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  1. 10 points
    Dear brothers and sisters in Christ: I apologize for my lengthy absence from Online Baptist. The past year has been quite difficult and I'd not had the energy to spend the time here I'd hoped. As the Lord permitted, I was given strength to write articles for a Christian publication ("Rapture Ready") for over the last 2-3 years, and spent what energy I had on that. I also have been away so long I had no idea where to post this, nor under what topic. So please forgive me if I erred. My photo from before has disappeared as well, and I likely didn't upload a replacement properly either. The news I have to share today is that the time has come not to say "good-bye", but to say: "We'll meet in heaven." I have stage four cancer. I'm not going to pursue chemo nor radiation (etc.), but have instead signed on for Hospice. The cancer has spread to lymph nodes and bone (likely other places as well). At least one tumor has also spread to to local areas (invasively) and is inoperable. It would only prolong the suffering to try any attempts at chemo (etc.) at this point. It's urethral cancer, which is not only rare, but also extremely aggressive. So there isn't much time left. No doctor can give an exact time-line. But the oncologist said 5 months would be the absolute maximum. Honestly? I can't see it being more than a month, maybe two at most (just my opinion - going on how miserable I am and how quickly it's spreading and tumors are enlarging and manifesting here and there). But the Lord alone knows. His will be done. I do so appreciate prayer. However, I humbly request that none would pray for healing; but instead pray "God's will be done". And if you would, please pray for pain relief and continual relief of pain. I also request that you'd pray for the Lord's comfort for my family and dearest friends during this time. Very much appreciated. Although I'm saddened that this is hard for my parents, children, grandchildren, and dear friends; I think most of them understand that I'm not (personally) sad about the prognosis. As most know, I've had primary progressive MS, spinal cord disease (syringomyelia) and myriad other health issues for over a decade. Life has been an "existence" for many years. One I appreciated still, but was often very painful and difficult. I've been house-bound and bed-bound for several years now. I am looking forward to a release from the pain and suffering in this life, and anticipating the fulfillment of promises God has made in His word for eternity to come for those who've trusted and believed on Jesus for salvation. Please don't pity me in the least. "...I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day." (2 Tim.1:12). God has given me the "peace that passeth understanding" (Phil.4:7) and keeps my heart and mind through Christ Jesus. I also have the firm comfort and assurance of the pre-trib rapture, wherein all church/grace-age believers will meet the Lord in the air. The "dead in Christ shall rise first", then those who are "alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord." The Lord will soon give church/grace-age believers incorruptible bodies just like Jesus own glorified body (1 John 3:2; Phil.3:20-21; 1 Cor.15:49-53; 1 Thes.4:13-18; et al) at the rapture. While some brethren here may disagree with this doctrine, I am fully convinced of the scriptural surety that the rapture is indeed pre-tribulational. And that Jesus has promised to deliver us from the wrath to come (1 Thes.1:10, 5:1-9; Rom.5:9). So also do I know that scripture proves the rapture to be imminent (nothing need proceed the timing). However, I also believe the rapture is now much more than imminent, but also must soon occur, as much of end time Bible prophecy is aligned in stunning accuracy. I would never dare set date. Yet we are given to know and discern the season which we are now in. Brethren and sisters, I do believe that the rapture is so near that should I physically die first, I do believe all in Christ will soon be raptured and we will all meet together in the air. I very much appreciate the fellowship and past discussion here on OB. So many dear brethren and sisters have touched my life, edified me, and I count you all a blessing. Continue on serving the Lord, knowing that our labor is not in vain in the Lord, and that His word does not return void. Much love, See you soon. Maranatha!!!
  2. 8 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    This argument is a "Straw Man" and meant to deflect answering a genuine opinion from someone else that views the subject differently. I've studied the qualifications and credits of the original translators and I will take their translation abilities over yours in a heartbeat. Oh, and I'll also take their ability in the form of the KJV. Please keep in mind, although I am certain you have; that this message forum is exclusively KJV and will remain so long after you have gone, as will my opinion. If you came here with the intention of changing it, or to cause trouble over our use of the KJV, you may as well give it up, you will not succeed.
  3. 8 points

    Prayer for moderator and wife.

    I am asking for prayer for one of our moderators and his wife. The moderator is Ukulelemike, his wife's name is Delia. Mike wrote to tell me that his wife woke in the night some time ago with severe stomach pain. He rushed her to the hospital and they found that she had a perforated colon resulting in a massive spill of bowel contents into her abdomen. At first they couldn't even find her blood pressure, once they did find it, it was only 50/20 her heart rate was 165. He said she almost died. She has been in intensive care for a full five weeks. She is healing now and it is looking a lot better for her. They have no insurance so this is going to be hard on them. I asked him if I could post this on the forum and he said yes, the more the better. So now we have something to pray for, for one of our own.
  4. 8 points


    I posted this before but in 2014, so I will post it again in response. I Posted June 24, 2014 I was out soul winning, door knocking in the area when someone who answered the door stated "I have heard of your church, you guys are the one's with all those rules." I looked at him genuinely confused and said "we don't have ANY rules." He said, "then why do you guys dress so different, and you don't drink, go dancing, go to movie theaters, or party like normal folks, and you go to church like several times a week?" I told him it's because of a love for God and what he has done for us. We find principles in His word that indicates what would be most pleasing to Him and out of love we do all we can to please Him. You don't have to do ANY of those things to attend our church, that would make them rules that must be followed. You don't need to follow any of those things to be saved either and on your way to heaven. I then got the chance to explain a non-works salvation to him. A person who needs rules, doesn't understand principles. Galatians 5:18 (KJV) 18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law. If you are truly led of the Spirit, the Spirit will NEVER lead you to do anything that is contrary to God's will and Word, there is no need for the law. Rules are neccesary for a heart away from God. Galatians 3:19a (KJV) 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions 1 Corinthians 6:12 (KJV) 12 All things are lawful unto me [the Law], but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any [the Principle]. 1 Corinthians 10:23 (KJV) 23 All things are lawful for me [the Law], but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not [the Principle]. The law makes nothing perfect. Hebrews 7:19 (KJV) 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. The law was not made for righteous men. 1 Timothy 1:8-10 (KJV) 8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disOBedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, 10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; Galatians 3:24 (KJV) 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. So many people, especially IFB's who have been raised since children in an IFB church, have no idea WHY we have the standards we do. Until they understand that a standard is simply a self-imposed boundary set to help us keep a conviction that was formed by understanding a principle from God's word. You first find a principle in God's word, and from that principle you form a conviction, and then a standard is set by yourself to help you keep that conviction. Because of this, some standards are entirely yours alone. For instance, I will not allow myself to own a boat. There is absolutely nothing wrong or sinful about boat ownership, but for me, outdoor recreation is a huge draw and I am weak enough to it ( "I will not be brought under the power of any"), that my ministry for God is hurt by it. Until people have standards put IN them by understanding the principles behind them, instead of ON them because "that's just the way we do things" they will never have them for their own and it is easy for them to backslide as soon as they are out of the house. Bro. Garry In His will. By His power. For His glory.
  5. 8 points
    No Nicolaitans

