Bible version debates or discussions

[JerryNumbers]

Do you think debates about Bible versions between believers does the least bit of good for those who have not been saved?

Does defending the KJ Bible at all cost and at all times bring glory to God?

Bible version debates & discussion, what's your opinion, where and when should we debate & or discuss this?

[Guest Guest]

I think it is profitable for the unsaved to know about the true Bible. I can say that I would not be saved today were it not for realizing first that the King James Bible was THE word of God and that the others were counterfeits. I needed a final authority, since the different Bible's say different things, before I could even understand. So for people like me, it was monumental that we know that first.

[John81]

I think it is profitable for the unsaved to know about the true Bible. I can say that I would not be saved today were it not for realizing first that the King James Bible was THE word of God and that the others were counterfeits. I needed a final authority' date=' since the different Bible's say different things, before I could even understand. So for people like me, it was monumental that we know that first.[/quote']



I don't think we need to debate the issue, in a place like this, among those of us who already believe the KJB is THE Bible. I mean, there is no need for us to debate it since we already are in agreement. However, when those come along who attempt to promote another version I do believe we should put forth the error of the MV and point out why the KJB is THE Bible.

That said, for those who just want to argue or post on the topic just to stir trouble, there is no point in us casting our pearls before swine; as it were.

[Annie]

I don't know how to vote, since I am not sure what the poll's "official" question is.

Do you think debates about Bible versions between believers does the least bit of good for those who have not been saved?

Not to contradict MrsW out of hand, but I don't think so. (I don't believe the KJV is the only accurate translation of the Scripture.)

Does defending the KJ Bible at all cost and at all times bring glory to God?

That depends on what you mean by "defending the KJ Bible." If you mean affirming belief in God's Word even in the face of persecution from the world, then my answer would be yes. But if you mean aggressively attacking or criticizing fellow believers who use different Bible versions, then I'd have to answer no. If you mean telling Japanese believers that they have to learn Elizabethan English in order to really understand God's Word, then I'd also say no.

This issue has been one of the most divisive ones among believers in our area of the country. IMO, it's just a travesty...the wrong "hill to die on." I have complete respect for KJVO people who hold their opinions humbly and quietly, but the loud, abrasive ones have done much harm to the cause of Christ.

[JerryNumbers]

At all cost would mean you would not take nothing else into consideration, that is you worry not the least bit about some unsaved soul that might be present who this may extremely confuse to the point he or she might never accept the Lord as Savior. There could be other things to consider as well. But some people never consider anyone else.

6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;

7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;

8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

Eccl 3:6-8 (KJV)

[Pastor Matt]

I have complete respect for KJVO people who hold their opinions humbly and quietly' date=' but the loud, abrasive ones have done much harm to the cause of Christ.[/quote']
That has nothing to do with KJVO. Loud and abrasive with any doctrine can harm the cause of Christ.

[Annie]

You're right! I was just saying that there seem to be some loud and abrasive voices (at least that I am aware of) that are associated with this particular doctrine, and that make this their "soapbox issue." Many have even chosen to "separate" over this issue, not allowing preachers who aren't KJVO to speak in their pulpits (even if these preachers use the KJV in their own pulpits, and are "KJV preferred"). The Christian camp/conference center at which I live has been denied recruiting access to a certain college, on the basis that we are not KJVO. (Although we are not KJVO by conviction, we do require all preachers here to use the KJV in our pulpit, and all of our summer counselors to use the KJV with their campers--but that's not good enough for this particular institution.) This is what I mean when I say that certain people have made this an unnecessarily divisive issue.

[Marcus2Israel]

I gotta say, if you are gonna argue Bible versions, do it with believers! Unbelievers don't understand spiritual things!! An unbeliever can get saved by the corrupt translations just as well as by the KJV. However, the corrupt translations do hinder growth and will leave most readers confused at the contradictions that exist only in those and not in the KJV. Don't try to teach an unsaved person anything but how to be saved. If they don't believe in Christ there is no point in argueing Bible Versions.

*Steps off his soapbox* :lol

[tired]

I believe the KJV is the only bible that is from the right texts. I do not believe the writers were inspired though, no double inspiration. I think that the men who translated the KJV had the right text and translated it properly. That being said I do tell other christians I am only KJV and I do point out some errors of the others and the blatant heresy in many more. I won't break fellowship with believers who use an NIV, NJKV, or others that are pretty close, but The Message and some horrible paraphrases I will. Cause most of the people who use these heretical ones usually go for all kind of blasphemy.

[ptwild]

Don't know if you all are aware of this but thought I'd add it just in case: The Anglican Church (which produced the KJV) now uses the New Revised Standered Version, which is a revisitation to the text used in translating the KJV. The only difference is that they have updated the language from Elizabethan to modern and corrected any of the mistakes in translation which they discovered post printing of the KJV. In any event, the NRSV has footnotes which tell if there is any other translation which may come from another ancient text. If you haven't seen one, I would highly suggest it.

[JerryNumbers]

I gotta say, if you are gonna argue Bible versions, do it with believers! Unbelievers don't understand spiritual things!! An unbeliever can get saved by the corrupt translations just as well as by the KJV. However, the corrupt translations do hinder growth and will leave most readers confused at the contradictions that exist only in those and not in the KJV. Don't try to teach an unsaved person anything but how to be saved. If they don't believe in Christ there is no point in argueing Bible Versions.

*Steps off his soapbox* :lol

I'm with you.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.
16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.
1 Cor 2:14-16 (KJV)

And for the same reason.

One must be saved before they can comprehend spiritual matters.

Chose depends on where the debate is. As with a lot of matters, one needs to consider who is present and if it will be beneficial.

[kevinmiller]

I gotta say, if you are gonna argue Bible versions, do it with believers! Unbelievers don't understand spiritual things!! An unbeliever can get saved by the corrupt translations just as well as by the KJV. However, the corrupt translations do hinder growth and will leave most readers confused at the contradictions that exist only in those and not in the KJV. Don't try to teach an unsaved person anything but how to be saved. If they don't believe in Christ there is no point in argueing Bible Versions.

*Steps off his soapbox* :lol

I've never seen a different version hinder growth or confuse its readers. Is this something that you've seen first-hand?

[Marcus2Israel]

I've never seen a different version hinder growth or confuse its readers. Is this something that you've seen first-hand?

Well I know if I would have been reading one and noticed the errors in it I would have lost faith in God and His Word. The KJV happens to have no errors while the MV's do. If you want I can dig up the charts on all the errors in the MV's.... And we can get into a long discussion that will get the topic closed... lol

[John81]

I've never seen a different version hinder growth or confuse its readers. Is this something that you've seen first-hand?

For myself, I know that when I was first led to read the KJB I immediately experienced more growth in Christ than ever before. I was also suddenly able to memorize Scripture with relative ease. The Holy Ghost opened my eyes and the Scriptures truly came alive to me.

From personal experience, I'd estimate that over 95% of Christians I've know who use the NIV had a very weak faith. They were weak in the Word and seemed easily misled.

The strongest, most mature and grounded Christians I've known all used the KJB.

All of this is just my personal experience but you did ask for what we have seen first-hand.

[JerryNumbers]

I've never seen a different version hinder growth or confuse its readers. Is this something that you've seen first-hand?

I've seen MV's confuse people, when we are reading from the Bible and their MV does not have the same thing in it. That person wanted to know why his was different. We told him, he said this is confusing me, I'll get rid of this NIV and next week I will have a KJ Bible so that I don't get so confused. He did, that was the end of that confusion.

I've seen this happen many times.