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  1. 8 points
    weary warrior

    Starting Again

    We have arrived in Washington and have begun service in the church here. This last Sunday was our first Sunday, and the Lord blessed. The church has been running a steady attendance of 6 regular people for months. We had 14 here Sunday, including my son and I and 6 visitors. and there was an easy liberty to preach. I preached a short, simple message from Luke 8 on the woman who touched the hem of Christ's garment, contrasting her with all of the throng who was jostling Jesus, but never did "touch" Him. I just wanted to update everyone, and ask for continued prayes
  2. 7 points

    Merry Christmas to all.

    Over here we are about to head into the last bit of Christmas eve, so I want to wish you all a merry Christmas. Argue all you like about the terminology, the day, the date, the theology, etc, but I mean it in the simplest and nicest sense. Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night.
  3. 7 points

    What happened in church today?

    We have only two little girls coming to Sunday School at this point. They knew nothing much about the Bible before they started attending. So I've been very careful about how I present salvation to them. And I've been praying quite a bit in the last few weeks for them. Well, Sunday morning the oldest girl accepted Christ as her Savior!! We were near the end of our lesson. The Bible stories have all been about the life of Christ. I also teach a practical application story. This past Sunday I divided the story of George Washington Carver in half and told it in Sunday School and Jr Church. Part of the story was how GWC was redeemed for a race horse when he'd been kidnapped by Night Riders. So I spent some time explaining what redeemed meant. At the end of the story, he, of course, died. But while on his death bed, he ruminated about Jesus preparing a place for him. That's when she spoke up and said she wanted to accept Jesus as her Savior. While her initial reason was to be able to be in Heaven with Jesus and have fun with Him when she dies, she did understand about sin. I told her she could, but that she would need to do it herself. I did not want to do what so many do and pray a prayer for her to repeat (not saying that's a wrong approach, but I strongly felt it was the wrong approach with her). She got up from her seat and went over to the empty area of the room and got on her knees. She prayed, told God she was sorry for her sins (something I had NEVER mentioned needed to be said...) and asked to be saved. Woo-hoo! During snack afterward, I told folks she had an announcement. She told them that she took Jesus as her Savior. And that was the wording she used to tell two other people that day. So very exciting! I told her that now that she was saved, she needed to learn all she can about the Lord, and how He wants her to come to church and invite others. She said, "He does?" So we'll see if she can start inviting others to come. Anyway, that is a direct answer to prayer! I was also concerned that her younger sister would want to "get saved" just because the older was. But she didn't even blink. That, also, is an answer to prayer. As the Lord continues to work, I believe she will get saved.
  4. 7 points
    weary warrior

    They Dont Know

    I think there are things that most church members just dont really know or understand about pastoring and preaching. And we ourselves often cant clarify it for them. For instance, I am completely exhausted after preaching. Body, soul and spirit, I am completely pored out. I am not a screamer or a "windsucker" kind of preacher, but I am passionate, focused and "all in" when I preach. I usually feel like I just finished digging ditches for 8 hours, except digging ditches doesnt drain me spiritualy and emotionally. Add to that 1 1/2 hours of picking up kids before church from the surrounding farm communities, rushing in at the last minute to lead the singing, preaching, then fellowshiping and looking out for visitors during the meal after the service, and then the 1 1/2 hours taking kids home, I'm whipped. I know sometimes I probably seem a bit unsociable or remote after about 3:00pm on Sunday. But I can only hope people understand. Im never unkind or discourteous, just...wore out. I dont think thats something we can define for those who havent experienced it.
  5. 7 points
    weary warrior


    The name or title "reverend" only appears 1 time in all of scripture. Psa 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend ishis name. The only time it is used is as a name for God. He is the "revered one" if you will. So I can't help but wonder how we, the humble servants of God, can have the temerity to refer to ourselves, or let others refer to us, as "Reverend". We are not ever to be "revered ones", but humble servants who lead the church in grace and humility and truth by our example.
  6. 7 points
  7. 7 points

    Meeting Friends IRL

    We were blessed today with meeting 2bLikeJesus and his wife today. They visited our services and then we went out for lunch. Sweet fellowship, good food, and godly friends. Always a good mixture. From left to right is my mom, Josh, Randy, me, Laurel, and Garry.
  8. 7 points
    OLD fashioned preacher

    What an Opportunity

    My wife was just showing me a photo and text from a missionary couple we've known for around 30 years. They had the opportunity to meet, talk with, witness to, and leave a tract with the King and Queen of Nigeria.
  9. 6 points

