Bible - KJV or Modern Version Discussion

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   The Preservation of the Bible

   May 2, 2007 by *Light*

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   The Preservation of the Bible Some people say,"The Bible was God's Word when it was originally given, but since then there have been so many different copies and translations and changes that now we cannot believe anything that it says." Is this true? The evidence given above that the Bible was originally from God is irrefutable; but has it been changed? Is the infallible Word of God available today, or has mankind so twisted it that we now have nothing sure to depend upon? We will consider, first of all, what the Bible promises about its own preservation, and then we will look at its historical verification. What the Bible claims for itself The Preservation of th…

   

   Last reply by Samer, May 2, 2007
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   Is the King James Bible perfect? 1 2 3 4

   April 8, 2007 by Guest Guest

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   Hi everyone. I said on another board that the KJB is perfect. People then proceeded to respond and said that saying the KJB is the best is one thing but to say it is perfect is another and it reduces my credibility. Therefore, I ask, am I the only one who believes the KJB is perfect?

   

   Last reply by IM4given, April 30, 2007
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   What about other languages besides English?

   April 29, 2007 by Guest Guest

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   Hi everyone. What about the other languages besides English? Do they have God's perfect word if it is translated from the textus receptus?

   

   Last reply by Chelle, April 29, 2007
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   Advanced Revelation 1 2 3 4 11

   April 11, 2007 by Guest Guest

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   There is advanced revelation in the KJV that wasn't in the TR. *Mod note: this is a split from other threads*

   

   Last reply by PeterAV, April 26, 2007
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   Conditional and Unconditional Covenants

   April 24, 2007 by lettheredeemedsayso

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   I believe it would be beneficial to address the covenants God makes with man both conditional and unconditional. Often times these are misinterpreted.

   

   Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, April 24, 2007
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   The NIV's Got Ghosts! 1 2

   April 10, 2007 by Jerry

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   We had a staff meeting today at the Gospel Mission, and the message was based on Luke 24. The Director quoted this verse in the NIV: Luke 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have. This is what the KJV has: Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. A spirit is a creature without a body - not necessarily something that has died. God is a Spirit, angels are spirits, and those in Heaven are referred to as the spirits of just men made perfect. Here Jesus is stating that a spirit does not have a body,…

   

   Last reply by Kubel, April 21, 2007
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   What does this verse mean?

   April 18, 2007 by lettheredeemedsayso

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   What do you think this verse means? I am relatively sure I know what it means but I would like to hear what you have to say. 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

   

   Last reply by manofconviction, April 20, 2007
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   What is wrong with the NKJV Bible? 1 2

   April 14, 2007 by Christian1stBaptist2nd

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   I want to understand why you think the NKJV isn't a good Bible?

   

   Last reply by JJJ4given, April 16, 2007
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    Ink and Blood Exhibit

    April 10, 2007 by IM4given

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    There is a traveling museum Exhibit called "Ink and Blood" - I have seen it with my own eyes and I haven't been the same since! Amazing! Awesome! Miraculous! Until the exhibit I considered myself "King James Preferred" but after viewing that amazing exhibit I was moved by the Holy Spirit to become a "King James Only" person! It is now at the Museum of Idaho. If you are anywhere near there, please go and see this exhibit! You won't be disappointed! http://www.inkandblood.com/exhibit/exhi ... ifacts.php

    

    Last reply by Bear, April 14, 2007
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    God's Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible

    April 13, 2007 by John81

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    Has anyone here read this book: God's Secretaries: The Making of the King James Bible I've heard this is a good book but I would like to know if anyone here knows about this book before I decide whether to buy the book or not.

    

    Last reply by John81, April 13, 2007
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    Any Reasons Why Some Don't Like Strong's Concordance? 1 2 3 4

    April 11, 2007 by Jerry

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    I was reading some older threads tonight, and I found one where at least two people knocked Strong's Concordance, without listing any reasons. I was wondering what problems people had with it? The only two problems I have found with it are: Defining Lucifer as Venus, the morning star. Though considering that his definition was approximately 2400 years later, it is very possible now that the word Hellel IS associated with Venus - but that doesn't mean it was in Isaiah's time, nor that the passage anywhere contains that meaning. In fact, it is the more liberal translations that are trying to blur the line between the Morning Star and Lucifer, containing cross-references…

    

    Last reply by PeterAV, April 12, 2007
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    Would reading the original manuscripts be just as good?

    April 6, 2007 by Guest Guest

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    Hi everyone. Would reading the original manuscripts (the ones that the KJV was translated from) be just as good as reading the KJV itself or would it be better to read the KJV? Please explain the reasoning for your answer.

    

    Last reply by kevinmiller, April 11, 2007
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    Problem with Passage Matt 9:17 in KJV 1 2 3

    November 22, 2006 by cbailey

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    [color=green]Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.[/color] - Matthew 9:17 KJV Why does the KJV translate [i]askos[/i] as bottle? It takes all the sense out of the passage... Help please!

