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  1. 6 points
    HappyChristian

    Hubs in the hospital...

    I would appreciate prayer for my husband, Randy. I will try to sum up what seems to me a long story...but this is going to be long. I'm sorry about that! Thursday morning while Randy was at a client's home, he went out to shovel. In these parts, black ice is a real and present danger during the winter. Well, he fell on black ice. His right leg went under him, and his left leg hyper-extended. He managed to get up (he was right by the van's bumper) but fell again right away. He rolled to the pavement, where there was no ice. Got up and began going back to the house, and fell in the snow. Three falls within a matter of minutes. Someone with Factor V Leiden's isn't supposed to be doing those shenanigans. So he came home. How he got into the van, drove, and got up the steps into the house is beyond me - other than God helped him greatly. Because he could hardly walk at all. He got into a chair and I got the heating pad, etc. He thought it was a badly pulled muscle. By now it was almost 11 am. I knew he was in agony, because he would never, ever leave work for just a little bit of pain. He has a very high pain tolerance (many times I will notice him favoring something and will ask how he's doing - he always answers that he's fine...). So about 12:30 he said he thought I might need to call the ambulance. He didn't think he would be able to get down the stairs, down the icy hill, into the van with only my help (to take him to the emergency room). I let our son know, and he said he was getting off work to come help. By 1, Randy was certain he needed an ambulance. So I called them. They got there pretty quickly, thankfully. They were great. They couldn't bring in the stretcher because our ramp was too slick, so they used a blanket to carry him outside. As they rolled him, he hollered out in pain. We have been married almost 33 years, and he has gone through a lot of physically painful things. But I have NEVER heard him holler like that. Never. That was about my undoing. Our son had gotten here by then, but was waiting on the road by our driveway (due to the snow, there was nowhere for him to park if he came up the driveway, and he would have been in the way of the ambulance). He came into the house and headed straight for me to wrap me in a tight hug. That was absolutely what I needed at that moment. I was never more thankful that God moved him up here. So Josh drove me to the hospital. We were in the emergency room for hours as they tested him. (it seemed like years...especially when we saw the date the nurse had written on the white board: Feb 14, 2014. LOL) They found a DVT that was already on its way down his leg - it stretched from his groin to his knee (two years ago it went from his groin to his foot). Doctors have concluded that it is a result of his accident - physical trauma to someone with Factor V can quickly cause clots...and I guess he has to do even that all the way, with major clots LOL). They tried to have him stand. He almost passed out, so the doc laid him back down quickly. And he just laid there with a blank stare for about a minute. Scared me so very badly. So they brought in some pain meds and muscle relaxers, thinking that it might be a pulled muscle. An hour later, they wanted to try and have him stand again (they wanted to send him home, but they couldn't until they knew he could walk). He couldn't even sit with his legs over the bed (he was holding his left leg up so it wouldn't touch the bed and was still in so much pain). So they decided to admit him. He got to his room about 11:30 pm (and we time traveled from 2-14-2014 to 2-15-2019 LOL). We left the hospital about 12:30 and got back to our road a little after 1. Well, as I said, our private road doesn't get plowed. And nobody that lives on the road believes in shoveling, I guess. (Randy would have done some once we were plowed out had he had a chance). So great big piles of slushy frozen snow met us. With one set of tracks. Josh headed up the hill, got about halfway and started spinning. So he backed up - the snow pulled him over one of the frozen piles and we got stuck. Josh got out to check and we were good and stuck. He started doing what he could. As I sat there, I was a bit overwhelmed. So I began to pray. While I was praying, I reminded the Lord about how quickly He helped Peter when Peter cried "Lord, save me!". I told the Lord we needed immediate help. I kid yo not...within minutes (could have been seconds) I saw car lights coming down the road. Now, understand this is 1:30 in the morning, in a super-rural area. Folks are just not out and about during that time. ESPECIALLY in this weather (which is so unusual for this area). The man pulled up immediately and got out of his car. He looked things over, and then said he had a shovel. Now, we have a snow shovel that Josh could have walked up to the house and gotten, but he didn't want to leave me with the van sticking out onto the main road, and neither of us was crazy about the thought of me walking up the road. But our snow shovel is a regular, hard-plastic, wide shovel. His was not. His was metal. Smaller. With kind of pointed parts. The kind perfect for scraping away at ice. And the size just right for fitting in an area a regular snow shovel would have a problem with. You know, almost as if God knew something... He and Josh took turns using the shovel - he even got down on the ground to work at it. This complete stranger, whom I'd never seen before (and who actually didn't speak to me except to tell me to push on the gas slowly as they pushed the van). It took about half an hour, but we were unstuck! He told us we should get a hotel, but I couldn't leave my mom alone up there (and, to add to it - our furnace had gone out, but had just been fixed that day). So we tried it again, and got stuck again. The man was gone by now, but we weren't stuck so badly and it just took Josh a few minutes to free us. We parked the van on the main road, and he walked me up to the house. He had been going to stay the night, but we couldn't leave the van on the road all night. So he decided to go home and come back in the morning to take me back to the hospital. He got home, but couldn't get up his road - it was ice. So the poor guy had to go get a hotel after all (something the man kept saying we should do). Neither of us got much sleep that night. LOL But God is so good! So we visited Randy yesterday, but didn't stay long because we didn't want to be home to either of our places after dark. I can't go see Randy today, but I've talked to him on the phone (and Josh is going to see him on his lunch break). Randy had a rough night last night from the pain - even with the meds. So the doctor said they were missing something and sent him to have a CAT scan of his leg. They found a hematoma. Not something to normally worry about, but with someone on anti-coagulants it is a concern. The doc called the hematologist who worked with Randy two years ago and they agreed to take him off one of his blood thinners while he was in hospital (they had him on his regular Warfarin, but put him on Lovenox as well). They are keeping him on the Lovenox for now and so he has to remain in hospital longer so they can monitor the hematoma. Randy said something about the muscle as well, but he had gotten his pain meds by the time I'd talked to him, and coupled with the sleepless night was pretty drowsy. Anyway...would greatly appreciate prayer. Thank you for reading this mini book.
  2. 4 points
    HappyChristian

    Hubs in the hospital...

    Last night after I visited Randy, they put him back on blood thinner - Heparin, via IV. They had measured his leg and it was apparently smaller. That, coupled with the doctor finding that his leg had more give to it must indicate that the bleeding stopped. He told me this morning that the doctor told him yesterday that MAYBE he will be able to come home Saturday. They are thinking about putting him back on the warfarin. They'll keep him on the heparin as long as he's in the hospital, though , as a bridge to going completely to the warfarin. I don't know what we'll do about the DVT - if the thinners are dissolving it, there won't be need for surgery. Nothing definite about him coming home Saturday, and I am not getting my hopes up (well, trying not to, LOL). But this is definitely a good step. Yesterday his CK level was down a bit more, but they are still 16x too high. Specific prayer regarding that would be appreciated.
  3. 4 points
    1Timothy115

    10 - 2 - 7

    Ten years, two months, and seven days ago I joined Online Baptist (OB). Many were here before me, many have left the site, and many have since joined. OB has always been a great place to fellowship with other like minded believers and continues to be so today. This is a refreshing place to come and just read the remarks of others or comment as the Lord leads. All in all each of you have helped me to grow in my walk with the Lord. I look forward to continuing visits here until the Lord says otherwise. Thanks Matt for a great environment for IFB and IB alike.
  4. 4 points
    Alan

    What do you love about your church?