    Announcement of impending physical death

    Dear brothers and sisters in Christ: I apologize for my lengthy absence from Online Baptist. The past year has been quite difficult and I'd not had the energy to spend the time here I'd hoped. As the Lord permitted, I was given strength to write articles for a Christian publication ("Rapture Ready") for over the last 2-3 years, and spent what energy I had on that. I also have been away so long I had no idea where to post this, nor under what topic. So please forgive me if I erred. My photo from before has disappeared as well, and I likely didn't upload a replacement properly either. The news I have to share today is that the time has come not to say "good-bye", but to say: "We'll meet in heaven." I have stage four cancer. I'm not going to pursue chemo nor radiation (etc.), but have instead signed on for Hospice. The cancer has spread to lymph nodes and bone (likely other places as well). At least one tumor has also spread to to local areas (invasively) and is inoperable. It would only prolong the suffering to try any attempts at chemo (etc.) at this point. It's urethral cancer, which is not only rare, but also extremely aggressive. So there isn't much time left. No doctor can give an exact time-line. But the oncologist said 5 months would be the absolute maximum. Honestly? I can't see it being more than a month, maybe two at most (just my opinion - going on how miserable I am and how quickly it's spreading and tumors are enlarging and manifesting here and there). But the Lord alone knows. His will be done. I do so appreciate prayer. However, I humbly request that none would pray for healing; but instead pray "God's will be done". And if you would, please pray for pain relief and continual relief of pain. I also request that you'd pray for the Lord's comfort for my family and dearest friends during this time. Very much appreciated. Although I'm saddened that this is hard for my parents, children, grandchildren, and dear friends; I think most of them understand that I'm not (personally) sad about the prognosis. As most know, I've had primary progressive MS, spinal cord disease (syringomyelia) and myriad other health issues for over a decade. Life has been an "existence" for many years. One I appreciated still, but was often very painful and difficult. I've been house-bound and bed-bound for several years now. I am looking forward to a release from the pain and suffering in this life, and anticipating the fulfillment of promises God has made in His word for eternity to come for those who've trusted and believed on Jesus for salvation. Please don't pity me in the least. "...I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Tim.1:12). God has given me the "peace that passeth understanding" (Phil.4:7) and keeps my heart and mind through Christ Jesus. I also have the firm comfort and assurance of the pre-trib rapture, wherein all church/grace-age believers will meet the Lord in the air. The "dead in Christ shall rise first", then those who are "alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The Lord will soon give church/grace-age believers incorruptible bodies just like Jesus own glorified body (1 John 3:2; Phil.3:20-21; 1 Cor.15:49-53; 1 Thes.4:13-18; et al) at the rapture. While some brethren here may disagree with this doctrine, I am fully convinced of the scriptural surety that the rapture is indeed pre-tribulational. And that Jesus has promised to deliver us from the wrath to come (1 Thes.1:10, 5:1-9; Rom.5:9). So also do I know that scripture proves the rapture to be imminent (nothing need proceed the timing). However, I also believe the rapture is now much more than imminent, but also must soon occur, as much of end time Bible prophecy is aligned in stunning accuracy. I would never dare set date. Yet we are given to know and discern the season which we are now in. Brethren and sisters, I do believe that the rapture is so near that should I physically die first, I do believe all in Christ will soon be raptured and we will all meet together in the air. I very much appreciate the fellowship and past discussion here on OB. So many dear brethren and sisters have touched my life, edified me, and I count you all a blessing. Continue on serving the Lord, knowing that our labor is not in vain in the Lord, and that His word does not return void. Much love, See you soon. Maranatha!!!
  10. 6 points

    Happy Australia Day

    Happy Australia Day everyone! 26th January 1788 is the day the First Fleet arrived at Sydney Cove. 11 ships 1400 people, and an evangelical preacher called Richard Johnson, who brought with him 4200 bibles. He preached from Psalm 116: 12, 13 12 What shall I render unto the LORD for all his benefits toward me? 13 I will take the cup of salvation, and call upon the name of the LORD. The first Christian message preached on Australian shores was from this passage, by a man who refused to preach good works (when ordered by the governor), instead preaching of salvation by grace through faith.
  11. 6 points
    weary warrior

    Starting Again

    Well, after 10 years since the last one, we've accepted a request to take a pastorate of a little church in Washington State 40 miles south of Spokane. They've been looking for a pastor with "callused hands and muddy boots" who can relate to the farmers, ranchers and working men of the area. When they first contacted me back in June, we turned down the offer, not feeling we were up to it. But they never found a pastor they were looking for, and we never found the ministry we were looking for. So when they came back around again last month, we accepted after much prayer. I'm taking off with a truck and u-haul here in about 3 days for the 2500 mile trip out there. I have no support, no job and no salary waiting. (The church has shrunk to a congregation of...6). We are not worried at all, but are excited to see what God does. Our plan? To simply preach straight truth, pray much prayers and love unlovable people. Beyond that, it's in God's hands.
  12. 6 points
    Jer 10:1 Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: That was spoken to Israel, and it refers to worshipping false gods/idols/graven images that were crafted from the wood of the tree by a "workman". For example... Isa 44:13-17 13 The carpenter stretcheth out his rule; he marketh it out with a line; he fitteth it with planes, and he marketh it out with the compass, and maketh it after the figure of a man, according to the beauty of a man; that it may remain in the house. 14 He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it. 15 Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto. 16 He burneth part thereof in the fire; with part thereof he eateth flesh; he roasteth roast, and is satisfied: yea, he warmeth himself, and saith, Aha, I am warm, I have seen the fire: 17 And the residue thereof he maketh a god, even his graven image: he falleth down unto it, and worshippeth it, and prayeth unto it, and saith, Deliver me; for thou art my god. Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good. ...and there is the proof that these false gods/idols/graven images...which couldn't move on their own, couldn't do evil on their own, nor could do good on their own...were being worshipped. It's not about the tree; it's about what is crafted from the tree...aka...false gods/idols/graven images. I personally don't know anyone who decorates a Christmas tree with actual silver and gold (that is what the verse says after all), nor do I know anyone who bows down and worships a Christmas tree...praying that it won't move on its own and sneak into their bedroom at night, pleading to it not to bring evil upon them, or petitioning it to bestow good favor upon them.
  13. 6 points
    weary warrior