    The Altar

    Hi Thief on the Cross. I will give you my view on it; others' views may differ. First, I'm not sure how the area (that you're referring to) became known as "the altar". At one time, it was called things like "the mourner's bench". Charles Finney called it "the anxious bench". Those latter two names will give you the significance of it. Basically, the idea and purpose for it is that it gives a person (who may be under conviction) the opportunity to respond to that conviction at the earliest possible moment after hearing the word of God preached. The idea being, that if a person possibly waits, they may (or may not) make a decision in response to God's word. That's a good question. I personally believe that to call that area "the altar" isn't really in keeping with the biblical use of the term. The altar was the place (in the Old Testament) where animals were sacrificed and slain. There was also the altar of incense. Various people also built altars in the Old Testament prior to the institution of the law. I don't recall if any of those altars were used for anything other than sacrificing animals. They may have been; I just don't recall right now. In the New Testament (aside from the four gospels), the only altars that are mentioned which aren't for Israel's sacrificing of animals are... 1. An altar to false gods in Acts 17. 2. An altar mentioned in Hebrews 13 that belongs to "us". I think most people would say that this altar is the cross of Christ since that is where he was slain. 3. The altar of God in heaven in Revelation. Now aside from that, is there a biblical reason for doing this? I would say that's up to the individual church... My reasons in favor of it: 1. When the people heard the word of the Lord read in Nehemiah 8, they immediately acted upon it. 2. When the keeper of the prison asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved, he was told and immediately acted upon it. Now, it must be understood that in those two examples, there wasn't "an altar" (as we're referring to). They heard the word of God and immediately acted on it. So, people can still act on what they've heard from God's word without an "altar". My main reason for using those examples is that it (the altar call) gives people the opportunity to act immediately after hearing the word of God. However, the actual "acting on God's word" takes place in our daily lives. My reasons against it... There is nothing in the bible (that I know of) to describe what we know as today's altar call. At the same time, there is nothing in God's word describing a Sunday School, Church Choirs, Assistant Pastors, etc. There are many things done today that fall under what I would call "Christian Liberty". There may not be anything expressly supporting them in scripture; however, there isn't anything expressly forbidding them either. So churches are at liberty to use them. My concern (apart from the name itself) is that "the altar call" has become more than it was intended to be. Some use that time to pressure people. Some use it as a way of measuring a successful sermon. Some use it as a way to compare themselves with other churches. I want to stress "some"...not all! Now keep in mind, these are my thoughts on it. Others may disagree. In fact, if anyone knows that I'm mistaken in any part of this, I would hope they would point that out to me so that I can make it right.
  6. 7 points
    No Nicolaitans

    What would you do?

    Please forgive me for what I'm about to say... Folks here know my stance (I think). I see nothing wrong with women wearing pants...if they are modest. Same with dresses. Sometimes, I feel that I'm the only one who draws a parallel between modern-day IFB "rules and regulations" and the Pharisees who placed the emphasis on outward appearance. Whitewashed tombs? Clean the outside of the cup? Christ certainly wasn't in favor of those who "made proselytes". I've said it before. I'm saying it now...and I'll continue saying it... Allow the Holy Spirit to change a person as they grow in the knowledge and admonition of the Lord. When the change comes from him (and within), the change is real. When the change is forced by others...it's not real. It's done to please man. All of this emphasis on forcing a change on the outward appearance usurps what Christ is doing on the inside. Often more than not, it forces people to seek to please man...and often more than not, it leads to man-worship. I would much rather see a lady (who wears pants to church) yearning to know more of Christ...than to see a woman (who wears dresses only) that gives those who don't "measure up" looks of disgust and disdain, because they wear pants ...and the same for men. Preach standards...yes! However, don't force them on people. Allow the Holy Spirit to change them through the preaching of his word. Please?
  7. 6 points
    OLD fashioned preacher

    What an Opportunity

    My wife was just showing me a photo and text from a missionary couple we've known for around 30 years. They had the opportunity to meet, talk with, witness to, and leave a tract with the King and Queen of Nigeria.
  8. 6 points

    Hubs in the hospital...