    I love the fellowship. I love the close relationship. I love the sincerity in worship. I enjoy going to church.
  5. 4 points
    Indeed, Matt, you reveal the answer in your response: 1. You feel that you NEED God and His Word, because the Lord and His Word are a priority in your living. Thus you also feel that you NEED a Biblically faithful church, its Biblically faithful edification, and its Biblically centered fellowship. 2. Others, however, hold the world and the things of the world as a priority. Thus they allow the world to entangle them and choke out their relationship with the Lord and His Word. They are thorny ground believers. As long as they remain entangled with the priority of this world, they cannot and will not bring forth spiritual fruit unto perfection. As long as they love this world and the things of this world, a true love of priority for the Lord is not in them. As long as they walk in such a loving friendship with this world through the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, they ARE walking at enmity with the Lord their God. There is NO middle ground with this matter. Remember, it is spiritually impossible to serve two opposing masters. Spiritually it is impossible to serve both the priority of our Lord and the priority of the world in our lives at the same time. We love the one (whichever one it is), and HATE the other. We hold to the one (whichever one it is), and DESPISE the other. No light matter spiritually according to the word usage of our Lord. (Sorry if I came on a little strong there. Having completed a book entitled, "In the World, Not of the World: The Believer's Relationship to the World," this subject is much on my mind at the moment.)
  6. 4 points
    Alan

    Pre-Trib or Post-Trib?

    Tej, Good question. In my studies of the prophecies of the Old Testament and the New Testament, long ago, I came to the conclusion that the coming of the Lord Jesus for the saints in the church will occur before the 7-Year Tribulation starts in Revelation 6:1 Since this last December, at our church I have been teaching a verse-by-verse study of 1 & 2 Thessalonians. Below is a chart that I made for that study. The chart is a "work in progress." And, I have already told the congregation that there will be an individual chart made for the five subjects covered in the chart. So, I am sure that there will be some changes (hopefully not major), in the weeks ahead. I do hope that the above chart on 1 & 2 Thessalonians will help answer your question. If there is something not understood on the chart, or if anyone has a question, or you see a mistake, please ask or discuss. Alan Note on February 11, 2019. I have done a detailed study on, "The Day of the Lord," and the book of Isaiah, and the fulfillment of Isaiah's prophecies in the book of Revelation, for my current study at our church. Due to the complexity of the, "Day of Christ," and "The Day of the Lord," I am in the process of revising the chart on 1 Thessalonians 5:2, "Day of the Lord," & 2 Thessalonians 2:2, "The Day of Christ" to make it more clearer and more precise. Once I am finished with the chart(s) I will attach the revised chart on this study and more appropriate passages from Isaiah. Alan
  7. 4 points
    I'm a missionary sent out of my local church. My home church receives and handles all my support and transfer funds to me as needed (bi-monthly set amount or as I request additional funds). My church set up a bank account with my name on it, but the finance team has access to it so they can transfer the funds as needed. Other than that they don't touch the money in that account. The church handles my income tax forms and helped with the legal paperwork that I needed to get my missionary visa, and as it was a learning experience for both the church and myself, there were some hiccups along the way as we learned what each of our legal responsibilities were. Whether a missionary chooses to go through a board, clearinghouse, or local church, they should put a lot of prayer into that decision and allow God to direct their steps.
  8. 4 points
    DaveW

    Church or Family of God

    This is an interesting subject....... For my part, it is more about going forward than looking backwards. As far as we can see in the Bible, churches are started by men sent out from other churches. What that means is that if someone wants to start a church they should do it with the proper authority from a sending church, just like in the Bible. But as far as history is concerned..... 1. If someone is relying on their past to prove their current standing they are on dangerous ground. Where does that church stand TODAY? 2. How would anyone prove lineage all the way back? With all the persecution and subsequent secrecy at times it is practically impossible and therefore practically useless. But just because a line of authority is impossible to prove in the past doesn't mean we shouldn't follow the biblical example of starting churches with authority. How your church does things today is far more important than history and heritage. Those things can be undone in a matter of weeks even, with the influence of one strong willed man. But a comparison to the Bible TODAY shows where a church is today.
  9. 4 points
    Matt Souza

    customer service

    @Kivancsi And/or @Kivancsi2 Let me address a few things here. 1) You have 2 accounts. Once is from May 2018 and the other is from today. Today you typed in the wrong email address when registering and send me around 10 emails telling me I put in the wrong email address and how hard it is to sign in. I will admit, when you register with the wrong email, it does make the registration process difficult. I will gladly fix this for you. 2) I can't speak for others, but you are right, I am a sorrowful person. That is one reason why I needed a savior. Praise God that He loved sorrowful me to send down His Son to die for me. 3) This site is 100% free. Since 2002, we never asked for any money here. However, if you would like to send me a donation I would gladly receive it and place the donation towards world wide missions. Thank you for your feedback. Edit to add: Your correct email address is already in use under @Kivancsi. To fix this problem, just sign in with that account, no need to re-register.
  10. 4 points
    By the way, Job also had an eternal security in his own future resurrection to stand with God through the power of his Living Redeemer. (See Job 19:25-27)
  11. 4 points
    Alan

    Sabbath Worship?

    I beg to differ. First, you are trying to make your own facts, using your own reasoning, to make a forced interpretation. You are judging us by your own two "facts." Whether or not there is a scripture verse, as you say, "rescinding" worshipping on the Sabbath day is immaterial to the saints in the New Testament church. Also, It seems to me that you are making it an issue, and judging us, to require the New Testament saint to worship on the Jewish Sabbath: Saturday, the sixth day. And, to state that the "status quo" is still in place. To me, this is a forced interpretation, an error, not binding on any saint, and is against the words of Paul the Apostle in Colossians 2:16 Did not Paul plainly state, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days." Colossians 2:16 Like the Seventh Day Adventists, it seems to me that you are forcing your own interpretations on the Sabbath issue and judging those who do not worship on the Sabbath.
  12. 4 points
    DaveW

    Saved before the Cross?????

    What about "OK David talks as though he is pretty certain"? It has nothing to do with what is preached in any church - it has only to do with what the Bible says. David's words are words of certainty - He says "I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." I will grant that the Bible doesn't actually say in this passage that he will go to him in Heaven, but the meaning is almost as certain as David's belief that they would be together again. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a result of the question I have started a quick study - I am by no means finished, but am already learning and enjoying it greatly. I thought to myself "If David could speak with certainty in the passage above, then surely he would have spoken something of it in the Psalms. So I started reading through Psalms with an eye to salvation specifically. It is important to understand that often the "salvation" that David speaks of in Psalms is physical salvation from attacking enemies, so we have to be careful to ensure we are talking about actual salvation, and not just the battles of this life. But I couldn't wait to add a couple of these in even before I have come close to finishing this study. And please read the passages fully, not just the portions I have quoted - context, context, context folks - don't just believe me. Psa 17:15 (15) As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness. Notice again the language of certainty - not maybe, but shall.... To me this sounds so much like: 1Jn 3:2 (2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And it sounds like David was looking forwards to this: 1Co 15:51-52 (51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, (52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. Praise God for this promise, that apparently David knew about also. Psa 20:1-9 (1) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The LORD hear thee in the day of trouble; the name of the God of Jacob defend thee; (2) Send thee help from the sanctuary, and strengthen thee out of Zion; (3) Remember all thy offerings, and accept thy burnt sacrifice; Selah. (4) Grant thee according to thine own heart, and fulfil all thy counsel. (5) We will rejoice in thy salvation, and in the name of our God we will set up our banners: the LORD fulfil all thy petitions. (6) Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand. (7) Some trust in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God. (8) They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright. (9) Save, LORD: let the king hear us when we call. I know it doesn’t talk about eternal security as such, but it is a wonderful explanation of salvation by David. I love the portion from vs 6 and 7 “Some trust in chariots, and some in horses” “but we will remember the name of the Lord” Sounds like salvation by grace through faith and not of works…… Psa 21:1-7 (1) To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The king shall joy in thy strength, O LORD; and in thy salvation how greatly shall he rejoice! (2) Thou hast given him his heart's desire, and hast not withholden the request of his lips. Selah. (3) For thou preventest him with the blessings of goodness: thou settest a crown of pure gold on his head. (4) He asked life of thee, and thou gavest it him, even length of days for ever and ever. (5) His glory is great in thy salvation: honour and majesty hast thou laid upon him. (6) For thou hast made him most blessed for ever: thou hast made him exceeding glad with thy countenance. (7) For the king trusteth in the LORD, and through the mercy of the most High he shall not be moved. Wow. Just WOW!!!! The king shall rejoice in God’s salvation, and when HE ASKED LIFE OF GOD, GOD GAVE IT TO HIM, even length of days…… FOR EVER AND EVER!!!!!!!!!!! Can I just say “Kapow!!!!!” that looks like smoke coming from that gun right there….. And that is just a quick look through the first part of the book of Psalms, and that is without quoting the Psalms that I came across that imply eternal salvation without stating it plainly. I could have probably taken a passage from about half of the first 20 Psalms that I think are hinting at it. Thanks for the challenge - I will enjoy the continued study of this subject - probably won't hear much from me for a while now...….
  13. 3 points
    Matt Souza