    Starting Again

    Went from 14 people last Sunday to 23 today. Had fully half of the high school wrestling team from the local public school present. And not one person is someone I myself have met and invited to church. No drums, electric guitars etc, no give-aways, no programs, no contests. The highest attendance this church has seen in the last 8 years was 14, and that was last Sunday. I don't know what God is doing, but He's the one doing it. All I can do is remain faithful, preach the truth, love these people and hang on for the ride. It's a testament to God's faithfulness that He is rewarding the faithfulness of the tiny group of 6 that have held on here for so long. I'm really feeling undeservedly blessed today.
  14. 6 points

    Why Don't Baptist Fast

    Quite frankly, the title of this thread is misleading and somewhat deceitful. The title implies that Baptists do not fast and therefore Baptists are not spiritual and do not obey the admonition to fast. This is one of the reasons why I have never commented on this thread the years that I have been on Online Baptist. In other words, the title of this thread already insinuates that "Baptists" do not fast which is an error. Quite a few "Baptists" do fast; they just don't tell everyone about it. Why? The Lord Jesus said, "Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face; That thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father, which seest in secret, shall reward thee openly." Matthew 6:16-18 Normally, when I fast, and I am a Baptist, only my wife knows as she cooks the food I would normally eat and maybe the children. 'nuff said.
  15. 5 points

    Social Distancing

    I'm a Baptist. I've been teaching my daughters social distancing from boys for a long time time now. lol
  16. 5 points

    An apology

    Okay, so when I posted the articles concerning David Cloud, the Australian church, and the issue of the timing of the rapture, I did not intend for it to go where it did, though out of experience, I should have seen that happening. My intention was just to put forth whether the timing of the rapture should be considered a fundamental of the faith, and a matter of separation and heresy. Yes, it was a disagreement with David Cloud's position, but it was not meant in any ways to disparage him and his ministry, a ministry that I have used often, and do to this day. But yes, it was a disagreement. That said, I wish to apologize to those who saw my comments as being disparaging to him, or to them, and also apologize for allowing myself to run back into the argument over the particulars; such wasn't my intention, and those whom I have offended or angered, I apologize-there are some subjects that I know, from my own feelings about them, that I ought to leave unsaid, especially as a moderator. So consider the subject closed and done. If anyone wishes to speak more in detail on it, or has further argument with me, please let me know privately and we can do it as brethren in Christ. Again, I am sorry for the unintended contention I began.
  17. 5 points
    According to a reliable source: the whale died of indigestion. The SPCA arrested Jonah and was fined for cruelty to an animal.
  18. 5 points
    I love the way you mischaracterise the literal interpreter so that you can then discredit them. That is what is called a "Straw man argument". The literal interpreter takes the literal interpretation unless there is a reason to take it otherwise. The reason could be a literary mechanism, such as when the Bible uses the term "like", which indicates that something is not the literal stated item but is "like" it. Mat 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: Not an actual dove, but "like a dove". Or it might be where the context clearly indicates a literal interpretation is not intended. Mat 3:7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Jesus was not saying the Pharisees and Saducees were actually descended from snakes....... The ones leaning to their own understanding are the symbolisers. They decide what the symbols mean based on nothing more than their desires to find a particular interpretation or doctrine. Of course there are some literalists who do the same, but the safest way is to let the Bible tell us clearly what is literal and what is symbolic, and that lies with the literal interpretation. The point is that the literalist will accept symbolic meaning not at a whim as you suggest, but when it is clearly indicated, and will them interpret that symbol within the context of the passage. The symboliser takes whatever he wants as symbolic when it fits his purpose and then interprets it to mean what fits best with his doctrine. One is clearly not relying on the words of the Bible to define symbolic and literal.
  19. 5 points
    weary warrior