    I would appreciate prayer for my husband, Randy. I will try to sum up what seems to me a long story...but this is going to be long. I'm sorry about that! Thursday morning while Randy was at a client's home, he went out to shovel. In these parts, black ice is a real and present danger during the winter. Well, he fell on black ice. His right leg went under him, and his left leg hyper-extended. He managed to get up (he was right by the van's bumper) but fell again right away. He rolled to the pavement, where there was no ice. Got up and began going back to the house, and fell in the snow. Three falls within a matter of minutes. Someone with Factor V Leiden's isn't supposed to be doing those shenanigans. So he came home. How he got into the van, drove, and got up the steps into the house is beyond me - other than God helped him greatly. Because he could hardly walk at all. He got into a chair and I got the heating pad, etc. He thought it was a badly pulled muscle. By now it was almost 11 am. I knew he was in agony, because he would never, ever leave work for just a little bit of pain. He has a very high pain tolerance (many times I will notice him favoring something and will ask how he's doing - he always answers that he's fine...). So about 12:30 he said he thought I might need to call the ambulance. He didn't think he would be able to get down the stairs, down the icy hill, into the van with only my help (to take him to the emergency room). I let our son know, and he said he was getting off work to come help. By 1, Randy was certain he needed an ambulance. So I called them. They got there pretty quickly, thankfully. They were great. They couldn't bring in the stretcher because our ramp was too slick, so they used a blanket to carry him outside. As they rolled him, he hollered out in pain. We have been married almost 33 years, and he has gone through a lot of physically painful things. But I have NEVER heard him holler like that. Never. That was about my undoing. Our son had gotten here by then, but was waiting on the road by our driveway (due to the snow, there was nowhere for him to park if he came up the driveway, and he would have been in the way of the ambulance). He came into the house and headed straight for me to wrap me in a tight hug. That was absolutely what I needed at that moment. I was never more thankful that God moved him up here. So Josh drove me to the hospital. We were in the emergency room for hours as they tested him. (it seemed like years...especially when we saw the date the nurse had written on the white board: Feb 14, 2014. LOL) They found a DVT that was already on its way down his leg - it stretched from his groin to his knee (two years ago it went from his groin to his foot). Doctors have concluded that it is a result of his accident - physical trauma to someone with Factor V can quickly cause clots...and I guess he has to do even that all the way, with major clots LOL). They tried to have him stand. He almost passed out, so the doc laid him back down quickly. And he just laid there with a blank stare for about a minute. Scared me so very badly. So they brought in some pain meds and muscle relaxers, thinking that it might be a pulled muscle. An hour later, they wanted to try and have him stand again (they wanted to send him home, but they couldn't until they knew he could walk). He couldn't even sit with his legs over the bed (he was holding his left leg up so it wouldn't touch the bed and was still in so much pain). So they decided to admit him. He got to his room about 11:30 pm (and we time traveled from 2-14-2014 to 2-15-2019 LOL). We left the hospital about 12:30 and got back to our road a little after 1. Well, as I said, our private road doesn't get plowed. And nobody that lives on the road believes in shoveling, I guess. (Randy would have done some once we were plowed out had he had a chance). So great big piles of slushy frozen snow met us. With one set of tracks. Josh headed up the hill, got about halfway and started spinning. So he backed up - the snow pulled him over one of the frozen piles and we got stuck. Josh got out to check and we were good and stuck. He started doing what he could. As I sat there, I was a bit overwhelmed. So I began to pray. While I was praying, I reminded the Lord about how quickly He helped Peter when Peter cried "Lord, save me!". I told the Lord we needed immediate help. I kid yo not...within minutes (could have been seconds) I saw car lights coming down the road. Now, understand this is 1:30 in the morning, in a super-rural area. Folks are just not out and about during that time. ESPECIALLY in this weather (which is so unusual for this area). The man pulled up immediately and got out of his car. He looked things over, and then said he had a shovel. Now, we have a snow shovel that Josh could have walked up to the house and gotten, but he didn't want to leave me with the van sticking out onto the main road, and neither of us was crazy about the thought of me walking up the road. But our snow shovel is a regular, hard-plastic, wide shovel. His was not. His was metal. Smaller. With kind of pointed parts. The kind perfect for scraping away at ice. And the size just right for fitting in an area a regular snow shovel would have a problem with. You know, almost as if God knew something... He and Josh took turns using the shovel - he even got down on the ground to work at it. This complete stranger, whom I'd never seen before (and who actually didn't speak to me except to tell me to push on the gas slowly as they pushed the van). It took about half an hour, but we were unstuck! He told us we should get a hotel, but I couldn't leave my mom alone up there (and, to add to it - our furnace had gone out, but had just been fixed that day). So we tried it again, and got stuck again. The man was gone by now, but we weren't stuck so badly and it just took Josh a few minutes to free us. We parked the van on the main road, and he walked me up to the house. He had been going to stay the night, but we couldn't leave the van on the road all night. So he decided to go home and come back in the morning to take me back to the hospital. He got home, but couldn't get up his road - it was ice. So the poor guy had to go get a hotel after all (something the man kept saying we should do). Neither of us got much sleep that night. LOL But God is so good! So we visited Randy yesterday, but didn't stay long because we didn't want to be home to either of our places after dark. I can't go see Randy today, but I've talked to him on the phone (and Josh is going to see him on his lunch break). Randy had a rough night last night from the pain - even with the meds. So the doctor said they were missing something and sent him to have a CAT scan of his leg. They found a hematoma. Not something to normally worry about, but with someone on anti-coagulants it is a concern. The doc called the hematologist who worked with Randy two years ago and they agreed to take him off one of his blood thinners while he was in hospital (they had him on his regular Warfarin, but put him on Lovenox as well). They are keeping him on the Lovenox for now and so he has to remain in hospital longer so they can monitor the hematoma. Randy said something about the muscle as well, but he had gotten his pain meds by the time I'd talked to him, and coupled with the sleepless night was pretty drowsy. Anyway...would greatly appreciate prayer. Thank you for reading this mini book.
  9. 6 points

    Rough Times

    My son was involved in an accident, on one of our vehicles, and it looks like we will be sued. I can't go into details on here but sure could use some prayer. To compound that, it's lambing time, we have already lost 10 lambs. Then yesterday someone bought one of our pieces of skid steer/tractor equipment and, by the end of the day, severely damaged it, then stopped payment on our check. I sent their photo to the manufacturer and they said it was abused but I have received no word yet when a replacement part will be sent. I'm feeling pretty low.
  10. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I must have a different KJV. I have been reading it for 44 years and have yet to find a goof or booboo.
  11. 6 points

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    I'm just a simple guy, but I think I can see a parallel between what Mr. Roby zeros in on and other so called "pet theories". We have had those that have passed through before trying to set us straight with their pet theory ideas. We see this also outside of our forum. They are always the ones that cannot seem to focus on anything outside of one issue that takes up their whole thought processes. We've seen it here in the form of just one that I will mention out of the many, and that is with the former member SFIC who has been banned , his sole issue in any interaction with others was with the tithe. Out in the real world outside of the Internet these folks can be seen promoting their pet theories such as; women wearing pants; women should wear hats; men wearing beards; universal and local church; the tithe. Anyway you get the idea. Although it may be interesting for some who have never heard these theories and the valid arguments against them to read for the first time, the proponent of these pet theories is almost never convinced of the error of his or her ways and ends up being banned or just moving along to what they consider easier targets. So, having said all of that it leaves my simple mind to wonder if the Bible itself might address situations such as these. Pr 18:2 A fool hath no delight in understanding, but that his heart may discover itself. Tit 3:10 A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; If any of what I have written seems uncharitable I would offer this: 2Tim 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.
  12. 6 points
    They CANNOT be the same because they were translated from DIFFERENT textual families and through DIFFERENT viewpoints of textual philosophy. Any talk that the "modern translations" are simply an attempt to "modernize" the language of the King James translations is FALSEHOOD. They are not different because they use "modern, updated language." They are different because they were translated from a DIFFERENT SOURCE. So then, IF the SOURCE for the King James translation is truth, then by definition they must be falsehood. On the other hand, IF the SOURCE for the "modern translations" is truth, then by definition the King James translation is falsehood. As for myself, through the Biblical doctrine of preservation and its doctrinal details, I believe that the source for the "modern translations" is FALSEHOOD. Therefore, I will NOT respect them, but will OPPOSE them. I know that some would claim that a King James Only position is a myth because it does not have direct support from the Holy Scriptures. For me my King James positioning, in opposition to the "modern translations," is a doctrinal CONCLUSION that is BUILT UPON my understanding concerning the DOCTRING OF PRESERVATION. So, I would ask - IS THE BIBLICAL DOCTRINE OF PRESERVATION A MYTH?
  13. 6 points