    Text message

    Good point. I'll need the $25 million in order to pay for the money transfer. I promise I'll pay the $25 back after I get the $25 million.
  14. 3 points
    John Young

    Cards/Passports

    Chips are not mentioned in Revelation. They are just a form of technology. A lot of "revelation teachers" (who are really conspiracy sensationalist) like to equate tracking software for the "Mark of the Beast". The mark of the beast will most likely be a form of human tracking and transaction technology but its placement in scripture is after the Abomination of desolation and is in response to the "Lord's Mark" given to the 144,000. Basically, in the tribulation and after the rapture, before you can receive it you must swear allegiance to the Anti-Chrsit under full knowledge that it is in opposition to the Lord's mark of that time. It is also made clear that those who receive were never saved. Therefore, if you are saved now, by full trusting on Christ alone for your redemption, then you have no ability to ever take that mark. Revelation 13:5-8 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Revelation 14:9-10 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: Ezekiel 9:4 and the Lord said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.
  15. 3 points
    Matt Souza

    10 - 2 - 7

    It's great having you here. An ovation goes out to the Mods here that do a great job moderating the site to keep it safe.
  16. 3 points
    Matt Souza

    Questions

    We as Independent Baptist, do not have any diocese that is led by anyone outside of that local church. Each local Independent Baptist church is exactly that, Independent. And in general, Baptists do not allow same sex marriages as it goes against what Scripture teaches. We love the people and would love to see them come to know Jesus Christ as their personal savior but have to stick with what Scripture teaches and this area is sin.
  17. 3 points
    DaveW

    Questions

    I have very little to add to Jim's statement. My point in making the correction is that as independent Baptists (individual and independent churches) we try to follow what the Bible says. If you would like to read 1 Timothy 3: 1Ti 3:1-7 (1) This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. (2) A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach; (3) Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre; but patient, not a brawler, not covetous; (4) One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (5) (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (6) Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall into the condemnation of the devil. (7) Moreover he must have a good report of them which are without; lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. I will point out to you that the term bishop is a biblical term, but not in the way the Catholic church uses it. I will further point out to you that the term "husband" in vs 2 is specifically masculine in its meaning and application, thus prohibiting the appointing of women to the position of bishop, pastor, elder (the three interchangeable and biblical terms for a pastor), and further more the term "wife" in vs 2 is specifically feminine, thus restricting the partner of a bishop (pastor, elder) to being a woman. I know that many groups try to change this passage to say "spouse of one spouse", but the language used absolutely does not allow it, therefore a Pastor, bishop, Elder, must be a man, and his spouse must be a woman. The KJV uses those terms because they are gender specific and they accurately reflect the meaning behind the words. Thus, according to the Bible, a woman cannot be a Pastor, and a member of a same sex couple cannot be a Pastor. In both cases they do not fit the biblically laid out qualifications. The church you contacted probably does not want to put in writing something that could open them up to lawsuit by those who seek to damage Christianity. And no, Independent Baptist Churches are not ruled over by a governing body. We are individual separate churches, who on occasion will join together to fellowship with like minded churches, but we do not have any authority over one another.
  18. 3 points
    As the pastor of the church I really appreciate a few things. 1) The love that the church has for my wife and family. We started the church 3 years ago and do not collect a salary yet, but the church has been very kind and gracious to us. 2) The love that the church has for God. Our folks are hurting, struggling and broken, but they keep on keeping on in serving the Lord. I have been blessed.
  19. 3 points
    I love our church because she is the pillar and ground of the truth. She is the shining city on the hill, whose members with the power of the Holy Ghost restrain sin in our community. She loves the Lord and serves him faithfully in all that she does.
  20. 3 points
    Jim_Alaska

    Francis Chan and John Ramirez

    I know I sound like a broken record, but I just can't help it. This kind of thing is exactly why I continue to say that folks have no need to go outside of their own local church. To do so only opens us up to not only bad preaching, but also to dangerous preaching. It is especially dangerous for those who may be newly saved and not grounded in The Word.
  21. 3 points
    The following note (minus my parenthetical comment and a spelling correction), is from the latest email received from Pastor Richard Owen's Prayer Letter Google Group. Bro. Alfred Willis (Pastor of Life Baptist Church, Saint Stephen, SC) had a heart attack today, he has a blockage in a stent, now in ICU, keep him in prayer.
  22. 3 points
    Jim_Alaska