    Starting Again

    We had a NY's fellowship last night here at the church, with games and finger food planned. Well, instead of just the core 10 church members showing up, 34 people arrived. People I had never met before. Including about 10 teenagers from town who are totally unchurched and unsaved. I spent the entire evening policing. Don't get me wrong, everyone had a great time, although the carpet in the fellowship hall may never recover. When everything was done, and all were gone, I found myself upstairs in my office at about 12:30am this morning praying. There had been no preaching, no evangelism, no "church". I had no plan or desire to provide a teen shelter, I'm not interested in intertainment or compromising for numbers. This was soooo outside of my comfort zone and realm of experience. As I prayed, trembling at my desk before God, fearful that I had somehow, unwittingly begun a path that would ultimately weaken and cheapen the church and the gospel, I was compelled to randomly flip open my Bible that was laying there in front of me. It fell open to Hosea 6:6, "I will have mercy and not sacrifice..." The Spirit gave me great comfort as I sat there in that chair, assuring me that these lost, cussing, promiscuous kids (and adults) need to be loved too, and that it's not their job to come to where we are, it's our job to go into the gutter and meet them where they are. With mercy. So yeah, the carpet downstairs may never recover. Words were said in the church building that ought not be said anywhere (yes, they were gently corrected). Public displays of affection were ended with a word and a look by me, teens were run back inside from the dark parkinglot and I ended the night a nervous wreck. A joyful, amazed, exhausted nervous wreck. (Kids are not my thing) A number of people have said they will difinitely be in church Sunday because of last night, a service which is held upstairs, which does produce the truth and gospel without reserve, without compromise. So, in the end, I left my study fully at peace, went to bed and slept like an exhausted baby.
  20. 5 points
    Ah, but this report is wherein the incorrect estimation lies. Actually, some Christians have Christmas trees "in spite of Jeremiah 10" because they do NOT believe that Jeremiah 10:1-16 is talking about Christmas trees, but that it is talking about idols formed and carved from trees. They are not seeking to stand in stubborn disobedience against the Lord. Rather, they simply do not believe that this passage at all reveals our Lord's viewpoint concerning Christmas trees, but only His viewpoint concerning idols. They believe this because of the statements made throughout the WHOLE context of Jeremiah 10:1-16 -- "Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel: Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. They [the heathen people] deck it with silver and with gold; they [the heathen people] fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold] are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold] must needs be borne, because they [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold] cannot go. Be not afraid of them [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold]; for they [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold] cannot do evil, neither also is it in them [the things made from the trees, decked with silver and gold] to do good. Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might. Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee. But they [the heathen people] are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock [the thing made from the tree, decked with silver and gold] is a doctrine of vanities. Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their [the things made from the trees] clothing: they [the things made from the trees] are all the work of cunning men. But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation. Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens. He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion. When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures. Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them [in the graven image made from the tree]. They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish. The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The LORD of hosts is his name." Take notice of the word "vain" in verse 3, the word "vanities" in verse 8, and the word "vanity" in verse 15, which all help to tie this entire context together. Certainly, I agree that there is much hypocrisy within the Fundamentalist movement; and it grieves my heart deeply. (Although it is also likely that there is yet such hypocrisy within my own heart to which I remain blind.) However, when we Biblically assess the position of others on a matter, it behooves us to do so with as precise accuracy as possible. (There, I have finally contributed to this thread discussion.)
  21. 5 points

    The beauty of creation

    Sunset tonight at Point Preston.
  22. 5 points
    Jesus said that the only sin which cannot be forgiven is the "blasphemy of the Holy Ghost". So to say that homosexuals or effeminates cannot be saved is quite frankly a lie of the Devil. The Bible plainly mentions "abusers of themselves with mankind" and (speaking to Christians) says "and such were some of you". Now a Homosexual or effeminate who has blasphemed the Holy Ghost; that is, of course, a different story, they sin their "day of grace" away as anyone else doing the same. As to a "reprobate mind", this is a morally corrupt mind. But God does not "make" a person think, say or do wicked things. People cultivate that stuff themselves. When God stops pleading with one's heart, He then "leaves them to their own devices" so to speak. That is what "giving them over to a reprobate mind" means.
  23. 5 points
    Meekness is not weakness. Meekness is power under control. This is why Scripture describes Jesus as meek; He certainly had the power, but He also had it under control. As to the effeminate issue I cannot speak to it, I have never seen it in a church setting, only in the world in general. Perhaps it would be profitable for you to stop "church hopping" and find a church home to settle in to.
  24. 5 points
    The foundation for truth is NOT human logic. The foundation for truth is BIBLICAL REVELATION!!! Human logic is the foundation for human philosophy; and if an individual is not careful, human philosophy will lead astray. Human logic (just as human emotion) is of value WHEN it is sanctified by the Holy Spirit; HOWEVER, human logic is NOT the FOUNDATION for truth. In fact, when it is not sanctified by the Holy Spirit, human logic (as well as human emotion) will be faulty and corrupt, and will thus lead into error. Those who have full assurance of faith in the Lord our God will believe the revelation of God's Holy Word specifically because GOD INSPIRED it, not because they were able to "logic it out."
  25. 5 points

    Jordan & Alicia Kurecki

    It was a joy to have @Jordan Kurecki preach and present his work for us. It was good to to finally meet him after knowing him online for a few years. I want to encourage all you pastors out there to give him a call and have him present his work in your church, you will be blessed. Thank you Brother for coming to our small church and being a help to our people.
  26. 5 points

    Thank You!

    I just wanted to thank the moderators here on Online Baptist for the fine work that all of them have done behind the scenes in making Online Baptist the best Independent, KJV, Baptist Forum .
  27. 5 points

    People quoting heretics.

