Time once again for the real Sport to start

[chev1958]

Strategy, planning, driver skill, team performance, engineering, and guts are all part of what it takes to win. NASCAR beats stick and ball sports hands down.

I wasn't going to say anymore about this, until you made the "stick and ball sports" comment. Notice the one thing you didn't mention in your list of NASCAR requirements? Athletic ability. There's no athletic ability required for NASCAR. Skill? Yes. Endurance? Yes. Athletic ability? No. NASCAR is competition, but not sport. NASCAR tests the ability of mechanics to build a better machine than the competition. Where's the athletics in that? How many other sports allow the competitors to sit for the entire event?

And while I agree that NASCAR has not yet reached the depravity of real sports teams and individuals, just give it time. Playing around with the fuel is just the tip of the iceberg. And if you look at its history, there's plenty of shenanigans to talk about. And NASCAR is becoming a soap opera.

I don't hate NASCAR. I grew up with it, back when my heroes King Richard, Buddy Baker, and David Pearson were fighting it out every week. I just find it pretty boring nowadays. Maybe because it's all corporate today, and a bunch of pretty boys. Back when I was growing up, almost anybody could race - now, the lure is just not there anymore.

Mitch

[Tim]

:loco I knew someone would jump on the sports thing. The drivers are not athletes :nutty , these guys endure 4 hours or more of extreme temperatures (120*+), they have to have the hand eye coordination of a pro golfer or NFL wide receiver. Their sport requires spilt second reflexes and hitting a wall at 190mph is as intense as being tackled by the biggest lineman in the NFL. When driving a road course they control three pedals at the same time while shifting with one hand and steering with the other. They maintain a heart rate similar to a marathoner during a race. There are no breaks between plays like in baseball or football. The G forces stress every muscle in their bodies. Drivers have been know to lose 10 lbs of water from their bodies during a race, for a 200 lbs man that is 5% of his body weight. Not athletes ? Really ?

Oh lets not forget about the crew. These guys can change 4 tires, put in a full tank of fuel, clean the windshield, adjust the chassis, and clean the grill in less than 15 seconds. Tell me that doesn

[Pastor Matt]

Tim, according to those definitions you need to be in shape, but not an athlete. :wink

[IM4given]

Oh lets not forget about the crew. These guys can change 4 tires, put in a full tank of fuel, clean the windshield, adjust the chassis, and clean the grill in less than 15 seconds. Tell me that doesn

[Flourgirl]

I like Bobby Labonte.... but I am starting to like Gordon also..... can't stand Stewart :smile

[Tim]

I like Bobby Labonte.... but I am starting to like Gordon also..... can't stand Stewart :smile

Bobby Labonte is one of my favorites, my wife was a huge Terry Labonte fan (before he retired). I am a Jeff Gordon fan from way back and Tony Stewart has a knack for doing something dumb everytime I strat liking him a little

Tim, according to those definitions you need to be in shape, but not an athlete.

Nope, :nono: NASCAR Driver and crew fit the definition perfectly. Their sport requires a person who is trained or skilled in exercises that require physical strength, agility, and stamina :tease:

[chev1958]

Their sport requires a person who is trained or skilled in exercises that require physical strength, agility, and stamina

So does climbing a set of stairs. :peek:

[Pastor Matt]

So does climbing a set of stairs.

Cool, Grandma is an athlete!! :lol:

[Tim]

Cool, Grandma is an athlete!!

Main Entry: ath·lete
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina

I guess so if she did it for a prize or was in a stair climbing contest.

[loyaldefender]

I'm with Tim on this, except I'm not a Jeff Gordon fan, but I do respect his abilities. :cooldude:

Racing is a sport, it is not just driving around in circles. It is a "team" effort. This team must work well together to win. It requires skill, physical prowess, endurance, and it is very competitive. Sounds like a sport to me.

[Tim]

I'm with Tim on this, except I'm not a Jeff Gordon fan, but I do respect his abilities. :cooldude:

Racing is a sport, it is not just driving around in circles. It is a "team" effort. This team must work well together to win. It requires skill, physical prowess, endurance, and it is very competitive. Sounds like a sport to me.

Great minds think alike :java: :thumb

[chev1958]

It requires skill, physical prowess, endurance, and it is very competitive.

So does playing "Age of Empires" online.

Machine verses machine is not sport. Using your definition, tractor pulls and mud boggin' are sporting events as well.

[kevinmiller]

So does playing "Age of Empires" online.

You mean it doesn't? :jawdrop:

[loyaldefender]

Machine verses machine is not sport. Using your definition, tractor pulls and mud boggin' are sporting events as well.

Actually I was using a definition from a dictionary.

Machine vs Machine.
You know, there are folks inside them.

[Tim]

So does playing "Age of Empires" online.

Machine verses machine is not sport. Using your definition, tractor pulls and mud boggin' are sporting events as well.

Sorry Mitch I can't change the meaning of words in the English language because you disagree. Racing is so much more than machine vs. machine, it involves driver and team ability, skill, strength, agility, and stamina.

http://www.m-w.com/
Main Entry: 2sport
Function: noun
Date: 15th century
1 a: a source of diversion : recreation b: (edited due to possibably offensive wording) (1): physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2): a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in

Main Entry: ath·lete
Pronunciation: 'ath-"lEt, ÷'a-th&-"lEt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin athleta, from Greek athlEtEs, from athlein to contend for a prize, from athlon prize, contest
: a person who is trained or skilled in exercises, sports, or games requiring physical strength, agility, or stamina


Perhaps you could stand the physical rigors of 500 laps at Bristol Motor Speedway but I know I couldn't. The strain on the Driver