    Why Large Families?

    While I understand what you are saying, God is bigger than you, myself and money in this area. If God wants someone to have a large family and the money is not there, God WILL provide. God has been known as the Lord who will provide (Genesis 22:14 & 2 Peter 1:11). Did it make sense for the Israelites to leave Egypt when they did not have enough water or food for the trip for the children? Did it make sense for Abraham to bring Isaac into the mountain for a sacrifice? Please don't limit God's ability. I dont think it's fair to make a blanket statement about what you've seen. I have seen what you have seen, and I also have seen God supply and take care of large families that had no financial way to take care of the kids, and I saw God provide and meet need after need. The quantity of kids is not a situation that is across the board. I must trust God in what He tells me, regardless of my bank account. GOD is bigger than anything.
  14. 6 points

    Steven Anderson

    Can you please show some respect for our beliefs already? You are a guest on this site. You aren’t required to agree with it (Re KJV), but you could be a bit more polite and stop throwing your “KJV myth” comments everywhere you possibly can.
  15. 6 points

    Rock Tumbling

    The church I am working at has a home school ministry and I thought it would be a fun thing for the kids to learn about rock polishing/tumbling, so I brought in my little rock tumbler and a few rough gemstones that came with it and showed them how it works. They were a bit disappointed that it's going to take so long to have a finished shiny stone, but are excited to seeing the finished product. The rock tumbler works by turning a barrel of rocks, sand, and water constantly for up to 3-4 weeks depending on your desired shininess or rock type. The tumbler that I got came with four different grits of sand, the first grit is the roughest type and just gets the rocks smoothed out, the final grit is the finest type and polishes the rocks. The rocks have been tumbling for two weeks now, and are now at grit #3 and will tumble for another week before I change the sand again. The pictures are of the tumbler and some random rocks I found, before tumbling, and after the first week of tumbling. Before: After 1 week:
  16. 6 points


    Bubbles by Alan As one goes through life, troubles, like bubbles, arise and flow, Turmoil and woe, Friend and Foe Alike flow like bubbles, Bubbles, like troubles, are the woe on man, The curse of sin, Bubbles, like time, wax and wan, rise and fall Though big and complex, like the throes of life, meet man alike Bubble like troubles, are strong and weak to all they meet A wind shall carry, all alike, from start to finish. Though alike in form, the end is not norm, for all bubbles. To prove the fact, the truth may be known All bubbles are not the same. Though flimsy and flighty, the race is not in the bubble, 'tis the wind. Though not swift, nor strong in might, 'tis the wind. 'Tis wind my friend, the determines the end, of the bubble. ' that the race is not, to the swift,' 'tis the wind. Ecclesiastes 9:11 Photo by Mrs. Alan
  17. 6 points

    Wesco Family to Cameroon

    Please be in prayer for the Wesco family. This family of 10 arrived in Cameroon in recent months as missionaries. Brother Wesco was shot in the head and died either this morning or yesterday (the time difference fools me...). Anyway, all of their children are minors, so Sister Wesco is left to rear them as a single mom. Her prayer is that God will be glorified through all of this.
  18. 6 points
    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. When we married, my wife tried to change me, and I tried to change her. To make a long story short, the truth of those verses finally dawned on me. After I gave up my own desires and accepted her for who she was, life was much better. Take it as you will.
  19. 6 points
    Here is something to ponder -- 1. The character of God's Law is holy. Thus it is in perfect unity with the perfect holiness of the Lord our God. 2. The character of God's Spirit is holy. Thus he is in perfect unity with the perfect holiness of the Lord our God. 3. If by character God's Law directs us in a perfect standard of holiness, and if by character God's Spirit directs us in a perfect standard of holiness, in what manner does God's Law and God's Spirit contradict each other?
  20. 6 points

    I have a request

    Tomorrow I will be going in for an echocardiogram. I have had the test before and there was nothing wrong. However, I recently had an EKG that showed some issues. There is an issue in my sinus rhythm, and they suspect that my left atrium is enlarged. Hence the ECG. There is definitely something wrong - I can feel it. Please, if you would, pray that they can find what's wrong and we can take care of it. On a happier note, I had a whole slew of blood tests done, and everything is great with those. No high blood pressure, either. My hubs had some tests as well. And they weren't as happy. His A1C hit 7, and his triglycerides were so high they couldn't figure his LDL or HDL count. My TOTAL lipid panel was 134. His triglyderides are 1500. Yes, you read that right. Ugh... So now we are in the process of trying to change some things. Would appreciate prayer for that as well.
  21. 6 points

    Salvation after the rapture.

    The "left behind" series are to be taken with a grain of salt. Although entertaining, thought provoking, and an element of truth, they are not entirely scriptural doctrine. They were written with more thought on making money in the Christian market than teaching biblical doctrine. Your question is not silly. It arises due to the confusion in false teachers teaching salvation by our works. So, we understand that your question is logical. First of all, nowhere in the Bible, in either the Old or New Testament, in either under Law or under Grace, nor even in the 7-Year Tribulation Period, will anybody be saved by works. Second, false teachers take verses out of context and give their own reason why they think people must work to be saved. I do hope that my short explanation helps. In other areas of OnLineBaptist the issue of working for one's salvation has been minutely studied. I am only giving you the conclusion of our studies. If you have any specific verse that you want us to study please let us know.
  22. 6 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    My Apology

    Sometimes it is not the words themselves, but the attitude in which those words were administered. We observe the words, but God the Holy Spirit is able to look upon the attitude. Thus if God the Holy Spirit brought conviction against what was done, although you or I do not see the fault, then God the Holy Spirit should be heeded. Although I also may not have recognized any fault in Brother Jim's responses, I do certainly honor his humility in publicly providing the above expression of humble repentance at the direction of God the Holy Spirit.
  23. 5 points
    The problem with aligning to those terms is how they are defined by those groups. They don't mean what you mean when you say "Totally Depraved", or "perserverance" as a couple of examples.
  24. 5 points
    The KJV has absolutely no indication that the account of the rich man and Lazarus was a dream in any way. It is stated as a factual, real event experienced personally by these two men.
  25. 5 points

    "This is Our Deed to the Land."

