Goodbye

[Genevanpreacher]

"let's get over it and move on???"

 

Really?

 

No, I cannot "get over" people who persistently promote false doctrine, especially in light of those who consistently demonstrate that they are ignoring, twisting, and wresting the Scriptures to their own destruction.  All they are doing is creating confusion in the hearts and minds of believers.

 

Oh, I better comment.

 

Really? (that's it, that's all I am gonna say...really.)

 

Ok! I might say one more thing...

 

If you think there is 'wresting' from some of us - We don't have to twist anything to show our 'simplistic' style of direct wording of scripture to teach God's word!

 

Your way of teaching is so confusing I had to stop reading the old book you gave reference to, and almost puke, there was so much 'mumbo jumbo' in it.

To me, that is wresting the scriptures.

 

I do not understand what is so 'eye opening' in your way of teaching the Dispensationalist way.

 

Covenant Theology is a new 'teaching' to me, yet as I look at 'what' I have been taught by just reading God's word, over and over and over, etc., I guess that is what I am, in your eyes.

I have no prOBlem with that at all. I didn't study Covenant Theology, I didn't take any Bible courses in schooling, or Church, to teach this to me, I just am.

 

I would never have known it but for this forum.

 

I thought we all took the scriptures the same way. Now I know better.

And I look at what it takes to 'learn' your way of Dispensationalism, and it hurts.

 

I look at what it takes to be 'scriptural', and it is just naturally there in the word of God.

 

And I have to say this also. When in the text of scriptures one can 'see' one people saved one way and another people saved a different way,

(which has been stated on this forum by one's who believe Dispensationalism) warning bells deafen my ears!

 

God did not make his word hard to understand, yet you need books, written by men, to learn what Dispensationalism is.

 

I will stick with God, God's word, and the good old Holy Spirit.

They, alone, do not confuse any child of God.

[Arbo]

I know I don't agree with majority opinion here, but I always seek to present Scripture arguments.

The recent covenant threads look as if they were started to provoke arguments.

Would IFB be better without me? Am I driving genuine folk away?

 
A number of weeks ago, I asked the question if non-IFB types were welcome here.  Though most people seemed tolerant, there were a few who answered in the negative.   If memory serves me correctly, one even left because of our participation on this site.  
 
 
This us-against-them attitude that some openly display is unfortunate.

[Alimantado]

One of the prOBlems in this area is there are some things that are clearly false, but then there are areas without 100% clarity and there may be differing views in those areas. Do we call differing views false teaching or do we reserve the category of false teaching only for those matters which are 100% clear?

 

Best example of this is Swath's second-to-last post on this forum, where >he labelled HappyChristian a heretic for her views on divorce.

[prophet1]

Best example of this is Swath's second-to-last post on this forum, where >he labelled HappyChristian a heretic for her views on divorce.

Right. In this case, he was directly contradictory to Scripture, not allowing for an unsaved partner to leave a saved partner, as is plainly admonished to us.


Anishinaabe

[prophet1]

Where do you get your "theology"?

Do you wait for The Holy Spirit to guide you into truth?

Do you join Paul, or Apollos, or Cephas' camp, and cheerlead for some teacher made of flesh?

Do you read God's Word with a pure heart, allowing Him to show you errors....your own and others'?


Sadly, I have found out later in life, that doctrine I learned from this 'great man' or that, for forty years of IFB preaching, was always sprinkled with error.

Just because the other sects of Christianity are glaringly wrong on some things, doesn't mean we aren't wrong on some as well.

In fact, as I am well traveled in IFB circles, I submit to you that there is no specific set of beliefs among the IFB...

Take Cloud and Hyles, for instance.

Or Spurgeon and the recently departed Fred Phelps.

Compare Roloff with Rice.

ROBerson with Ruckman.

Norris, Vick, with Malone, for that matter.

Try Hudson v Rice v Smith...in a single post, as SOTL editor!

Upstate NY vs. Mississippi.


There is no consensus.

We are left with only God to lead us...and that is just where we are safest.

Anishinaabe

[Invicta]

Another consequence is that people like me, who are trying to learn true doctrine, get confused and discouraged.  How is someone new supposed to know what is acceptable and unacceptable information when both are allowed?

 

You study the bible and not the teachings of men.  If you can't find it in the bible, don't believe it.