    Paul didn't simply quote a philosopher or poet and leave it at that (which is what is common to do on fb), he used those quotes to gain the attention of the audience who would be familiar with the source material, then used that to show them the error of worldly wisdom and the truth of God's wisdom. They were basically sermon illustrations which he used in such a way that the listeners would understand the gospel. He did not use the quotes in support of the author or the original intent, he always turned them around and pointed towards Christ. So in this sense, it would be misleading to say something like "Paul quoted pagan poets" and not mention why he did so. Otherwise it would make it seem like Paul quoted them in support of their philosophical outlook on life, which is clearly not the case. When specifically speaking of sharing quote memes on fb, it's very common for people to just slap a nice sounding quote on a pretty background and share it, which is then shared by many others, without thinking/caring about who said it or what it might really mean.
  28. 5 points

    The beauty of creation

    Having a short break away for the week, in a house in the South West of Western Australia - mid winter here, so a light rain, around 18° C, so cool but perfect for sitting on the verandah, and retreating to the wood fire when it cools more. (I hope the short video works) 20190724_090703.mp4
  29. 5 points

    The beauty of creation

    Well, this is a thread about the beauty of creation, right? My guys are pretty handsome, and there are some nice trees in the background. This was taken on Father's Day. The second year in a row we've been able to spend it with our son, after many years without him.
  30. 5 points
    The problem with aligning to those terms is how they are defined by those groups. They don't mean what you mean when you say "Totally Depraved", or "perserverance" as a couple of examples.
  31. 5 points
    The KJV has absolutely no indication that the account of the rich man and Lazarus was a dream in any way. It is stated as a factual, real event experienced personally by these two men.
  32. 5 points
    Sorry, but Jesus didn't say, "And, as he slept, he dreamed that he was in Hell and this is what he went through..." Nope. He said, "And in Hell, he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence." Nowhere in that passage, neither before, during, nor after, does Christ mention anything about a dream. As you've quoted from several scriptures, when someone is dreaming, God makes it clear. What is clear in Luke is that the conscious rich man awoke in Hell. In torment. Not in a nightmare. In eternity.
  33. 5 points

    "This is Our Deed to the Land."

    The land of Israel is firmly established by a written Covenant, the Bible, to the physical, descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob: the Jews. The Israeli Ambassador, the Honourable Danny Danon, explains it very plainly when, after quoting Genesis 17:7 & 8, he said, while holding up the Bible, "This is the deed to our land."
  34. 4 points

    Dear Any Godly Pastor

    Dear Any Godly Pastor Dear Pastor... I am old enough to be your mom! However! I'm NOT too old and I don't have so much more experience in life that I cannot continue to learn. What a blessing it is to hear the instruction of the Word. I have not grown so strong, so knowledgeable, or so wise that I no longer need comfort, encouragement, edification, exhortation, admonition, reproof, rebuke, and correction in righteousness. You see - it never gets old or tiresome to hear the Word with listening ears, ready to receive with an open heart, a message that the Lord has filled your heart with to preach. I sincerely believe that every Spirit-filled message is for me to hear as I run my race hungering and thirsting after righteousness; for I ought to pay attention to every word that has proceeded out of the mouth of God. God's Words and instructions are all given in the best interests of my heart. Pastor, it's a thing of awe to know that each week, though unseen by me, the Lord is preparing, teaching, convicting, and guiding you with messages of truth - that our God wants you to impart to our precious little church. The messages that the Spirit gives, are so very vital to the encouragement that I need, as I desire to walk with Him so as I ought to walk. What a joy it is, Pastor, to empty ourselves of ourselves, that the Lord can fill our hearts with exactly what we need and when we need it. I've learned to recognize that selfishness fills me with misery, and a void of contentment. Pride has a way of chewing me up and spitting me out and trampling me under my very own feet. It is futile to do anything in and of myself - ooooooh, how great a thing it is to welcome the instruction from His Word which indeed brings joy and peace, love and contentment! Long ago when my children were but babes, I kept a diary of heartfelt thoughts for them. I dearly wanted to encourage them to come to the understanding that it is wise to accept instruction, and to welcome it along with any discipline necessary, as a means of protection all the days of our lives. I wanted them to see that the Word itself, Jesus, was given to us coupled with any chastisement, because He loves us - and that He truly is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. So long ago, I wanted my children to begin to understand the importance that correction in righteousness is. For the sake of simplicity and illustration at the time, any godly reproof that we may be the recipients of - could be pictured as like going down a narrow road with precipices on either side, but that the Word of God is as "bumpers or guard rails" that help keep us from "derailing and going off track". I wanted them to understand the importance of living in obedience to the Word with a broken and contrite spirit and heart, and that by so-doing, keeps us on our toes, aware, alert, and with the desire striving to grow in Him in progressive sanctification. Pastor, I pray for you all throughout the week - I suppose like a momma would pray for her son. I pray that the Lord would teach you just what you need to know, with the love and power needed, in order to impart to us what He has given to you. I pray that you are filled with His Spirit as you study, as you learn, and as you prepare to preach to us. I cannot articulate the words to describe the blessing and joy it is to hear you preach; for it is easy to lose sight of you, the man preaching, and see that is is Christ through you speaking to me. I praise the Lord for your sensitivity to the Spirit, and your active fear of the Lord. It's a wondrous thing to see your testimony of pure religion; blameless, spotless, and without wrinkle. I'm sure that you must get discouraged at times, when it seems that the congregation is dull of hearing, and it's difficult to see lives being transformed. Surely there must be times that you would throw your hands up with the feelings of despair and burden. But, Pastor! When those times come, please remind yourself that there's a little ole lady - pretty much unseen, doesn't fit in with most of the others, but is doing the very best possible to be attentive to the Spirit working - being available and desiring to receive the Word and that it would pierce my heart. I'm so very glad that though I may be "nobody" on this earth, that I am yet still very much "somebody" to my Saviour! I desperately need to hear from my God, and I am so glad and joyous that you are availing yourself to Him as a vessel meet for His use. Carry on, Pastor, carry on! In serving Him, you serve us. Someone once so wisely said that - "A good leader is first a good follower of God". Continue to take up your cross and walk on in Him. The "momentum" in Him, lightens the heaviness that a man of God, a man after God's own heart, is so often burdened with. Just think! By God's mercies, we have the privilege, blessing, pleasure, and joy to present ourselves as living sacrifices because of our love for Him; yes - holy and acceptable unto God. It truly is reasonable for us to give ourselves, losing ourselves, and to reciprocate our love to Him with our whole heart, soul, mind, and strength! God is love, and so to know love, is to know God. Please be encouraged, Pastor, and carry on! WWMS
  35. 4 points