    The Cost of a Soul

    The Cost of a Soul We are a cost conscious people. We always want to know the cost of what we are going to buy, or even the cost of what someone else has bought. Food, clothes, car, house, or vacation; we want to know the cost. We would never dream of buying anything without first finding out how much it cost. But how many in the Christian world consider the cost of their belief system, their salvation, or their soul? First let me say that I am not suggesting that these things need to be considered and weighed to determine if salvation is worth the cost. No; what I want to examine is more in the realm of appreciation for those things that we many times just take for granted in regard to our salvation. This applies more to an actual realization, after the fact, that there is a cost to these things. While it is true that salvation is a free gift from God to me, it is also true that my salvation has a cost attached to it. Even though a soul has infinite worth to both the Creator and the created, it is not something that we can put a dollar value on. The value of a soul must be measured in a spiritual sense, rather than a worldly sense. The creation of the first soul is recorded in Gen.2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Even though man is in possession of this soul, it belongs to God by right of creation: Eze. 18:4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Text: Mt. 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul? God, in His infinite grace, has allowed man to have a say in what happens to his soul. In the world of religion we call this “free will”. We won’t get into the controversy regarding man’s free will and God’s foreknowledge and predestination; that’s a subject for another time. But it is needful to point out that while we yet draw breath, while we remain alive; we have a choice regarding what will happen to our soul once we lay down this physical life. Deut. 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live: Once this body goes into the grave, the soul that God gave it goes back to Him. At that time, what He does with it will totally depend on what we have, or have not done with it in this life. I say this so that you might consider what the present condition of your soul is. Is it still dead in trespass and sin, or is it alive to God? Eph. 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; Rom. 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Now let’s look at the cost of a soul to a Christian. He gives his life and trusts God to sustain him. Luke 12:22 And he said unto his disciples, Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat; neither for the body, what ye shall put on. 23 The life is more than meat, and the body is more than raiment. 24 Consider the ravens: for they neither sow nor reap; which neither have storehouse nor barn; and God feedeth them: how much more are ye better than the fowls? 25 And which of you with taking thought can add to his stature one cubit? 26 If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest? 27 Consider the lilies how they grow: they toil not, they spin not; and yet I say unto you, that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28 If then God so clothe the grass, which is to day in the field, and to morrow is cast into the oven; how much more will he clothe you, O ye of little faith? 29 And seek not ye what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink, neither be ye of doubtful mind. 30 For all these things do the nations of the world seek after: and your Father knoweth that ye have need of these things. 31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you. He subjects himself to the ridicule of the world. 1Cor. 4:10 We are fools for Christ's sake. 1Cor. 4:13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day. Turning to Jesus for the salvation of his soul costs him his former friends. Mat. 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Mat. 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. I have experienced this first hand. I used to be one of the ones who ridiculed and shunned Christians. But then, once I actually turned to Christ for Salvation I found that those who had been friends before now shunned me. Next on my list of the cost of a soul to the Christian is his money. Luke. 12:33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. 34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. It costs real money to build church buildings. If The Lord wants a church building in a specific place He will supply all that it takes to accomplish His will. The means by which he accomplishes this is through His people. It is not right for God’s people to turn to the world to build their church building. Many churches err in this kind of thinking. They set out to build a church building and immediately obligate God and their fellow church members to the world through worldly financing schemes. This does not honor God. My God is not a beggar that He needs to turn to the world to build His house. What hypocrisy we practice in paying usury to worldly institutions. Psm. 127:1 Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it. I have a very low opinion of churches holding bake sales, raffles, and yard sales to finance the work of God. I firmly believe that the work of God should be financed wholly by His people. Some might argue, “But we don’t take in enough money to build a building.” To this I would answer with a question; Are we walking by faith or by sight? David is an excellent example of the provision to be made for the building God’s house. Although he wanted to build God’s house, God would not allow him to do so. But that didn’t stop him from preparing for it. 1Chron. 22:5 And David said, Solomon my son is young and tender, and the house that is to be builded for the LORD must be exceeding magnifical, of fame and of glory throughout all countries: I will therefore now make preparation for it. So David prepared abundantly before his death. 1Chron. 22:3 And David prepared iron in abundance for the nails for the doors of the gates, and for the joinings; and brass in abundance without weight; 1Chron. 22:14 Now, behold, in my trouble I have prepared for the house of the LORD an hundred thousand talents of gold, and a thousand thousand talents of silver; and of brass and iron without weight; for it is in abundance: timber also and stone have I prepared; and thou mayest add thereto. 15 Moreover there are workmen with thee in abundance, hewers and workers of stone and timber, and all manner of cunning men for every manner of work. 16 Of the gold, the silver, and the brass, and the iron, there is no number. Arise therefore, and be doing, and the LORD be with thee. David spent his fortune to prepare for the building of God’s house. And what of mission work? Perhaps we ourselves cannot go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature; but we can certainly financially support those who do. What a wonderful blessing it is to see God work through His people, to see Him accomplish the impossible, humanly speaking. I have seen this concept work regarding mission work in Far East Russia. Two whole missionary families surrendered to go and start a mission work in an inhospitable country. The financial aspect of such an effort was seemingly impossible. But by faith we, as a church, took on the responsibility of sponsoring this work. We were a small congregation of less than forty members. God rewarded our step of faith in a miraculous way. Word of our missionary work spread and finances began to come in from sister churches all over the nation. And last, but not least is the cost to Christians and churches for relief of the poor, both in our midst and also those outside of the church. Last in the cost of a soul to the Christian is his time. Sadly, many church members today think that showing up for church services Sunday morning fulfills his obligation to serve God. It would come as a shock to some church members who believe this to see their service to God and church put in its proper perspective. God gives us 168 hours of time in every week. Out of that time, we give back to Him 1 hour. Our time can be one of the most precious elements we can use to serve our God, as well as our fellow man. A Christian who realizes his responsibility to his God will find that there is a huge list of demands on the time God has given him. To list just few will be sufficient. Time for personal study and worship; time for preparation in his service, whether it be in presenting God’s word, or even for being a real help to others; time to prepare to witness and testify for his Lord and Saviour. 2Tim. 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. He must not neglect time to serve his church in secular ways. For instance, the pastor of a church is called by God to preach the Gospel, teach and exhort his church members, and to be the leader that God has called him to be. Is it reasonable to expect that God’s man also perform the mundane, secular responsibilities of things such as; being the bus driver, mowing the lawn, maintaining the building; cleaning the church and cleaning toilets? Is it reasonable? My answer to my own question is NO! These are all functions that church members should take on as part of their service to God. The pastor has his ministry, but individual church members also have their ministry. Many people do not understand that a ministry is not confined to only spiritual things. Since this sermon is progressing into more of a book than a sermon, I would like to move on to: The cost of a soul to God. God has moved all heaven and earth to regain the fellowship that was lost when man fell in Adam. All of bible history, which includes all of this earth’s history, has as its goal the redemption of fallen man. For almost 6,000 years God has used many different methods in His plan to redeem man. Our bible is just one example. In it He gave the law and ordinances as pictures of his purpose for man. Throughout the Old Testament he gave prophets to verbally speak to man about His purposes. They literally gave man the messages that God had for them. He gave us kings and people of all kinds as illustrations of his great truths. In the New Testament he shows us Grace, repentance and faith, which leads us to Him. The cost of souls resulted in great anguish of heart and great sorrow on God’s part. In Gen. 1:31 We have a record of God’s finished work in creation; as he created it, it was very good. And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. But disobedient man changed all that was good of God’s work in creation: Listen as God pleads with those he named as His people: Mat. 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! Separation from the Son was just a part of the cost of men’s souls to God. In John 17:5 we read the prayer of Jesus concerning this separation and His yearning to have it restored. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. The cost of souls to God was so great that only God could pay it. The God of all heaven and earth came down in the form of His son to pay the price that only He could pay. Joh. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. In the end it cost Him the life of His son. For me he had to not only forsake His only son, but to also punish Him for my sin. The words of Jesus on the cross attest to this when he cried out. “My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?” Mat. 27:46 The cost of a soul to Jesus. He died the horrible death of the cross for me. His entire life on this earth was spent for the benefit of others. He had no home, no social life. His life was spent walking the length and breath of Israel, for the sole purpose of seeking and saving lost mankind. Never once do we find him complaining or thinking of himself. He never did anything for his own benefit. His sole purpose in life was to accomplish His father’s will and reconcile man to God. In John 5:30 Jesus says, “I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.” The God of heaven walked this earth clothed in flesh. How could that cost him? It cost him in that, he was God, and lowered himself to the place of man. He put aside all that he had as God for me. John. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. So, after all that has been said we come to the inescapable conclusion that while salvation is free to me, there is a cost. There is great value placed on man’s soul and that price was so great that God had to pay for it himself. John. 3:16
  23. 3 points
    Jim_Alaska

    SITE ISSUES

    I find acceptance of Ms Word document formatting very useful. This is especially so when writing a long post in MS Word to be pasted into a post. As most folks know, many times you can write directly into a post on a forum only to lose it when it is submitted. I always recommended that people write out their long posts, like sermons and devotions in their word processor and then paste it into their post on a forum. It saves a lot of work and frustration. Thank you for considering this BroMatt.
  24. 3 points
    Jim_Alaska

    Repo

    Although this has the capacity to hurt you and your ministry, I would advise that you not beat yourself up too much about this. I say this because, although you are responsible in the end, this is not your doing. In my experience there may be two things you could do. One is to go directly to the lending company and explain the situation. Offer to fully catch up on the payments and to pay in a timely manner from now on. Normally lenders will react favorably to this and work with you. They don't want the car they want the money and need assurances. The second thing you could do is to pay of the balance including back payments and late charges, even if you have to borrow from somewhere else to do it. making this right and favorably resolving this matter will go a long way toward your state of mind as well as your qualifications. I am not sure what a bi-vocational pastor is, but if you have a senior pastor over you be sure to discuss this with him, especially as you work toward a remedy.
  25. 3 points
    DaveW

    How does one fast?

