the while.

[brosmith]

We are not talking about people - we are talking about movies. God does not treasure Peter's actions, Peter's time of cursing and swearing. We have it recorded (though not actual words) because it was part of the events leading to Jesus' crucifixion and the scattering of the disciples. A movie is a producer's deliberate choice of words and actions - the swearing wasn't something that happened by accident or that the actors' fell into in a moment of weakness/temptation.

Your original comment asked:

What kind of a "treasure" is something in God's eyes when it contains moral defects such as swearing?

My response was:

Human beings are full of moral defects but God stil treasures them. He did not trash Peter when he cursed and swore.

By the way, Peter didn't swear "by accident" or in a moment of "weakness/temptation". He had backslid on God and his swearing (as well as his denial of Christ) was a result of his backsliding.

[Guest Guest]

First off, I don't watch TV. But I have seen some programs at times with others who DO have TV guardians, and they have turned around and told me what the bleeped out words were, so what was the point of the TV guardian? To me TV is a big waste of time at any rate, and the TV guardian won't protect you from things worse than cussing such as the rampant immorality or sexual innuendos that are in most things. People pretend to be spiritual by having a TV guardian and thinking it justifies watching trash.

[brosmith]

People pretend to be spiritual by having a TV guardian and thinking it justifies watching trash.

I am not pretending to be spiritual and we don't watch trash.

[Guest Guest]

I am not sure what the TV Guardian is exactly...except it is a filter for foul language? No? Well...young children aren't really going to be paying attention to a person's mouth actions when speaking (and, what is dubbed out) until they reach a certain age. They begin to realize that when they are pre-adolescent age or teenagers. From my experience with children, unless they are extremely "street wise" they just don't notice those things, IMO. They are interested in the movie or show's plot...rather than looking directly at a person's mouth to see if they are cussing or not. :ideas: This is just merely my observation. :wave:

[Guest Guest]

From my experience with children, unless they are extremely "street wise" they just don't notice those things, IMO. They are interested in the movie or show's plot...rather than looking directly at a person's mouth to see if they are cussing or not. This is just merely my observation.

From what I have seen children, particularly young children, tend to repeat what they hear. If they hear a lot of swearing then they may use it too... I personally don't own a TV and the only place I watch any is at work where at times I may catch some of the news at lunch break... No doubt there are some acceptable things you can watch on TV, I don't condemn those who choose to watch it with discretion, but generally your available choices are bad and worse, either general worldliness or blatant, in your face wickedness. Everyone must make their own decision, but I personally have seen very few TV programs I could picture Jesus Christ watching for enjoyment. God is Holy after all. :2cents

[Guest Guest]

I agree with what you are saying but CHRIST did go to where the sinners were did he not? TV or the WWW was not here at that time but he knew that it would be. We should always stray away from acting like we know what CHRIST would do. He helped, He loved, He understood, He saves and more importantly he died for your sins. (and mine)

[Guest Guest]

I agree with what you are saying but CHRIST did go to where the sinners were did he not? TV or the WWW was not here at that time but he knew that it would be.

Christ went to sinners to help them, he didn't watch their sin for pleasure, he rebuked them for it and instructed them to sin no more. I am not afraid of the world, I am in it every day, but as a ambassador, not as a resident.

We should always stray away from acting like we know what CHRIST would do.

I do know what Christ would do. That is why I have the Holy Spirit within. If you are a Christian, and you are walking in the light, you will know the mind of Christ. Of course, if you are backslidden and have rejected the clear teaching of Christ he is not going to give you more light, you will stumble in darkness without any idea as to the mind of Christ until you get right with him.

He helped, He loved, He understood, He saves and more importantly he died for your sins. (and mine)

True. :Green

[Guest Guest]

Christ went to sinners to help them, he didn't watch their sin for pleasure, he rebuked them for it and instructed them to sin no more. I am not afraid of the world, I am in it every day, but as a ambassador, not as a resident.




I do know what Christ would do. That is why I have the Holy Spirit within. If you are a Christian, and you are walking in the light, you will know the mind of Christ. Of course, if you are backslidden and have rejected the clear teaching of Christ he is not going to give you more light, you will stumble in darkness without any idea as to the mind of Christ until you get right with him.