    In Great Need of Work!

    Been looking for full time work for nearly 2 months. Thought I found it twice just to get laid off both times. Please pray for me in Jesus Grace I might find work. Beginning to think I will never find a job again.
  36. 4 points
    Yes, the epicenter is King County (good metaphor...King County is the cause of most of our political problems here in the state LOL), with Spokane being the next largest problem. Even with that, considering the numbers who are listed as having the virus, it is a negligible number in comparison to the flu. The flu has also killed more people than this has. However, the flu is so common that government would have a hard time mandating the closure of things and thus bottoming out the economy. Well, other than toilet paper manufacturers. LOL I'm glad you had 18 yesterday. And a visitor to boot! We had 5 in Sunday School and 7 in the main service, 5 last night. Some of our members (as I mentioned my mom) have self-quarantined due to colds. One member lives with his sister, brother-in-law, and niece (plus other family members). His BIL and niece both have major health issues that are actually terminial, so they are quarantined by doctor's order. They are also members of our church. Anyway, this member now has a cold and so is staying home - and virtually stuck in his room, because his niece is convinced he has covid (which has entirely different symptoms from what he has) and is afraid she will contract it. Understandable, because if she gets it, it will kill her most likely. However, that is a picture of what the media hype has done to people. Created a fear within them that makes them afraid of their own family. Small wonder that the majority of people have no issues with government mandated closures and limits on gatherings. My husband is preaching on the different aspect of Christ this month. Yesterday he spoke on Christ as Creator. He also was able to emphasize that we oughtn't let fear run our lives. I'm thankful for pastors who can actually comfort their people in this way! ~~~~~~~ Don't get me wrong - I don't want anybody sick. But I am tired of the hype. More people - VASTLY more - have survived the virus than have died from it.
  37. 4 points

    In Great Need of Work!

    My reply below is not meant to be critical or mean, just honestly asking because I don't understand the logic in your statement. Why? Because God is not answering a prayer request in the way and time frame that you want? God is not a genie in a box were you get 3 wishes that you wish. 1 John 5:14-15 (KJV) And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. James, I have been there before. I've had no job for over a year trying to provide for my family. I now look back and see how God provided over and over again during that time period. Not working actually saw my faith strengthen because I saw that God was with me and provided food and clothing for my family.
  38. 4 points

    What happened in church today?

    Always like to visit a soul-winning church. Tabernacle Baptist Church, Lebanon, Missouri, among other soul-winning efforts, has a "Free Day Away," program for soldiers in training at Ft. Leonard Wood, MO. the church uses buses to bus soldiers to the church in Lebanon, MO and provides a day away from the base with a meal, activities, and a church service. On this particular service I was able to lead one of the soldiers to Christ.
  39. 4 points

    Better here than.......

    You know there are times when you really shouldn't answer right away? Well..... A lady who has been at our church for about two years (not a member) and comes from an eclectic church background (lots of baggage) has just called my wife to accuse her of not being available outside church, and to complain that another lady is always reporting back to the pastor (me), and a few other things. My wife just rang me upset as anything. She could not get a word in edgeways while this lady just unloaded. Now my wife feels terrible "because she has not been doing enough". My wife is wonderful but she wears things like this heavily, and so this will affect her for a while now. I want to ring this lady and give her an piece of my mind, but I fear I don't have enough mind to spare for things like this. It seems to me that loads of people don't realise that a pastor's wife is not a pastor but the help meet for the pastor, and as such is not is a position to bear this kind of thing. There you go. I THINK I have vented enough now. Thanks for listening........
  40. 4 points

    A need for Bible College?

    The Bible Institute taught by local pastors is a good one if there are other local pastors in the area. I had a part in that type of training while I was in Alaska. It was very successful and needy at the time, since we were training two missionary families that were to go to Magadan, Far East Russia and they had very little time to prepare. This way they could still live at home, tend to things needing to be done before they left, like selling their homes and other needful things. This was almost thirty years ago, they were very grateful for this type of opportunity, established two churches there with local pastors and returned home to missionary work in Alaska, One of them is pastoring a sister church to our original one in Alaska, which was started by the same missionary that started our original church. As to BroMatt's OP, I think Bible colleges can be good if they are sound on doctrine and curriculum and only if sanctioned by a local NT Church.
  41. 4 points
    Well, since you haven't been around, then I can only assume that you aren't familiar with Totoosart nor his background. I warned HIM...with a level of warning that I felt HE should hear and would benefit from. There was enough information given in my warning that it should give enough reason for others (who aren't HIM) to seek more information if they are unfamiliar with John Ogwyn or "Tomorrow's World". ...just like you did.
  42. 4 points

    Music help?