    Could I suggest you to you, that rather than worrying about fasting and such like, you go right back to basics and read through some passages like: Rom 3:23 (23) For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Think about what that verse is actually saying, and ask if it applies to you as well. For the ones that the first verse there applies to, they need to look at verses like: Rom 6:23 (23) For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. I would like you to note that as the verse is talking about opposites, the "death" spoken of is the same as the "Life" spoken of in one respect - it is eternal. Where does that leave the one who the first verse applies to? Is there a solution to that problem? Joh 3:16-18 (16) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (17) For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. (18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. So if God sent His son to offer eternal life to sinners through their belief in Him, what does that look like? How does a sinner "believe" properly? What does it take? Rom 10:9-13 (9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. Consider these passages, and maybe read through the book of John - but consider these passages, what they are saying and does any of that apply to you, and should you pay attention to what it is saying? Can I let you in on a little secret? These passages absolutely apply to me. This is far more important that any discussion you might have on fasting - but if you really want those answers - the simple explanation is to abstain from something so that you may concentrate on worshipping the Lord. It is often food, but doesn't have to be. But the other verses I mentioned are by far the most important thing to study (and there are more to consider as well, but that is a basic starting point).
  26. 3 points
    heartstrings

    He Hath Chosen Us

    "Correlating the two concepts" of "God choosing us before the foundation of the world" with "our responsibility to trust Him" is a non-issue. God's choosing us for salvation is not even what Ephesians 1:4 is about: the point of God's choice is "......that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.”. Ephesians 1:4 actually can be explained more with Matthew 5:43-48 and 1 John chapter 4. Because love is God's very nature and it is God Himself who predetermined that we be as He is; that is, we are to walk in love, to love not only our loved ones, but our neighbor and even our enemies. God knows who will be saved and who will not, but that doesn't stop Him from loving those enemies and from drawing them to Himself anyway because Matthew 5:43-48 says so. I find no problem "correlating two concepts" because no such two concepts exist.
  27. 3 points
    Rebecca

    Questions about deputation

    Yes, but not in the area of being sent out of my local church. As I went out on deputation and later furlough, the vast majority of pastors I talked with were very pleased with my decision to go through my local church and not a board. I primarily visited churches located in the midwest and Michigan, so I'm not sure what pastors elsewhere in the country would say about it. As far as my church being able to send me finances as we have it set up, it has not been an issue once we figured out how to transfer the funds. Although I don't know the legal differences -if any- between Alberta and Ontario concerning missionary visas, I know a missionary family in Toronto, Canada you might want to get in touch with, they may be able to speak to you about how to come to Canada as a missionary or any other questions you may have concerning boards (I believe they went out of BIMI). I hope it helps. Cory and April McTague email: (messaged)
  28. 3 points
    Rebecca

    The beauty of creation

    Yesterday I had taken a walk around some tide pools and by chance happened to startle a puffer fish, which I only noticed because it had puffed up due to my startling it. I managed to get a photo of it before I moved and it apparently thought it was no longer 'trapped' and so deflated and swam away. I wasn't able to get a photo of it deflated. It amazes me that it has such an unusual defense mechanism. I have seen them un-inflated in aquariums before but this was the first time I've seen one puffed up and in its natural habitat. I believe this one is a White-spotted puffer.
  29. 3 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Sabbath Worship?

    The Purpose of the Old Testament Sabbath: 1. A day of rest through spiritual worship with and for the Lord. Exodus 20:9-10 -- "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: but the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates." 2. One day in every seven to be hallowed unto the Lord. Exodus 20:11 -- "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it." 3. A sign between the Lord and the children of Israel concerning the Lord's sanctifying work upon them. Exodus 31:13 -- "Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you." 4. A sign and seal of the perpetual covenant between the Lord and the children of Israel. Exodus 31:16-17 -- Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed." _________________________________________________ However, as a New Testament believer I am not a member of the Old Testament/Covenant. When our Lord Jesus Christ brought in the beginnings of the New Testament/Covenant, He did not intend simply to put a new patch upon the old. (See Matthew 9:16-17) Rather, He intended to establish a new body. (See Ephesians 2:11-22) This is the Biblical mystery concerning the New Testament church. (See Ephesians 3:1-12) Even so, the SHADOW of things to come are now past; and the New Testament body of Christ is now present. (See Colossians 2:16-17) For the children of Israel, the Sabbath day looks back to the creation, their deliverance from Egypt, and the sanctifying covenant of Sinai. For the New Testament believer, gathering on Sunday looks back to the resurrection of Christ, the gift of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost, and the establishment of the New Testament body of Christ.
  30. 3 points
    Salyan

    Questions about deputation

    it's not just cutting a cheque, though. Depending on the country of origin, the country they're heading to, and the missionary/church's own 'standing', for lack of a better word, there may be: a. income taxes/deductions to be calculated and sent to the government b. if the missionary is out of the county, the sending church/board may need to handle the personal tax forms on their behalf as well c. handling any issues that arise as a result of said deductions (dealing with the taxman is no joke!). d. maintaining any necessary legal paperwork - what about things like maintaining health coverage for when they're back in country (this even from a Canadian perspective with social medicine - I imagine there would be documentation needed to maintain US health insurance as well)? what legal paperwork might a foreign country want completed from the sending church/board? e. handling/investing retirement funds on their behalf, if applicable (IMO, it's a good thing for a missionary to save for retirement, just like anyone else) f. reporting monies received back to donating churches, creating income tax receipts if applicable, handling the charitable status side of things there (man, am I glad our church is not a charity. That's a whole 'nother mess). These things require time, knowledge and a certain attention to detail. From my experience, even cutting a cheque to pay them can get messed up badly merely from having a poorly-trained church secretary handling them. How many of our churches - especially up here in Canada - have the funds or available persons to pay/find an experienced financial secretary? I'm not making a statement for/against boards, just pointing out that there are a lot of legal, financial, and legislative details that can go into properly handling something like this. I personally think very few of our little western Canadian churches would be in a position to properly handle this.
  31. 3 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Sabbath Worship?

    1. John 20:19 -- "Then the same day at evening, being the first day of the week, when the doors were shut where the disciples were assembled for fear of the Jews, came Jesus and stood in the midst, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you." 2. Acts 2:1 -- "And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place." (Note: According to a Biblical understanding of schedule, the day of Pentecost was ALWAYS on the first day of the week, Sunday.) (2nd Note: This was the very day hand-picked by God the Father and God the Son Themselves to send forth the baptism and empowerment of the Holy Spirit upon the New Testament church, the body of Christ. In my own estimation, this FACT is the most significant New Testament reason for the assembling of a church body on Sunday.) 3. Acts 20:7 -- "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight." 4. 1 Corinthians 16:2 -- "Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come." I am not aware of any New Testament passage which indicates that the primary purpose for the assembling together of a New Testament church is for the purposes of "rest and worship." Rather, the New Testament seems to emphasize that the primary purpose for the assembling together of a New Testament church is for edification and worship. Now, the Hebrew word "sabbath" means "rest" (not "seventh"); and the Hebrew Sabbath days were indeed for "REST and worship." However, this is NOT the case for the New Testament church. Indeed, those things were "a SHADOW of things to come; but the body is of Christ." (See Colossians 2:16-17) The shadow is now past; the body is now present. I myself have no desire to return unto the SHADOW of the Old Testament. Rather, I myself desire to walk in the present reality of the New Testament BODY.
  32. 3 points
    Alan