    The land of Israel is firmly established by a written Covenant, the Bible, to the physical, descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob: the Jews. The Israeli Ambassador, the Honourable Danny Danon, explains it very plainly when, after quoting Genesis 17:7 & 8, he said, while holding up the Bible, "This is the deed to our land."
  26. 5 points

    How God Funds His Work…

    I started our church 3 years ago. If we waited to have funds to do things, we would not have accomplished much. As long as we followed God, He has always provided. God has been good.
  27. 5 points


    No. To be clear, this site is about Independent Baptists, not just about "Baptists". Some "Baptists" do consider themselves part of the protestant movement, but in general IB churches are INDEPENDENT from all denominations, and are not a close and solid group, but a bunch of independent churches that have similar doctrines because we try to follow the Bible. As to the actual term "protestant" - that is technically referring to those people who were protesting against the Catholic church, and this happened during what is known as the "reformation" where these people were tyring to "reform" the Catholic church "back to the truth". Problem is that the Catholic church was never a true church following the Bible anyway, so to "reform" them is to take them from an unbiblical position to an older unbiblical position. There has however always been a group of people who have tried to follow the Bible alone, and it is this group that IB tentatively trace our heritage back to - not protestant, not Catholic, but Biblical.
  28. 5 points

    Saved before the Cross?????

    I always find it interesting when people try to suggest that salvation was not possible before the cross, or when they at least say that salvation was different before the cross. I find it interesting because Paul doesn't agree with either of those propositions. How can I state it so categorically? Oh I don't know...…. 2Ti 3:15 (15) And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Which Scriptures do you suppose that Timothy knew from his childhood? Act 17:10-11 (10) And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. (11) These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Which Scriptures do suppose the Bereans searched as they checked whether the things that Paul preached were so? Well, When Timothy was a child I doubt that they had much in the way of the New Testament written, and the Bereans were checking before at least the vast majority of the NT was written. Little Timmy knew the Holy Scriptures which are able to make him wise UNTO SALVATION. BEFORE most if not all of the NT was written. That means that Paul said to Timothy that the OT Scriptures could tell someone how to be saved the NT way - through faith in Jesus Christ...……….. And what about those Bereans - they searched the Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. They searched the OT Scriptures to check on what Paul was preaching. What was Paul preaching? Act 17:2-3 (2) And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, (3) Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. Notice that it was his manner to preach this, and what he preached was that Jesus Christ had to suffer and die, and rise again from the dead. The Bereans believed Paul's preaching because hen they checked out the OT to see if Paul was preaching truth, they found it was true - FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT - and they got saved. This means that the OT told people how to be saved through Jesus Christ. Timothy read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved - apparently when he was a little child. The Bereans read the Old Testament, believed it, and got saved. And in Timothy it says that those Scriptures are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith in Jesus Christ……. pretty plain to me - the OT tells someone how to be saved through Jesus Christ. And the Bereans were able to confirm in the OT, that salvation is through Jesus Christ, because that is what Paul was preaching. I dunno…… I am just a dumb bloke...…. but it seems pretty obvious to me. The OT tells about Jesus Christ, and what He had to do to save men from their sins - people just had to believe it, just as now they just have to believe it.
  29. 5 points

    How do you explain the Holy Light?

    Lucian, I would like to challenge your approach to 'proving' what is heretical vs. authentic. Your post appears to suggest that you are allowing miracles to 'prove' truth. I would challenge you that truth should prove all things by itself. I assume you're Orthodox? I think we can establish a base that we can both agree with - that the Bible is the inspired, inerrant Word of God. God Himself inspired its writing, and the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). Can we start with the agreement that the Bible is God's direct Word to mankind? As God is Holy, True and Perfect, so His Word is True. It cannot be anything but True. Therefore, we can judge all things by it. We are, in fact, instructed to prove all things; hold fast that which is true (1 Thess. 5:21). Consider: And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming thither went into the synagogue of the Jews. These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. Therefore many of them believed; also of honourable women which were Greeks, and of men, not a few. (Acts 17:10-12) So we are told to look in the Bible to see if what we are taught by other sources is true. Consider also: For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (2 Peter 1:16-21) Here Peter is referring to the Transfiguration described in Matthew 17. This was an amazing, miraculous event where the disciples not only saw Jesus as God in His glory, but also saw the great (dead) prophets speaking to Him! What an amazing sign and event this was - yet Peter tells us in this passage that the written Word of God (the Bible) is a more sure source of information and truth (i.e. prophecy) than that miraculous sign. The principle here is that the Bible is to be our first source of Truth - more so than any sign. We do see in the Bible where at different times, God used signs & wonders - especially in His dealing with the Jews. But that was never His primary form of communication. God sent prophets to tell His people His truth; many of those prophets He used to write down His Word in the Bible. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (Matthew 23:37). Moreover, we are repeatedly warned that there will be false prophets, and false christs, that will use signs and wonders to deceive people: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders... (2 Thess. 2:9) And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many... Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:11, 23-25) (Mark 13:21-22) And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast... (Rev. 13:11-14a) This last one specifically refers to fire being used as a false sign! Remember also, that in the time of the Exodus, the priests of the false Egyptian gods were able to recreate some of the miracles of the plagues. Satan is not without power, and uses that power to deceive people lest they believe in the true Gospel of God and be saved. And the magicians of Egypt did so with their enchantments: and Pharaoh's heart was hardened, neither did he hearken unto them; as the Lord had said. And the magicians did so with their enchantments, and brought up frogs upon the land of Egypt. (Exodus 7:22; 8:17) This, then, is what the Bible says about all signs and wonders; that they must be proven by Scripture, that Scripture is always the final Word, and that they can be the work of false prophets and must not be implicitly trusted. Is this Holy Fire used to demonstrate the veracity of Orthodoxy? Then one must look at the doctrine of Orthodoxy. How does it compare to the Bible? Ephesians 2:5-6 says: For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:Not of works, lest any man should boast. Is Orthodox doctrine in agreement with this? Does it agree with the teaching of Isaiah 53 and the rest of Scripture which teach that Christ is our substitutionary atonement - that God literally accepted His Death as sacrifice for sin in our stead? If not, you must reject the doctrines of men in favor of the teaching of the Word of God. Trying to worship God using the doctrines of men is vain. Look at Matthew 15:9 (But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men) and Mark 7:7; study Colossians 2 which warns about replacing the simple Gospel of faith in Jesus Christ's finished work alone for a works-based attempt at pleasing God. (which can never succeed: But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away. Isaiah 64:6) You had asked what I thought about the Holy Fire. First, my library training (I'm a Library Tech by education) teaches me not to trust a site that has an inherent interest in the subject. In other words, of course an Orthodox site will cite proof for this phenomenon. Any claim of scientific proof needs to be backed up by an impartial witness. Secondly, a quick Wikipedia search shows that this phenomenon has apparently been debunked by multiple individuals over the past millennium. Thirdly, (and actually the most important), since the Bible warns me of false teachers using miracles, and since I know Orthodox doctrine is not in line with the Bible, I honestly don't care whether it's an authentic miracle or a hoax. It could be a miracle of Satan, or it could be a hoax of the priests. Doesn't matter. I will trust the Bible, God's Word, as True and Truth and follow its teachings rather than that of the Orthodox church. Food for thought. I was not 'raised Baptist', rather as a born-again believer I choose to attend the Baptist church that I do because I believe its teachings align most closely with the Bible.
  30. 5 points
    John Young