    I'd like to add a suggestion. At the church I attended during Bible college, occasionally the song leader would bring out an interesting fact about the hymn we were about to sing, whether about the song itself or the author of the song. It really helps with the understanding or appreciation of the hymn. It would take some effort on your part to do some research about one of the hymns, but if you do this than the folks who know nothing about the hymns will grow in their understanding and appreciation of why we sing the traditional hymns. It's not something you need to do for every song and not needed every service, but just once in awhile bring something interesting out about what you are singing. Nothing more than a minute or two of talking, especially if you just had the people stand for the song! I would also like to encourage you not to worry about whether or not you have a singing talent. Just keep up what you are doing and some day God will lead someone to help lead the singing. With the way the church is growing, it's possible God has already put this on someone's heart, they just might not be ready yet.
  43. 4 points
    How many truths, words and phrases that are Biblical and right have Independent Baptists given up or forsaken over the years because someone else uses them incorrectly? How often do you hear a hard hitting sermon on holiness? We gave that one up when the holiness movement arrived. "Abundant life"? Yeah, it's Bible, but we don't dare use it any more. Too Joel Osteen. "In the Spirit"? Biblical but too charismatic. God created man and had a personal relationship with Adam in the very beginning, walking with him in the cool of the day. Enoch went home early with God simply because God was delighted with his personal relationship, he "walked with God". Abraham was God's friend. Moses spoke face to face with God as a man speaketh with a friend. John leaned on Jesus' breast and was the disciple whom the Lord loved. Jesus said henceforth I call you friends. Not servants. A personal relationship with God is sorely missing from the lives of God's people today, and they desperately need to be led back to that wonderful, personal state of daily walking with God by us pastors. And I'll be hung for a sheep thief before I let false teachers, cowards and fools rob me of another beautiful, necessary truth from scripture to give to His people So yes. I myself use the phrase. Heavily.
  44. 4 points
    This is Biblically inaccurate. When Eve ate of the fruit, she engaged in the first transgression against God's command. As such, she is the first human sinner. 2 Timothy 2:14 declares, "And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." Eve DID eat of the forbidden fruit. Eve DID commit sin against the Lord God by so eating. Eve did eat of that fruit and thereby commit sin FIRST. On the other hand, Eve was NOT the divinely appointed representative for the entire human race. God had placed this appointment upon Adam as the first man. (See 1 Corinthians 15:45-47) Thus Romans 5:12 indicates that by the sin of the one/first man Adam (not by the sin of Eve) sin entered the world of mankind, and death by that man's sin. Indeed, it is "through the offense" of the one/first man Adam that "many be dead." (See Romans 5:15) Indeed, "the judgment was by one [the first man Adam] to condemnation." (See Romans 5:16) It is "by one man's offense" that "death reigned by one." (See Romans 5:17) It is "by the offence of one" that "judgment came upon all men to condemnation." (See Romans 5:18) It is "by one man's disobedience" that "many were made sinners." (See Romans 5:19) Indeed, when the Lord God presented his command unto Adam in Genesis 2:16-17, He spoke directly to Adam; and at that time Eve was not even yet created. Even so, the Lord God employed singular pronouns in His command to Adam, saying, "Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." First, there is NO Biblical principle which indicates that if God spoke directly to someone about any given matter, that His quotation about that matter MUST be recorded in Scripture. That is a human conjecture, NOT a Biblical truth. Second, Eve herself reported differently than your conclusion. In Genesis 3:3 Eve delivered what she claimed to be a direct quote from the Lord God, saying, "But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." It should also be noticed that in her quotation from God, there are TWO significant differences in comparison to the direct command of the Lord God unto Adam as recorded in Genesis 2:16-17. The first and most obvious difference is the addition, "Neither shall ye touch it." The second significant difference is her usage of PLURAL pronouns -- "Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." These plural pronouns within her direct quotation from the Lord God indicate that the Lord God had INDEED spoken this command unto BOTH of them (as a "ye") after Eve was created. First, Eve herself NEVER stated that she learned this command "through Adam" as you claim, nor does any statement of Scripture ever indicate such. This is simply human conjecture. Second, Eve herself DID quote the Lord God as speaking His command to the "ye" (plural, as them both). Third, your declaration concerning "how the majority of men pass along messages" (indicating the need to "listen well" and implying the failure of many men not to "listen well") applies a common failure of sinfully fallen men unto Adam, who at the time was yet in a sinless state. Such an application is a faulty application. The characteristics of sinful man CANNOT rightly be applied unto Adam before his first disobedience and sin in eating the fruit. Before that sinful disobedience his characteristics were faultless, not faulty. Fourth, your declaration concerning "how the majority of men pass along message" in itself even only encompasses "THE MAJORITY" of men. It does not encompass ALL men ALL of the time. Thus you are making an assumption about its application unto Adam for that given case without any Biblical evidence to do so. Again this is human conjecture. Grammatically, Genesis 3:6 does NOT directly say that Adam was present with Eve throughout the serpent's temptation against her. Yes, Genesis 3:6 does employ the phrase, "And gave also unto her husband with her." However, from a grammatical perspective the prepositional phrase "with her" can carry two possible indications. On the one hand, it could mean -- Who was PRESENT with her. In this case the prepositional phrase would modify "her husband," indicating his location. On the other