    Questions about deputation

    Jim brought up a valid point that I am compelled to add thereunto. 1. Some boards require the missionary to set apart, usually every month, funds for retirement. These funds are usually either kept by the board or in an account set up by the board. Depending on the board, if the missionary leaves the board before his retirement the funds are forfeited. 2. Some boards require the missionaries to set up other funds: housing, furlough, emergency funds, etc. Depending on the rules of the board, the board, or its representative, has the final say so if the missionary receives these funds when the missionary requests these funds. 3. If the missionary purchases a house on the foreign field, some boards require the missionary to have the house in the name of board, or its legal representative on the field. For your information. Most boards have a "Field Representative," or some other setup, in order to have personal contact with the missionary. The "Field Representative" is in effect a controlling factor over the missionary. For Taiwan, most boards have a "legal" representative that holds title to the house and not the missionary. Depending on the board, if the missionary leaves the board than the house is not his. In other words, he loses the house. 4. Insurance. Most boards require the missionary to have Health insurance through the board or a Insurance Company recommended by the board. If the missionary leaves the board than there is a strong possibility that the Health Insurance is forfeited and the missionary may be required to pay for medical expenses out of his own pocket. 5. Most boards have the final say so in any situation not covered by the rules. Conclusion. Just about every board has its own rules. The missionary normally learns of these rules at Candidate School. If the board changes in doctrine, integrity, or in organization, than the missionary either changes with the board or he is asked to leave and forfeit his benefits accumulated during his tenure with the board. Alan
  33. 3 points
    Jordan Kurecki

    Questions about deputation

    I believe CMC is a worthy mention for this thread.
  34. 3 points
    Man alive I am glad I found this site. I believe this site will be an incredible resource to me in the next few months. This is good stuff right here.
  35. 3 points
    Alan

    Questions about deputation

    Under the "FAQ" the CMC states: 3. WHAT IS CMC'S PHILOSOPHY OF MISSIONS? Basic to the philosophy of CMC is the concern that a missionary be sent to the field without control by outside organizations of people, other than his home church, his supporting churches and the Holy Spirit. In practice, this means we do not dictate to the missionary how he spends his money, how much money he can receive, or how or where he works. Agreement between CMC policies and the missionary requires certain divisions of income, such as personal support, ministry support and ministry expenses, which are for the missionary's protection. Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord but also in the sight of men." (2 Cor. 8:21) The missionary's financial arrangements are confidential to us and any information must be given by the missionary, not by our office. 4. WHAT ARE YOUR QUALIFICATIONS FOR MISSIONARIES? There are no qualifications such as age limit, health, education, etc. The procedure for using CMC’s services is as follows: A missionary is sponsored by the church where he is a member. He is recommended by his own pastor and commissioned by his home church. In addition, he must have the recommendation of two other fundamental Baptist pastors. These three pastors (that he has chosen) become his “Mission Board.” Each missionary candidate is screened and qualified based upon the recommendation of his sending and sponsoring churches. The integrity and character of every missionary is of vital importance to CMC. 5. WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY FUNCTIONS OF CMC? CMC exists to serve the churches and missionaries by processing funds for missionary endeavor. We receive gifts from the donors, issue tax-deductible receipts, accumulate the funds in each missionary’s account, prepare complete reports for the missionaries and in every way we know, provide information for the missionary that will be helpful in his relationship with the churches. Our ministry includes getting the funds to the missionary by the last business day of the month, using whatever method agreed upon with the missionary. On the missionary’s instructions, we maintain savings accounts, building funds, furlough funds, emergency funds, etc.; we make bill payments, insurance premium payments and keep up hospitalization and retirement programs, as well as making quarterly tax payments. We also provide legal documentation that is necessary on the field in which they serve, as well as verifying the financial information needed by the missionary and validating their income as required in their personal and professional endeavors. A personal Note. Please notice the highlighted red ink portion of their statement. There are some countries that require a "legal" missionary board. The CMC supplies that need. FYI. Our support as missionaries is through our home Church and the CMC. Alan
  36. 3 points
    Alan

    Questions about deputation

    The Central Missionary Clearinghouse is a ministry from a local church, the Central Baptist Church, Houston, TX, Pastor Larry Maddox, and operates as a "mission handling agency" and not a "board." https://www.cmcmissions.org/ The CMC has no "Candidate School," and no control over the missionary family.The CMC helps with the "funds handling only." The is no "board" at the CMC. Apart from the local church supporting a missionary directly from their local church as Jim Alaska wrote, the only other method I would even suggest is the Central Missionary Clearinghouse.
  37. 3 points
    Jim_Alaska

    Questions about deputation

    Why a mission board at all? It is the responsibility of your local church to send you as well as help support you. Do your own deputation, have your sending church collect the mission offerings and disperse to you. You really don't need middlemen in the mix.
  38. 3 points
    I was going to mention Job 19:27 but Pastor Markle beat me to it. Also take a look at Psalm 23 where David said "and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever". David, also, was "secure" in the knowledge of where he was going to spend eternity..
  39. 3 points
    Pastor Scott Markle

    Sabbath Worship?

    As Alan pointed out just above, this is incorrect. Colossians 2:16-17 states, "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moons, or of the sabbath days: which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." This New Testament passage speaks concerning a series of subjects that existed under the Old Testament Law -- 1. Meat requirements. 2. Drink requirements. 3. Holyday requirements. 4. New moon (sacrifice) requirements. 5. Sabbath day requirements. This passage teaches us the following about these subjects that existed under the Old Testament Law -- 1. No New Testament believer is to be judged in relation to these matters. (Thus they are NOT a New Testament requirement.) 2. These Old Testament matters were only a SHADOW of things to come in the New Testament. (Thus they were to be replaced by the New Testament reality.) 3. The body of Christ (the church) has now come as the New Testament reality. (Thus the New Testament church, having come, has now replaced the Old Testament shadow.) ________________________________________________________ Concerning the first day of the week, Sunday -- 1. Our Lord Jesus Christ was resurrected on the first day of the week, Sunday, making it the day to represent the new life of the new covenant and of the New Testament church. 2. The first day of the week, Sunday, was the day directly chosen by the God the Father & God the Son upon which to send forth the gift of the indwelling Holy Spirit and thereby to empower the New Testament church. (For the Day of Pentecost is and always has been on a Sunday.) 3. Acts 20:7 specifically mentions the first day of the week, Sunday, as the day "when the disciples [New Testament believers] came together to break bread [most likely a reference to the celebration of the Lord's Supper]." 4. In 1 Corinthians 16:2 the apostle Paul specifically instructed the New Testament church at Corinth to collect their financial offering "upon the first day of the week." 5. Remember that the New Testament church is built upon the foundation of the New Testament apostles and prophets, "Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone," not upon the Old Testament law and prophets.
  40. 3 points
    Talked with Brother Taylor earlier this evening (first time we've spoken since the wreck) and and long story short, it's a miracle he's alive! He's understandably still very sore and on some meds, but he preached yesterday morning, saying the LORD gave him a message at 3AM that morning, so reckon he was supposed to preach it! Still pray for him, his family and church, as he still has some recovery ahead. Thanks for reading, praying and sharing!
  41. 2 points
    HappyChristian

    Hubs in the hospital...

