Music In The Independent Baptist Churches

[The Glory Land]

Are contemporary songs and music welcome in your church?

Most of the Independent Baptist Churches sing using hymnals only?

One more question, is it a sin to aloud any type of music into the church?

These questions will help me and others, thank you. 

[irishman]

There has been a recent discussion here about music, it may be helpful.  Look through the categories, it should not be too far down the line.

[Covenanter]

Are contemporary songs and music welcome in your church?

Most of the Independent Baptist Churches sing using hymnals only?

One more question, is it a sin to aloud any type of music into the church?

These questions will help me and others, thank you. 

We're an English Independent baptist church, so I can't speak for "most." You will find that this forum actively discourages CCM and links to such songs on youtube. There are, however, plenty of contemporary songs and music that are Biblical, & hymn style, and would be acceptable to our churches. You will also get forum comments that will totally condemn the use of modern songs.

 

I use modern songs with caution - and play them "straight" using piano or organ register. I do not approve the use of a pop group to lead worship. We use mostly a traditional hymn book. Actually many CCM songs are written by a singer/songwriter and are very difficult to sing without hymn. Guitar interludes and repeats mean that the congregation cannot follow without a strong lead.

 

Are you familiar with the Reformed "regulative principle" which insists on worship being as commanded in NT Scripture? The full application of this leads to singing only Psalms, unaccompanied. The quality of the old Scottish Metrical Psalms - forced into metre is not generally appreciated in Reformed churches, and hymns and Psalm & Scripture paraphrases are widely used.

 

We've recently welcomed people from Pentecostal background into our fellowship. They have expressed appreciation of hymns played simply. It is surprising that many in the church do not know the standard hymns we've been singing for centuries.

[The Glory Land]

My family and I are now attending a Spanish Baptist church again, we were members of a English Baptist church for many years. We have gone back into the Spanish services which are open to all types of Christian music here. We still sing hymnals too. I am still adjusting to the difference in the worship and participating in the music. The youth are also involve in the music ministry, this is where I can see that there is a difference in traditional and contemporary music. We are lousing the youth with hymnals only. They are the future of our true faith and the sharing of the gospel of Christ.

[Covenanter]

My family and I are now attending a Spanish Baptist church again, we were members of a English Baptist church for many years. We have gone back into the Spanish services which are open to all types of Christian music here. We still sing hymnals too. I am still adjusting to the difference in the worship and participating in the music. The youth are also involve in the music ministry, this is where I can see that there is a difference in traditional and contemporary music. We are lousing the youth with hymnals only. They are the future of our true faith and the sharing of the gospel of Christ.

That, of course, is the heart of the problem. We do not want the "future" to come prematurely  by the promotion of youth as worship leaders, etc, before they are taught & understand the true faith. Let the children come in and take over the "music" with their pop groups and you risk losing the mature Christians.

[JerryNumbers]

CCM, no.

 

>Check out this topic.

 

Are you a lover of CCM?

[Seth Doty]

We are lousing the youth with hymnals only. They are the future of our true faith and the sharing of the gospel of Christ.

Your loosing the youth with or without "hymnal only". The only question is what are you loosing them to? My suspicion is that many conservative churches are essentially like the Church at Sardis and loose the youth in part for that reason, however, what they loose them to tends to be either the world outright or Laodicean like churches.  If A Sardis like church is loosing its youth to the world and Laodicean like churches the answer is not become more like the world and Laodicean like Churches, the answer is get right with God, get real, and be something worth having and being rather than being just a empty talking shell. Converting from the church of sardis to the the church of laodicea does no one any good, it just trades one set of problems for another. That is why so often there is a progression in youth that start out in a conservative church, move to a more liberal church, then end up quitting on God and churches all together. They see dead liberalism isn't really any better than dead conservatism and just get to where they don't see anything worth having at all. 

Edited July 13, 2013 by Seth Doty

[ASongOfDegrees]

If their hearts are backslidden then it doesn't matter what music you have in the church so you might as well stick with the "old, boring hymns". Why? Because with those songs you'll be ministering to those who love the Lord instead of trying to use worldly CCM to placate a bunch of backslidders who's hearts have left the church a long time ago. This backslidders will eventually physically leave no matter what music you play. Don't cast your perils to please the swine.

 

I'm not a pastor and never will be but this is how I see it.

 

Oh, maybe let your church decide on if you should have musical instruments or not. Just make sure you keep it in moderation that's all. At the end of the day you are the one who will give account.

[John81]

Being independent, each IFB church sets their own musical standards. Within IFB churches one might find CCM, adapted CCM, hymns (both traditional and new), Southern Gospel (both traditional and new), Bluegrass Gospel, Country, bands, orchestras, various styles of choirs and much etc.

[The Glory Land]

Intersting replys, some feel more angery then others. I am not sure yet about the CCM you guys are talking about, I don't here it.  

[swathdiver]

If it sounds like the music on your local rock station then it's sinful, worldly music and has no place in a New Testament Church.  That's not being angry, that's bible doctrine.

 

If the words are right and yet it causes your torso to move because of the beat, that's sinful music and has no place in a New Testament Church.

 

If the words are right and the music is right and yet was written by a homosexual Catholic man who believes Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians too, that too is sinful and has no place in a New Testament Church.  Again, that's not being mean or angry, it's just bible doctrine.

[JerryNumbers]

No anger,  just don't care for worldly CCM in church.

 

Remember, the liberal SBC is losing members, losing children to, & many of them are very liberal & use CCM.

 

If you want a church full of people just drop God's truths, & especially take the name Baptist off of your Church, & likely you will get them, even many of the younger generation too.

[John81]

If it sounds like the music on your local rock station then it's sinful, worldly music and has no place in a New Testament Church.  That's not being angry, that's bible doctrine.

 

If the words are right and yet it causes your torso to move because of the beat, that's sinful music and has no place in a New Testament Church.

 

If the words are right and the music is right and yet was written by a homosexual Catholic man who believes Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians too, that too is sinful and has no place in a New Testament Church.  Again, that's not being mean or angry, it's just bible doctrine.

Could you explain what you mean by "causes your torso to move"?

[John81]

No anger,  just don't care for worldly CCM in church.

 

Remember, the liberal SBC is losing members, losing children to, & many of them are very liberal & use CCM.

 

If you want a church full of people just drop God's truths, & especially take the name Baptist off of your Church, & likely you will get them, even many of the younger generation too.

One thing I liked about the sermon posted by Pastor Chappell was his continually making the point that in church it's the preaching that is to be of most importance. Nothing, not music or anything else, should be more important than sound biblical preaching.

 

Boldly preach the Word of God, proclaim the whole counsel of God, read aloud the Word of God and trust the Lord for increase in the congregation.

 

A circus can draw a crowd but that certainly doesn't mean we should paint three rings on the platform and employ clowns to draw a crowd.

 

Preach the Word, be in much prayer, rely upon the leading of the Holy Ghost, trust the Lord.

[John81]

Great Is Thy Faithfulness

Amazing Grace

Rock of Ages

Trust and Obey

 

 

Off the top of my head these are the most recent songs we have sang in our church.