    Goofs and booboos in the KJV.

    A selection of all the "Goofs and booboos" of the modernist movement in the ongoing process of trying to find and fix the Goofs and booboos.... I'm sure the'll get them all eventually...
  31. 5 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    I never put much weight into those who is against the KJV only when their only explanation is experience, common sense, & audience request. I'll put my faith and trust in God and His Word, not what man says. As to the original topic: While I believe the KJV is perfectly preserved for English speaking people, I do not have a problem with Archaic words being updated. Modern version failed because they have changed meaning of verses by re translating the verse.
  32. 5 points

    Cards For Randy DePriest

    LuAnne, (HappyChristian) gave me permission to post an address to send Randy get well wishes and to let him know people everywhere are praying for his speedy recovery. Please send the cards to his church, some of you may already have this address but here it is again: Pastor Randy DePriest c/o Lighthouse Baptist Church 108 Airport Road Port Townsend, WA 98368 I'm sure it will encourage Randy and the Church at Port Townsend.
  33. 5 points

    Archaisms in the KJV.

    Actually, I find that much of a modern English use is dumbed down and oversimplified. We don’t use nearly the breadth of language available to us in classic English. I have no desire to use a Bible whose language has similarly been simplified to the point it can no longer be accurate. The scholarly knowledge present in the KJV is also something that can hardly be replicated today. I wouldn’t trust modern “translators” to have the same language knowledge. Ever studied just how educated they were, and how many steps were taken to remove bias or inaccuracy from the text? The specificity provided by the singular/plural meanings of thou/you are not always discernible from the context. And where they are, it really is a lot easier to understand the difference from the word itself, rather than studying it out through the context. Why wouldn’t you want to use what’s available?
  34. 5 points
    Maybe you have the daunting task of putting together your church bulletin, or just maybe you have read the church bulletin on a Sunday Morning and got a little chuckle on how a sentence was worded or the wrong placement of a comma. Here is a list of some of my favorite things that have somehow made its way into our church bulletin. Reminds us that we all need proofreaders at times. Enjoy. For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery down stairs. The eighth graders will be presenting Shakespeare's Hamlet in the church basement on Friday at 7 pm. The congregation is invited to attend the tragedy. This being Easter Sunday, we will ask Mrs. Lewis to come forward and lay an egg on the altar. Thursday night: Potluck Supper - Prayer and medication will follow. Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children. Weight Watchers meeting has been moved to 6pm. Please use the double doors when entering. Evening massage - 7 p.m. Next Sunday we have a soloist for the morning service. The pastor will then preach on "It's a Terrible Experience." Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. Don't let worry kill you off - let the church help. A bean supper will be held on Tuesday evening in the church hall. Music will follow. At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What is hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice. The choir invites any member of the congregation who enjoys sinning to join the choir. You have a funny blooper from your church bulletin? Please comment it below.
  35. 5 points

    Old and unmarried

    I'm a woman, but figure I'll throw my two cents in. You're younger than I am, and I've been single, never dated, my whole life. My situation is different than yours, I lived in a highly Christian/Baptist saturated area, went to a Baptist Bible college and never met "the one". Now I'm dedicated to be a missionary to a country where it's very rare to bump into single Christian, Baptist, missionary men. I decided a long time ago that I would only be interested in a man who is also dedicated to being a missionary to the same country God called me to, knowing I'd probably never marry because of this. God has given me peace concerning this situation. Are there times where I feel lonely or sad that I may never marry? Yes, those feelings are only natural. But, again, God gives me peace of heart and I feel satisfied that God's will for my life, whether I marry or not, is the best way to live my life. For your situation, would you really rather marry someone who will probably physically abuse you and cheat on you with another woman? Is that security? Is that love? Will your life have any peace? Is it so bad to be a single woman that you would rather be abused? I just don't understand. Is there any way you could move to a less depraved city or country? Is something preventing you from moving? How did you become a Christian? Are there no other Christians or churches in the area who can help you? I beg you to turn to Christ for peace and security and not a man with empty promises. Please trust Christ. To answer your question: It is unacceptable for a believer to marry an unbeliever, even though it sadly happens all the time. II Corinthians 6:14-18 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty."
  36. 5 points

    Looking to convert.