    @Matt Souza - thank you. Prayer is the best thing all around right now! I so appreciate it, and your offer. I visited Randy a bit today. There were a couple of men from our church there, which was nice. After they left, we talked for a few minutes, but he got really sleepy. He had a rough night, so he went to sleep. I read for a while, waiting for him to wake up. They took him down this morning for a CAT scan on his leg. We were waiting for the results. The doc never came in, but the nurse told me the results. The hematoma is still bleeding. It has not gotten any worse, praise the Lord, but it hasn't gotten any better. They took him off all his blood-thinners and are giving him Vit. K to try and get it to stop bleeding. He can't have the IV heparin until the bleeding stops, so the hematoma and the DVT have no chance to even begin dissolving. His CK count is down a bit, but still almost 3x too high. He is still anemic, and will remain so until the bleeding stops (he might need a transfusion as well). And now they are giving him insulin, so apparently his blood sugar has gone wonky. Happily, he was able to take 3 walks today - from the bed to the door, so not very far. But it's progress. After the last one, his pain level was at 7, so he was happy to get the pain medicine. I thank you for the prayer. I am so thankful that there are people all over the world praying for him. He's only been in the hospital for 4 days, but this house is sure lonely without him. God is most definitely helping me to deal with this, although I am a bit weepy. I have to admit that I'm scared. I know God is in control, though, and am thankful for that. It's supposed to sleet here tomorrow, so I don't know if I'll get to go visit him.
  42. 2 points
    While I would word this welcome letter differently, I do think some of our churches should be more welcoming of others. While our church welcomes all, we do not change our preaching based on who is there. The Word of God will make some feel uncomfortable because of their lifestyle, but welcomed because they are loved. The Word of God changes lives. We extend a special welcome to those who are single, married, divorced, gay, filthy rich, dirt poor, yo no habla Ingles. We extend a special welcome to those who are crying new-borns, skinny as a rail or could afford to lose a few pounds. We welcome you if you can sing like Andrea Bocelli or like our pastor who can’t carry a note in a bucket. You’re welcome here if you’re “just browsing,” just woke up or just got out of jail. We don’t care if you’re more Catholic than the Pope, or haven’t been in church since little Joey’s Baptism. We extend a special welcome to those who are over 60 but not grown up yet, and to teenagers who are growing up too fast. We welcome soccer moms, NASCAR dads, starving artists, tree-huggers, latte-sippers, vegetarians, junk-food eaters. We welcome those who are in recovery or still addicted. We welcome you if you’re having problems or you’re down in the dumps or if you don’t like “organized religion,” we’ve been there too. If you blew all your offering money at the dog track, you’re welcome here. We offer a special welcome to those who think the earth is flat, work too hard, don’t work, can’t spell, or because grandma is in town and wanted to go to church. We welcome those who are inked, pierced or both. We offer a special welcome to those who could use a prayer right now, had religion shoved down your throat as a kid or got lost in traffic and wound up here by mistake. We welcome tourists, seekers and doubters, bleeding hearts … and you!
  43. 2 points
    It's no doubt that mobile is the future. Stats on Online Baptist shows that our users are now evenly divided in between desktop and mobile. If you read the subject line, you may be wondering, what in the world is PWA? In short it stands for Progressive Web App. Pretty much Progressive web applications are web applications that load like regular web pages or websites but can offer the user functionality such as working offline, push notifications, and device hardware access traditionally available only to native applications. Still reading this? Good. What this means is simply that we have partially enabled PWA on this website. Pretty much what you can do right now is when browsing Online Baptist on your phone (Android) you can click the settings button in Chrome and then Click "Add to Home Screen". What that will allow you to do is add a shortcut on your phone as an icon and browse Online Baptist as a web application. It still is a work in progress and hopefully by the end of this year I will have it converted into an apk so that it can be downloaded from the Google play store. Just keeping you updated on the progress of Online Baptist. Thank you for being part of this community.
  44. 2 points
    DaveW

    Coming pole shift

    I believe it has nothing to do with any sort of "pole shift". Your linking this verse to the pseudo scientific theory of "pole shift" is wrong on every level. The Pseudo scientific "pole shift" theory has to do not with the physical poles, but with the magnetic poles reversing polarity, ie, the north pole MAGNETICALLY becomes the sought pole, and vice versa. It has nothing to do with any sort of physical rotation of the earth across its axis. I haven't done a full study of this chapter yet, but it seems as though it is talking of a great devastation that would come upon the land, but I don't think it means the earth will literally turn over. Tell me Eric, what does this verse mean? Act 17:6 (6) And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; My points are primarily that you, by your title, have linked the phrase "earth upside down" to a pole shift, but the pseudo scientific theory of pole shift DOES NOT refer to a physical shifting of the poles but the magnetic shifting of the poles; and secondarily, that the phrase earth upside down, does not automatically mean a physical turning of the world upside down. I am currently studying Isaiah, and in about 2 years time when I eventually get to Isaiah 24 I will let you know my thoughts specifically - if I remember after all that time.
  45. 2 points
    Matt Souza

    What do you love about your church?

    Let's start an encouraging thread as it seems that the negative many times is "louder" than the positive in our churches. What is your favorite thing about your local church, what do you love about it?
  46. 2 points
    *Light*

    [VICTORY OVER SIN]