    

    Last reply by Jerry, April 11, 2007
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    Acts 24:6-8 Inspired Scripture? or the NIV can't count right 1 2

    April 7, 2007 by brandplucked

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    Acts 24:6-8 Are these verses inspired Scripture or do the NIV editors not know how to count? In the King James Bible we read of the high priest and the elders of Israel accusing the apostle Paul before Herod's judgment hall. Among the things they accuse Paul of are these words: 24: 6 "Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, AND WOULD HAVE JUDGED ACCORDING TO OUR LAW. 24:7 BUT THE CHIEF CAPTAIN LYSIAS CAME UPON US, AND WITH GREAT VIOLENCE TOOK HIM AWAY OUR OF OUR HANDS, 24:8 COMMANDING HIS ACCUSERS TO COME UNTO THEE: by examining of whom thyself mayest take knowledge of all these things, whereof we accuse him." All the capitalized words are found …

    

    Last reply by Calvary, April 10, 2007
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    King James Onlyism: A New Sect 1 2 3

    March 30, 2007 by John81

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    Has anyone read this book? King James Onlyism: A New Sect by James D Price I'm encountering those who are KJB-preferred and KJB-also who say this book destroys the reasoning used to support being KJB only. I read a review of the book and it's supposed to be written in a kindly manner and thoroughly researched and thoroughly biblical. My main question is: Is there a thorough response to what this book says? The book is over 600 pages long and costs about 40 dollars. I don't have the time or money to invest in this book right now so I am hoping someone else has read it or knows where more information in this area can be found.

    

    Last reply by chev1958, April 9, 2007
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    Romans 8:16 1 2

    March 23, 2007 by kaiserMac

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    This verse was brought to my attention by a MV person. What is your take on this and why did they use "itself" and not "himself" Ro 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: Ro 8:16 The Spirit himself (auto to pneuma). The grammatical gender of pneuma is neuter as here, but the Greek used also the natural gender as we do exclusively as in Joh 16:13 ekeinos (masculine he), to pneuma (neuter). See also Joh 16:26 (ho--ekeinos). It is a grave mistake to use the neuter "it" or "itself" when referring to the Holy Spirit. Beareth witness with our spirit (summarturei tôi pneumati hêmôn). Cmt. on Ro 2:15 for this verb with ass…

    

    Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, April 6, 2007
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    What did you have to do to be considered a propeht?

    March 30, 2007 by lettheredeemedsayso

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    In scripture what qualities or criteria did a man have to be to possess to be considered a prophet. Please give scripture to support your answer.

    

    Last reply by obmember, April 6, 2007
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    Question about James 5:14 1 2

    March 31, 2007 by Guest Guest

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    How does James 5:14 describe how the elders (presbyters, priests) dealt with the sick? What did they use to help the sick? Does the faith community you're involved with do this? If not, why not?

    

    Last reply by John the Baptist, April 5, 2007
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    The Bible's Underlying Texts 1 2

    March 31, 2007 by Will

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    The Byzantine Text Family This text family is so called because it is characterized by Byzantine style font. Most of the manuscripts composing this text family were collected and recorded by the Orthodox Church(ie, Greek Orthodox) for many centuries. The Byzantine Text Family makes up around 95% of the manuscripts that we presently have available. The Alexandrian Text Family The manuscripts that make up this text family stem from Alexandria, Egypt althought not all are directly from there. They were created with a different font, known as "Unicals." This text family composes around 5% of all NT manuscripts available. The Western Text Family This text family is larg…

    

    Last reply by Guest, April 2, 2007
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    Biblical and/or Factual Basis 1 2

    March 26, 2007 by kevinmiller

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    Since we have several rabbit-trail debates going on about the KJV, I figured I would post these questions here without anything else to distract in the hope that they might be answered. To the hard core KJVO's: 1. What Biblical basis is there for the KJV? 2. What factual basis is there for the KJV? 3. Where was the Bible before 1611? Thanks. P.S. No circumstantial evidence please.

    

    Last reply by kevinmiller, March 31, 2007
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    Psalm 46:9-10 and the bogus bibles 1 2

    March 25, 2007 by brandplucked

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    Psalm 46:9-10 King James Bible - "He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth THE CHARIOT in the fire. BE STILL, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth." "He burneth the CHARIOT in the fire." The word here for "chariot" is 5699 gagah-lah, and is variously translated in the KJB as "chariot, wagon, or cart." "He burneth the CHARIOT IN THE FIRE" is the reading found in the following Bible translations: Coverdale 1535, Bishops' Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1599, the Revised Version 1881, American Standard Version 1901, RSV 1952, NKJV 1982, ESV 2001,…

    

    Last reply by Jerry, March 31, 2007
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    John 5:3-4 Is it Scripture? 1 2 3 4 6

    March 11, 2007 by brandplucked

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    John 5:3-4 The Troubling of the Water - Is it Scripture? Many modern versions and some

    

    Last reply by chev1958, March 25, 2007
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    Take the KJV only challenge 1 2 3 4

    March 15, 2007 by TheBibleSender

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    I found this tonight http://timothysburden.com/2006/12/08/th ... challenge/ and thought others might be intereted in taking this challenge. God bless. :)

    

    Last reply by heartstrings, March 23, 2007
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    I need a title for a Bible study I did with a friend

    March 16, 2007 by anime4christ

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    I need a title for a Bible study/devotional that I did with a friend of mine. The main verse I focus on is Matthew 24:12 (though I quote verses 3-12). It's basically about how the end times might affect our love towards God and people and it is a calling for Christians to check themselves and to pray our loves grows during these difficult times. I need to get it done ASAP and get it in this week (3 days left if u count today), but I just can't think of a good title. I'm just bad at titles (eg. it took me a long time to come up with "anime4christ"). I was thinking about something along the lines of "How the End Times Affect Our Love", but that only covers half of the dev…

    

    Last reply by anime4christ, March 22, 2007
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    Higher Criticism

    March 19, 2007 by lettheredeemedsayso

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    What do you think of Higher Criticism? Do you have any good reference material to support your stand?

    

    Last reply by lettheredeemedsayso, March 20, 2007