True. :Green

CHRIST knew there sin before they even knew it. Right? So why would he sit down and get pleasure in it? You sin and if you say you do not you are a liar. So this walk you are talking about is a walk indeed relative to the human that believes in CHRIST as their savior not someone who withholds a theologians standards. Is it not benificial to a ministry if they know what is the stumblingblock to the lost? If we walk around without CHRIST then surely we will fail or fall but CHRIST knew and FELT the sin of you and I so for us to say we should not watch TV because CHRIST would not is wrong. IT is wrong because he already watched it. We have to be equipped to battle satan not dumb founded by what he has done. He is the prince of the air but I got JESUS. WHO YOU GOT LET US HERE LOUD AND PROUD AMEN

[Guest Guest]

So why would he sit down and get pleasure in it?

He didn't. If he did he wouldn't be holy.

We have to be equipped to battle satan not dumb founded by what he has done.

True, but the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.

[Guest Guest]

He didn't. If he did he wouldn't be holy.



True, but the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds.

And not traditions of man.

[Guest Guest]

Hi Seth...Maybe what I said did not come out clear. What I was saying was...is that children will not notice something when it is "dubbed out" if this is what the TV Guardian does. Absolutely, if it is outright cursing...they will repeat exactly what they hear. Children "parrot" everything that they hear whether the language is good or bad. :thumb

[JerryNumbers]

Do people have to say a bad word when the hit their fingernail with a hammer, get their finger caught in a door, stump their toe?

My father was not a church going man, but I never heard him utter one single bad word when he would do such a thing I spoke of above. I don't either.

But if you hang around with people who do, you probably will to. In moments of pain, in moments of excitement, a person will speak their heart.

I know many will refute this and say I don't know what I'm talking about.

I commend Seth, he is trying to keep junk out of his mind, if you don't let it in, it want be there to come out.

Many times our happiness is determined by what we don't do and what we keep out of our minds. We need to gurad our minds.

Mat 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Mat 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

Mat 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Mat 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

Jam 3:8 But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.

Jam 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.

Jam 3:10 Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

I just can't picture Jesus standing in line to pay to go into a movie house to set and watch a movie.
I can't see Him setting and watching many, many TV shows.
I can't see Him reading a romance novel.
I can't picture Him looking thru any of those women magazines.
I can't see Him watching a sporting event where females have much flesh showing, ice skating, tennis, and many more such things.

Ask your self, am I really being Christ like? Them give God an honest answer.

John R. Rice wrote a book back in the 40's or 50's about going to the movies, I have it here somewhere but can't find it. The principles he gave in that book for not watching movies still stand today, and I think it will show you that TV is no better.

We have had so much stuff pushed into our brain that we are so desensitized that we will enjoy watching, reading, or looking at things that should never enter our brains.

[brosmith]

Do people have to say a bad word when the hit their fingernail with a hammer, get their finger caught in a door, stump their toe?

My father was not a church going man, but I never heard him utter one single bad word when he would do such a thing I spoke of above. I don't either.

But if you hang around with people who do, you probably will to. In moments of pain, in moments of excitement, a person will speak their heart.

I agree 100%. Swearing comes from an evil heart.

I just can't picture Jesus standing in line to pay to go into a movie house to set and watch a movie.
I can't see Him setting and watching many, many TV shows.
I can't see Him reading a romance novel.
I can't picture Him looking thru any of those women magazines.
I can't see Him watching a sporting event where females have much flesh showing, ice skating, tennis, and many more such things.

Ask your self, am I really being Christ like? Them give God an honest answer.

John R. Rice wrote a book back in the 40's or 50's about going to the movies, I have it here somewhere but can't find it. The principles he gave in that book for not watching movies still stand today, and I think it will show you that TV is no better.

We have had so much stuff pushed into our brain that we are so desensitized that we will enjoy watching, reading, or looking at things that should never enter our brains.

I agree 100%. That is why we have the TV Guardian. We don't sit around watching filthy TV shows. The ones we choose to watch, if there happens to be a swear word in it, we want to make sure that we don't here the foul language. We don't go to movie theaters or sporting events either.

[JerryNumbers]

I agree 100%. Swearing comes from an evil heart.



I agree 100%. That is why we have the TV Guardian. We don't sit around watching filthy TV shows. The ones we choose to watch, if there happens to be a swear word in it, we want to make sure that we don't here the foul language. We don't go to movie theaters or sporting events either.

A man that lives a few miles west of me, a deacon in the big SBC Church in town, his wife sets in the choir, he and his wife both say many cuss words, it seems that they try hard to out do the other one in the use of foul words. Its really embarrassing to be around them. I often wondered if they both talk like this at church and or when they are around fellow church members and their pastor.

Their church airs their services on our little local TV station, I've seem him say a prayer, its beyond me that he can say a long prayer without the use of the foul words that are within his brain.

Oh how the hypocrites can cover up their wicked ways from many, but never from God.