    Hello Family of God, "[COME NOW], and [LET US REASON TOGETHER], saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool." (Isaiah 1:18) This message will be divided into sections because of the length of it. "For this cause [I BOW MY KNEES] unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, Of whom [THE WHOLE FAMILY IN HEAVEN AND EARTH IS NAMED], That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to [BE STRENGTHENED WITH MIGHT BY HIS SPIRIT IN THE INNER MAN]; That Christ may [DWELL IN YOUR HEARTS] by faith; that ye, being [ROOTED] and [GROUNDED] in love, May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the [BREADTH], and [LENGTH], and [DEPTH], and [HEIGHT]; And to [KNOW THE LOVE OF CHRIST], which passeth knowledge, that ye might [BE FILLED WITH ALL THE FULLNESS OF GOD]." (Ephesians 3:14-19) PART 1: Brackets and ALL CAPS are used for [EMPHASIS]. Please excuse my grammatical inaccuracies and errors in punctuation; as I am a fallen creature who is capable of making mistakes here on Earth. Though some of my words may seem harsh, it is never my intention to verbally harm others in a negative manner; but rather it is to stir wayward Christians to be faithful slaves of the LORD, and to urge the unrepentant who may think that they are saved but are not; that they may surrender their hearts over to the Lord God so that they may be saved -- because tomorrow is never promised to anyone (cf. Ps. 90:12; Prov. 27:1; Rom. 13:11; 2 Cor. 6:1-2; Eph. 5:15-17; Jas. 4:13-15). I have to wake up each morning to such absurdities on the local news discussing topics as: are these two muppets gay? This is what the news has devolved into; whether two inanimate objects are gay! Or about some celebrity in Hellywood taking up almost 15 minutes of airtime. There are terrorists, wars, famine, and people dying all over the world because of neglect; and this is the GARBAGE that is at times referred to as "BREAKING NEWS". "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, [THE SPIRIT THAT NOW WORKETH IN THE CHILDREN OF DISOBEDIENCE]: Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others." (Ephesians 2:2-3) The Good News of the Gospel has been veiled to those who are on their way to destruction; because the god of this world has BLINDED the minds of these lost men and women; and they are being controlled like puppets by an entire host of nonhuman entities that occupy the realm above, below, and on Terra Firma (2 Cor. 4:3-4; Eph. 2:2-3; Col. 1:16; Rev. 6:15; 9:3-10; 13:1,11-18; 12:7). A man or woman who is not being constantly led by the Spirit can easily fall victim to the desires of unclean spirits; and such people do not need to be "possessed" by such unclean entities in order for them to influence the disobedient who are under the control of the present age of the world (cf. Matt. 12:43-45). Even Christians can be inflicted by nonhuman entities as a result of disobedience, chastisement, to keep him/her in submission to God through humility, or to keep a Christian on their toes (2 Cor. 2:10-11; 12:7-9; Eph. 4:26-27; 6:12; Jas. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:8). I have prayed unceasingly to the LORD for wisdom, spiritual discernment, and understanding concerning the rapid decline of morality in today's world; not only of those who are part of the world system (cf. 2 Tim. 3:3) -- but those who "profess" to be Christian . . . and undoubtedly, there are also MANY who are deluded into believing that they have been "born-again" while being completely devoid of the Holy Spirit; so they often say to themselves, "why can't I achieve victory over my struggle with my sins?" I will discuss in length on how the TRUE CHRISTIAN can overcome any sin/s that they are easily entangled in (Heb. 12:1). "And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tablets out of his hands, [AND BRAKE THEM] beneath the mount. And he took the calf which they had made, and burnt it in the fire, and ground it to powder, and strawed it upon the water, and made the children of Israel drink of it." (Exodus 32:19-20) Moses had discovered that the Israelites had made a graven image of THE ONE TRUE GOD. A man-made "representation" of THE ONE TRUE GOD is a false form of worship because they were worshiping the THE ONE TRUE GOD in the WRONG WAY -- and this is tantamount to IDOLATRY. This kindled the righteous indignation of Moses, and as a result; ALL TEN COMMANDMENTS WERE BROKEN as Moses shattered the tablets at the foot of Har Sinai/Horeb. Idolatry will consequently lead to rebelling against the rest of the Commandments. Our Golden calf will in no doubt lead to an inability to keep the Golden rule (Matt. 7:12) -- let alone, the Greatest Commandment of them all. If the Greatest Commandments [CANNOT BE KEPT], then a habitual practice of breaking the rest of the Commandments will naturally follow the rebellious heart, and then defiance against THE ONE TRUE GOD. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any [GRAVEN IMAGE], or [ANY LIKENESS] of [ANY THING THAT IS IN HEAVEN ABOVE], or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments." (Exodus 20:4-6) PART 2: Here is the general outline on what I will be discussing regarding the believers battle with sin. You can also examine their Cross References to get a better understanding of their contexts. Born from above and filled with Divine Love: (Jn. 1:12; 3:3; (Jn. 15:10; 1 Cor. 13:4-7; Eph. 3:17-19; 1 Pet. 4:8; 1 Jn. 4:16; Rom. 10:9-10; Eph. 2:5-6; 2 Cor. 5:17; Col. 2:13; 1 Pet. 1:22-23) Insubordination and Submission: (Ps. 68:6; Prov. 28:9; Isa. 63:10; Jer. 5:23; Lk. 6:46; Rom. 8:7; Heb. 3:15; Jas. 1:22) Bad Doctrine/Theology and Ungodly Living: (Matt. 23:1-39; Rom. 16:17-20; 2 Cor. 11:14-15; 1 Tim. 4:1; 2 Tim. 4:3-4; 2 Pet. 3:16; Rev. 22:18-19) Love Conquers Sin: (Rom. 8:28; 37-39; 13:8; 1 Cor. 13:4-8; Gal. 5:14; Col. 3:14; 2 Thess. 3:5; 2 Tim. 1:7; 1 Pet. 1:22; 4:8; 1 Jn. 4:12) Inward Renewal and Obedience: (Ps. 51:6,10; Rom. 2:29; 12:1-2; Col. 3:10-12; 2 Cor. 4:16-18; Eph. 4:23; Gal. 2:20) The Absolute Necessity of Prayer: (Matt. 6:9-13; 21:22; Mk. 11:24; Jn. 14:13-14; 15:7; Rom. 8:26; Eph. 6:18; Phil. 4:6-7; 1 Thess. 5:16-18; Heb. 4:16; Jas. 5:16; 1 Jn. 3:22; 5:14-15) Abiding in the Vine [CHRIST]: (Jn. 8:31; 14:23; 15:4; Rom. 6:1-23; 8:1; Col. 3:1-3; 1 Jn. 2:6; 3:6,15,24; 4:15; 2 Jn. 1:9) Pride and Humility: (2 Chron. 7:14; Prov. 3:34; 11:2; 16:5; 18:12; 29:23; Obad. 1:3; Mic. 6:8; Jas. 4:6-10) Walk in the Spirit: (Ps. 119:105; Rom. 8:14; 2 Cor. 5:7; Gal. 5:16; Eph. 2:10; 5:8,15-16; 1 Jn. 2:6; 3 Jn. 1:3-4) Trusting in The Absolute Sovereignty of Almighty God: (Ps. 9:10; 37:4-6; 56:3; 62:8; 91:1-2; 112:7; 91:1-2; Prov. 3:5; 16:20; 29:25; Josh. 1:9; Nah. 1:7; Isa. 12:2; 26:3; Jer. 17:7-8; Jn. 14:1; Heb. 11:6; 13:6; Jas. 1:6; et al.) Resisting the Devil: (2 Cor. 2:11; Eph. 4:27; 6:12-13; 2 Tim. 2:26; Heb. 2:18; Jas. 4:7; 1 Pet. 5:8-9) Avoiding any type or form of the Occult or Sorcery: (Deut. 18:10-12; 2 Chron. 33:6; Jer. 27:9; Mal. 3:5; Gal. 5:19-21; Rev. 18:23) Confidence in the LORD and NOT Spiritual Overconfidence in ourselves: (Ps. 27:3; Prov. 3:26; Rom. 12:1-3; 1 Cor. 10:12; Phil. 4:4-7; Heb. 10:35-36; 1 Jn. 5:14) Keeping the Commandments and The Joy of the Lord: (Neh. 8:10; Ps. 5:11; 16:11; Jn. 15:11; 16:24; Rom. 12:12; 14:17; 15:13; Gal. 5:22; Phil. 4:4; Jas. 1:2; 1 Pet. 1:8-9) "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: [HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS IS RIGHTEOUS], even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for [HIS SEED REMAINETH IN HIM]: and he cannot sin, [BECAUSE HE IS BORN OF GOD]. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: [WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS IS NOT OF GOD], neither he that loveth not his brother." (1 John 3:6-10) I will be focusing primarily on the doctrine of sin (Hamartiology); but there are theological subsets contained in Scripture which tie in to the understanding of how one is to live a Holy life pleasing to the LORD through discipline, obedience, and complete submission to His Will. One of the main reasons why there is a decline in morality, purity, and holiness within the church visible today is due to the fact that there are MANY Pastors, evangelists, and preachers alike who are unwilling to discuss the topic of sin out of fear that their listeners will turn their ears away from this crucial Truth and sever ties with them. The Word of God is NOT to be compromised, even if and when these messengers of God feel under the gun. Perhaps they fear persecution; or maybe they are willing to compromise the Truth knowing that there is a high probability that they may "lose" the "respect" of their friends or loved ones -- and those whom they are closely yoked up with. Those who "profess" to love the Lord will be put to the test; and He will separate these hypocrites who were willing to compromise the Word of God rather than having their feet planted firmly on solid ground (cf. Deut. 13:3; Matt. 10:32-33; Mk. 8:38; 2 Tim. 1:8; 1 Pet. 4:16). "Thy word [HAVE I HID] (Heb. "tsaphan" צָפַן; "to treasure up") in mine heart, that I might [NOT SIN] against thee." (Psalm 119:11) "Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by [PRAYER AND SUPPLICATION] with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall [KEEP YOUR HEARTS AND MINDS] through Christ Jesus." (Philippians 4:6-7)
  47. 2 points
    Matt Souza

    Profile Photos

    We just performed an update to the software that we are using. One of the issues that we will be fixing soon is the profile pictures that have been reset to the default picture. You can either change/update your profile picture yourself, or wait until the next update. I apologize about the inconvenience.
  48. 2 points
    wretched

    How does one fast?

    Hey friend There is only one correct answer to this. Follow the instructions at the bottom of this link page and you will live. Faith comes only by hearing His Word. https://www.jesussaidwhat.com
  49. 2 points
    Lookingfortruth, I am partly ashamed to admit this but at the same time hoping to encourage you on the same level. When we were looking for churches, my wife actually led the charge. She found a church she liked. We had been there before. I had family who attended it. I had no clue what their doctrine was at first, just that it was a Baptist church. I didn't learn it was independent until a year or so later. I had a thirst for knowledge. I had my thirst quenched at this church and haven't looked back. I am ashamed that my wife led the charge when it should've been me but it was HER faithfulness to truth that brought me along.
  50. 2 points
    John Young

    Sabbath Worship?

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