    Not many IFB churches officially identify as such - most just call themselves independent Baptist. It is the clear reliance on the Bible, and the intent to follow the Bible in all things that separates a poor church from a fundamental Baptist church.
  37. 5 points

    Fort Worth Star-Telegram Series

    Ok this has gone on long enough. We have rules for posting on these forums, rules that the new people in this thread have obviously not read. Here is the one pertinent to this thread: We will not allow the following c) Members that come just to argue doctrine instead of fellowship. I am locking this thread for the above stated reason. Any further attempt by anyone to start a new thread on the same subject will be cause to ban that person.
  38. 5 points

    Rock Tumbling

    Wow! Beautiful rocks. Thank you for the article on Rock Tumbling. Looking forward to the end result. The rocks in their natural state (full of dirt, scratches, grime, dross and imperfections), were not as beautiful, or useful for public display, or for sale, as much as after they were polished, as before. Right off the top of my head I can think of some illustrations concerning a new life in Christ, and the beauty of salvation, once the Lord polishes us up and takes away the "rough" edges off of us. "Take away the dross from the silver, and there shall come forth a vessel for the finer." Proverbs 25:4 "If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work." 2 Timothy 2:21
  39. 5 points

    New car!

    Well, new to me anyway. Our old roundabout car has been less than reliable of late and I finally gave up on it. It was a 1997 Chrysler Neon (Dodge or Plymouth to you guys but sold here as a Chrysler). It was fun, but had a few issues which I couldn't solve. Anyway, I found a 2000 Ford Mondeo st24, which I think was sold in the US as the Ford Contour. It was unlicensed and the rules here are pretty strict but it seemed in good nick. Offered the guy $500 for it. He wanted $750, but he took my offer. A week of fiddling and another $80 for seat covers and it passed inspection today. There are all sorts of costs involved 8n the inspection process, but all in it has me about $900 including purchase price, and these are valued at $3000. So I am happy and it is a really nice car albeit 18 years old. Drives almost like new, has ABS, four front airbags, traction control, and a really good set of tyres. Sporty version too, so I can still have some fun. I know it is not in the least bit spiritual, but to be honest, the Lord has supplied this for us. If anyone genuinely cares I will try to add a photo, but hey.... it is a car - you all know what they look like.
  40. 5 points
    His posts are being held in moderation and each has to be approved by a moderator before it will show on the board. Some will never show because of the content. Some will show if it is deemed relevant to responsible discussion or a responsible reply to questions already asked of him.
  41. 5 points
    Well, September 21st came and went without the signing of the covenant by the 10 nations as foretold by Mr. Jordan. I hope this will be a lesson to him and anyone else who sets dates. No man knows.
  42. 5 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Sheep teaching sheep

    As has been stated already, the statements concerning sheep not teaching sheep is NOT a Biblical concept. In fact, I myself would be willing to contend that it is a doctrinally FASLE concept, standing in conflict with the teaching of God's Word concerning our responsibility to edify and exhort one another, as well as the responsibility of faithful men to teach others also and of older, godly women to teach the younger. Sad to say; but even in Independent Baptist churches, false doctrine may be found. On the other hand, the "under-shepherd" term has developed through an implication from God's Word. Scripture DOES reference church leadership as shepherds. Furthermore, Scripture refers unto our Lord Jesus Christ as the CHIEF Shepherd, and that in a context wherein instruction is delivered to church leadership. (See 1 Peter 5:1-4) Thus the implication is taken that since our Lord Jesus Christ is the Chief Shepherd, and Holy Spirit appointed church leadership are shepherds UNDER His CHIEF authority, then such church leadership may be referenced as UNDER-shepherds. The term is actually intended to emphasize the submission, responsibility, and accountability of church leadership UNDER the authority of the Lord Jesus Christ.
  43. 5 points

    The Local Church.

    Acts 8: 1-3 and 9:31, “Persecution against the Local Church” Acts 8:1-3, “And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.” “… great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem;” After the martyrdom of Stephen, Acts 7:54-60, Saul, with the direct authority of the Jewish religious leaders, enacted a period of great persecution against the saints at the church at Jerusalem. As the saints went into hiding, even in their homes, Saul brutally persecuted them. “… and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.” Except for the apostles, the saints from the local church at Jerusalem scattered. The Meaning, and Description, of a “Local” Church A local church is where Christians assemble for the preaching, teaching, fellowship and evangelism. A local church is “regional.” The Region of Judea and Samaria Map is the courtesy of ConformingToJesus.com When the saints fled from the persecution of Saul some of them went to the region of Judea and Samaria. Judea is the region that surrounds Jerusalem and Samaria is north of Judea and Jerusalem. The saints that fled Jerusalem in the area surrounding Jerusalem preached the gospel and established churches in the various cities in the region surrounding Jerusalem. The saints that fled to the northern region of Jerusalem preached the gospel and established churches in the northern region. The assemblies of the saints were local, or regional, in location. The Apostle Paul, and Regional, or Local Churches “For we stretch not ourselves beyond our measure, as though we reached not unto you: for we are come as far as to you also in preaching the gospel of Christ: Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men’s labours; but having hope when your faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly, To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you, and not to boast in another man’s line of things made ready to our hand.” 2 Corinthians 10:14-16 The Region of Corinth Map is the courtesy of https://bibleatlas.org/corinth.htm On his second missionary journey, the Apostle Paul left the region of his local church in Antioch and traveled to the region of Corinth to preach the gospel and start a church. “To preach the gospel in the regions beyond you.” Every New Testament Church is “regional,” or “local” to the area that it assembles in. The church at Corinth was a regional or local church that was limited to its own area or region. The apostle Paul knew that the influence of a local assembly, in this case Corinth, was limited to a particular region; or local in scope and authority. The Churches, Plural, are rested from Persecution Acts 9:31, “Then had the churches rest throughout all Judea and Galilee and Samaria, and were edified; and walking in the fear of the Lord, and in the comfort of the Holy Ghost, were multiplied.” In Acts 9:1-30 we witness the dramatic conversion of Saul the Persecutor to become Paul the Apostle. The scriptures are abundantly clear that the “churches,” plural had rest from persecution. The scripture even names some of the regions that the churches were located: Judea, Galilee and Samaria. Two of the locations, Judea and Samaria, were mentioned previously with the third location, Galilee, the region north of Samaria, mentioned. The scripture is devoid of remarks concerning a “Universal Church.” The Universal Church and Acts 9:31 The King James Version reading of Acts 9:31 is very clear, “churches.” “Church” is singular and “churches” are plural. As mentioned before, the King James Version not only says “churches” but it also lists three distinct regions that the churches existed: Judea, Samaria and Galilee. The website, ‘gotquestions.org,’ article, a strong Universal Church proponent, on the question, “What is the difference between the universal church and the local church, states, “In Acts 9:31, the King James rendering of the plural word churches should actually be the singular church, which describes the universal church, not just local churches.”[1] The article does not specify a particular writer, nor does it specify a particular version, nor a particular Greek manuscript. The website creator is a para-church ministry of Mr. S. Michael Houdmann. Houdmann is a graduate of Calvary University and Calvary Theological Seminary, Kansas City, MO and uses the modern versions extensively. F. H. A. Scrivener’s Greek translation of the Textus Receptus, in Acts 9:31, gives the plural translation of the Greek word: plural: αἱ … ἐκκλησίαι .[2] Therefore, the King James translation is correct by word and description: the ‘churches’ plural, had rest after the persecution by Saul ceased. [1] “What is the difference between the universal church and the local church?” GotQuestions.org/universal-local-church.html [2] Scrivener, F. H. A., M. A., The New Testament, (The Trinitarian Bible Society: London, England), Cambridge University Press 1894 and 1902. Page238.
  44. 5 points
    This subject is so easily complicated because so many things are either mis-defined or mis-combined. For an example of mis-defined -- With some the Law of God now seems to referenced as if it were a "bad thing." Yet the New Testament Scriptures clearly teach that the Law of God is holy, and that the commandments of God's Law are "holy, and just , and good." (See Romans 7:12) For an example of mis-combined -- With some the commandments of men are sometimes referenced as if they were the Law of God. Yet our Lord Jesus Christ clearly taught that following after the commandments of men can cause our religious walk to be spiritual vanity. (See Matthew 15:9) For another example of mis-defined -- With some the New Testament truth that we have freedom in Christ is employed to teach that we may now do whatever we desire. Yet the New Testament Scriptures clearly teach that our liberty in Christ is NEVER to be used for an occasion to our selfish flesh. (See Galatians 5:13) For another example of mis-combined -- With some the New Testament truth that we are to walk after the Spirit, not under the Law, is employed to teach that the righteousness of the God's Law no longer matters in our Christian lives. Yet the New Testament Scriptures clearly teach that walking after the Holy Spirit will LEAD us to fulfill the righteousness of God's Law. (See Romans 8:4) So then, do the commands of God matter for the New Testament believer? Most certainly! For we can only walk in loving fellowship with the Lord our God AS we walk in obedience to His commandments. (See John 15:9-11) (Note: Not ALL of the Old Testament commandments are applicable unto the New Testament believer. Some ARE, while others are NOT. Biblical and Spirit-filled discernment is definitely required in this matter.)
  45. 5 points
    1 Corinthians 14:23 Also maybe James 2:1-3
  46. 5 points

