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Neither does 69 + 2,000 = 70.

Tribulation Act 14:22 22 Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God. Jn 16:33 33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. Mat 13:21 21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended. Rom 5:3 3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; 2Co 1:3-4 3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort; 4 Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God. 1Th 3:4 4 For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. Rev 7:9 9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white rOBes, and palms in their hands; Rev 7:14 14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their rOBes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Resurrection: Mat 24:29-31 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. 1Th 4:16-17 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God:and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air:and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Rev 20:4-6 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Wrath 1Th 5:9 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to OBtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Rev 6:12-17 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev 14:9-11 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

The point isn't to 'appear relevant', no Christian should be motivated by that sort of vanity. The point is to limit the discussion to the words that can be cross-referenced in the KJV. I'll admit to being coarse on purpose, to make a point, that the meaning of non-Biblical terms is unimportant and a side-track to the actual study of God's Word. If it is too much, then I apologize and will tone down my responses.

Awesome! Except "holies" isn't a word, in English. Holy is an adjective, it isn't expressed as singular or plural, it is modifying a noun or pronoun that would express number. Ex: He is holy They are holy Holy Place The most Holy Place The Holy Lands See? In English, the part of speech being modified carries the burden of expressing number. The same adjective, neutral in number, modifies both singular and plural nouns/pronouns. If correcting English causes division, it is dividing those who care about being correct from those who don't.

For what, paying attention in 5th grade English? But no shame on some woman, for trying to argue doctrine with men? No wonder our churches are a mess.

We are not appointed to wrath. So God will remove us from the Earth prior to pouring out His Wrath. This is where Dispensational Theory departs from Scripture. Mat 24:30-31 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven:and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Rev 6:12-17 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? Rev 20:4-6 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them:and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. Unlike Dispensational "teachers", God can count to two. The first resurrection preceeds the pouring out of Wrath, and occurs after the Tribulation Saints are Martyred. Only The Spirit of God can reveal this to you, through His Word.

Sorry I went over your education level here. 1.Concrete nouns 2.Abstract nouns 1.Persons, places, things 2.Ideas Maybe this simple chart will help. Rapture cant be a concrete noun, and anyone with an education can mock us for our use of it as one. We should care to be correct. The dead in Christ RISE first, so it is a resurrection. It is also the redemption of our bodies. It is not a feeling of euphoria.

So, you've never seen a parrot? Or, you possibly did, but couldn't discern it from a crow, cuz you aren't a parrot? The South called, they want their dufus back. Run along.

What's wrong with "resurrection"? It is a concrete noun. "Rapture" is an idea, like love, joy , peace, etc. It can't be used to mean an event, and God didn't use it to do so. Resurrection is an event, and God did use it. Stop me when I've said something wrong....

I'll use 'The Church of God' as an example: Those who teach that one cannot know that he is saved everlastingly, eternally, until death, are teaching a false gospel and are to be accursed.

Holy is an adjective. There can be no such thing as "Holies". Try using the Scripture, instead of parroting men. The Scripture calls it the "Most Holy Place". The Scripture doesn't use the word "rapture", which in English is an abstract and not a concrete noun, so it couldn't possibly be the name of an event. In fact, by definition, rapture is imagined. Satan has more than one trick up his bejewelled sleeve, and extra-Biblical terms is one of them. You've dashed your foot against a stumbling stone, and fallen into Rome's mire, Brother. Of course, I'll be ridiculed and chided for this post, but, no matter. The children of Light are watching, His sheep hear His voice.

Oh, it seems you dont read the Scripture for yourself, or you would have seen this: 1Th 5:4-5 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day:we are not of the night, nor of darkness. Apparently, you are just parroting others, and can't even read IThes 5- 2Thes 2, or you would know that only the lost will be surprised by this 'thief in the night'. Maybe many of the teachers, like Darby, weren't children of Light, who you parrot second hand. There is not one single hint towards a "Pre-Trib" Resurrection, in the Scripture. Try using the Biblical terms, first of all.

Not rocket science. The tools you're being taught to study Greek with are corrupt. Tomorrow, if you haven't already purchased it, go into the church bookstore and pick up the college textbook on exegesis, go to nearly the end of the intro, and read that the editor used the NIV on cd, to enlighten the exegesis of the Greek of the TR (which no one actually owns a copy of anyways).

Walk into your Church bookstore, pick up the college textbook on exegesis, read the intro where the editor thanks Zondervan for the use of the NIV on CD to aid in his study. Then get back to me on "corrupt".

I noticed that you gave no Scripture to suport your "Jewish evangelist" theory. Could you?