hand, it could mean -- For him TO EAT with her. In this case the prepositional phrase would modify "and gave," indicating her objective. How might we choose between these options? Well, IF Adam was present "with her" throughout the temptation (as you indicate above), then indeed "Adam said nothing," and did not "stand up to the serpent and reiterate God's Word for word command," and did not "say a word in protest." Then indeed Adam "SHOULD HAVE chimed in with 'Nope . . . God commanded me NO, we cannot do that." Yet IF Adam was present and SHOULD HAVE done something that he did not do, then THIS was his first sin. Not doing something that one SHOULD do in the sight of God IS a sin. YET God's Holy Word NEVER attributes such a sin to Adam, but ALWAYS indicates that his first sin was partaking of the fruit. According to God's Holy Word, Adam's first sin was partaking of the forbidden fruit, NOT failing to be a good husband unto his wife. As for myself, I will NOT accuse Adam of a sin that God's own Word does not accuse him of.
  45. 4 points
    You said it better than I could. There's nothing morally or Biblical wrong with presenting the Word of God in a "soft spoken" manner. by a more refined "city guy" type man. I've heard great Bible preachers expound the scriptures that way. As well there's nothing wrong with a "rough", country backwoods "tough" man or "former marine" type either; I've heard great preaching from them too. Where either goes wrong is when pride or scorn rear their ugly heads up and, unfortunately, I've seen that from both "types".. Not good. Rebuke (in love) when it's needed, but just don't forget that God commands us to "exhort" too.
  46. 4 points
    I may have posted this in the past - but due to the number of people willing to consider socialism: How taxes work - 10 Men Go To Dinner. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner and the bill for all comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: 10 MEN GO TO DINNER. The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing like they do now with the present income tax structure. The fifth would pay $1. The sixth would pay $3. The seventh would pay $7. The eighth would pay $12. The ninth would pay $18. The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59 of the bill. So that is what the ten men decide to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. "Since you all are such good customers I am going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20". Dinner for the 10 men now costs just $80... The group still wanted to pay the bill the same way that they paid their taxes so the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six men -- the Paying customers? How could they divide the $20 windfall so that everybody would get his "Fair Share"? They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth and sixth man would each end up being paid to eat their meal... So, the restaurant owner suggested it would be fair to reduce each man’s bill roughly the same amount; and proceeded to work out the amounts each man would pay. The fifth, like the first four now paid nothing (100% savings). The sixth man now paid $2 instead of $3 (33% savings) The seventh man now paid $5 instead of $7 (28% savings) The eight man now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings) The ninth man now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings) The tenth man now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings) Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings... "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man. He pointed to the tenth man "but he got $10"... "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a dollar, too. It’s unfair that he got ten times more than me!?" "That's true", shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get $10 back when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison. "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth man and beat him up... The next night the Tenth man did not show up for dinner, so the Nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half the bill! And that Boys & Girls, journalists and college professors, is how our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just might not show up anymore. In fact, they might start eating overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier? With the above scenario, determined to still go out it would have to be adjusted similar to this: Determined not to do without their freebies and causing the other 5 to feel guilty for entertaining the idea that life is not free the 4 still pay $0 for a $10 meal. #5 pays $2.44 instead of $1 $6 pays $7.31 instead of $3 #7 pays $17.07 instead of $7 #8 pays $29.27 instead of $12 $9 pays $43.91 instead of $18 Total $100 just as before -- but wait! #10 left, he didn't consume a $10 meal, we have extra money -- should we divide it amongst those who paid extra for their meal? No, that is just greed on the part of the 5, give each of the 4 who got free meals $2.50 each and don't make them buss tables and earn it -- now THAT'S fair!
  47. 4 points

    The beauty of creation

    My wife and I went for a drive in the country the other day to a place called Dwellingup, stopped and had lunch near the river, and saw these couple of guys. No Idea what the first guy is as I am not a birdwatcher (after some searching it is a Scarlet Robin), but everyone here knows what the other one is: a Kookaburra. They are a kind of kingfisher, but have a distinctive call, which sounds a little bit like maniacal laughter when they get really into it. They are not a cautious bird at all, well known for stealing food from the tables while people are eating there. In fact, one of them flew right in between my wife and I facing each other at the table. He didn't get our food though, because we were quick enough.....
  48. 4 points

    The beauty of creation

    What a beautiful field of flowers! I have had a few cactus plants for about six-ish years now, usually they have a few blooms on them once in awhile. However, this month one of them has the most blooms I've ever seen! Eight flowers, one is smaller and beneath the larger ones. Interestingly, the blooms close up at night and open during the day.
  49. 4 points

    ANZAC Day

    Day of remembrance for Australian and New Zealand soldiers. "Lest we forget....." The Ode They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old; Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them. Lest we forget......
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