    What would you do?

    If a lost person shows up at church, they should be shown the love of Christ, not slammed for their clothing...they're lost, they don't know any better. Perhaps instead of singling out that person or immediately talking trash about their wardrobe, maybe have a member of the congregation reach out to them in love and disciple them. No, I no longer wear pants most of the time, I wear dresses and skirts. BUT...if I had walked into a church wearing jeans and a t-shirt and was immediately run off, whatever spark of faith I had would have been quenched and I would have had my opinion of Christians reinforced. DO not be a stumbling block to these searchers...if they show up at church, their hearts are tender towards the Lord. Foster that, nurture that. In discipling them, they can learn the other standards. Remember, Jesus didn't toss anyone out for their clothing (or lack thereof)...why should we be any different?
  47. 5 points

    Leadership conferences?

    Interesting thought...........
  48. 5 points
    Not to beat a dead horse now that Davidjayjordan has been banned, but I want to say one last thing... To Davidjayjordan (if you return here to see what has happened since you've been banned...and I know you will), You need to repent, Repent, REPENT!!! You didn't like my usage of the word "repent"; in fact, you asked me not to use that word. I wondered, "Why would someone who claims to be a believer be offended at the use of a biblical term?" Pride? Perhaps... So I asked if this was more palatable to you... ...which is what "repent" means when enacted. However, you didn't respond to that. I don't claim to be right all of the time. In fact, I'm always glad when I'm shown that I'm wrong about things. I will say this as humbly as I can... You need to take some time to figure out if you're wrong about many things concerning God's word. From what you have personally shared here (and on your website), I have VERY strong reservations about anything you have to say concerning God's word and its interpretation. When I see the things that you say...and the things that you believe...I fear for you. I admire your boldness, yet your boldness is misplaced. God doesn't speak to us audibly today (as you have asserted in your testimony). We live by faith...faith in his word...the written word of God...the Bible. If you are trusting in an experience or signs (audible voices), then your faith is in the wrong thing. Yes, I said "thing". (Romans 10:17) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by...what? THE WORD OF GOD!!! Not voices. The written word of God is what gives us our faith...anything apart from that is false and to be shunned and avoided. I adjure you...look in retrospect at all that you have placed your faith in. Is it solely based on the written word of God?
  49. 5 points
    I have considered locking this thread for absurdity.....but then considered that it may prove valuable in the future to some others that may be confused by things such as this. In the future people can look at both sides of the controversy and plainly see that a self proclaimed Independent Fundamental Baptist cannot get even one person on an IFB forum to agree with him. Most of the people in opposition to Brother D's nonsense provide valid, Scriptural arguments, while he continually responds with his own opinions, even going as far as to try to convince others that Scripture is only the opinion of the translators, instead of Inspired Scripture. 1Tim 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do. Prov 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. 2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
  50. 5 points
    Please be in prayer for Bro. David Cloud. He is recovering from a heart attack. This is from his wife: "Just over 24 hours ago David suffered a pretty major heart attack. I took him into the emergency room around 2:30am where it was confirmed that he'd had a heart attack. The doctors took him in for an angioplasty but as his blood pressure had spiked so much, they had to wait to bring that down before proceeding. Into the procedure they discovered that the main artery on the right side of the heart was completely blocked. At that discovery the doctor stuck his head out of the door and asked me to pray (though he is a HIndu). The Lord blessed and they were able to open the artery and place a stint in. It was wonderful to watch the monitor and see the blood flowing again to that side of his heart! He is in CCU now and seems to be doing well, though the doctor says he will still be considered as serious until 72 hours after the procedure. So we do covet the prayers of God's people, and sincerely thank those who have been praying. Thank you so much. In Him, Linda"
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