'Those deaths were preventable': Unvaccinated parts of country are driving the pandemic now

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

2 hours ago, John Young said:

So instead of growing metaphorical on us..... All I want to know is if you believe any viruses exists and if not, do you believe things can be transmitted from person to person that can cause sickness?

People everywhere can be healed if they do what is right.  (few are ever taught or learn what is right)

If they trust pharmacy or government or man,  they have failed from the start.

Whether or not I believe or do not believe in the existence of viruses doesn't matter, does it ?

Whether or not I believe things can be transmitted from person to person doesn't matter either, does it ?

In Ephesians 2, it does not say the whole world is under the power of the prince of the air , the devil, 

due to being influenced at all by other people,  does it ?    No,   just being born,  people are flesh,  and are subject to the prince of the power of the air.   Few are ever set free from the power of the devil, the power of the world, and the power of sin.

Everyone starts dead in sin and trespasses - they do not "catch" something important from others - they are born that way,  according to all that is written in Scripture, Revealed by the Father in His Word.

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2 hours ago, wretched said:

 

"China and their free trade created western globalists understand the value of repeating lies. The Bolsheviks, nazis and the CCP used repetition of lies to achieve their power. Joe has been given his marching orders to keep pushing the shots and he will do as told. That is the what main stream Media brainwashing is all about. Brainwashing does not change the mind through critical thinking, it conditions the mind through repetition. And if anything is true about the main stream media outlets, it is repetition. Satan's boob tube has done its job well.

However, once the mind is washed this way, there is no getting it back.

The brainwashed suffer cognitive dissonance

when confronted with facts

that go against the repetition

regardless of how delusional the repetition is. "

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Except for the Creator's Grace to a few,  all would perish.

[Bouncing Bill]

15 minutes ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

People everywhere can be healed if they do what is right.  (few are ever taught or learn what is right)

If they trust pharmacy or government or man,  they have failed from the start.

Whether or not I believe or do not believe in the existence of viruses doesn't matter, does it ?

Whether or not I believe things can be transmitted from person to person doesn't matter either, does it ?

In Ephesians 2, it does not say the whole world is under the power of the prince of the air , the devil, 

due to being influenced at all by other people,  does it ?    No,   just being born,  people are flesh,  and are subject to the prince of the power of the air.   Few are ever set free from the power of the devil, the power of the world, and the power of sin.

Everyone starts dead in sin and trespasses - they do not "catch" something important from others - they are born that way,  according to all that is written in Scripture, Revealed by the Father in His Word.

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"China and their free trade created western globalists understand the value of repeating lies. The Bolsheviks, nazis and the CCP used repetition of lies to achieve their power. Joe has been given his marching orders to keep pushing the shots and he will do as told. That is the what main stream Media brainwashing is all about. Brainwashing does not change the mind through critical thinking, it conditions the mind through repetition. And if anything is true about the main stream media outlets, it is repetition. Satan's boob tube has done its job well.

However, once the mind is washed this way, there is no getting it back.

The brainwashed suffer cognitive dissonance

when confronted with facts

that go against the repetition

regardless of how delusional the repetition is. "

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Except for the Creator's Grace to a few,  all would perish.

“Discussion is impossible with someone who claims not to seek the truth, but already to possess it.”
― Romain Rolland, Above The Battle

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

2 minutes ago, Bouncing Bill said:

“Discussion is impossible with someone who claims not to seek the truth, but already to possess it.”
― Romain Rolland, Above The Battle

 

The news media, the medical system, the government system and agencies have no knowledge of the truth, as far as they have demonstrated,  and as far as any of the posts you have made show. 

 

However,

According to the KJV,  the disciples  of Jesus do/did already possess the truth,  and they know/knew they possessed the truth,  and the Apostles also knew that the disciples possessed the truth, including TODAY.

1 John 2:20-22

King James Version

²⁰ But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

²¹ I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

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The Apostles and disciples of Jesus discussed many things with others,   but would not give in to nor believe nor follow the lies of society,  medicine, government, or other religions or idolatries.

Thus,  The Apostles and disciples of Jesus found discussion possible with others, even though the Apostles and disciples of Jesus already possessed the truth and they often,  daily , shared the truth with others, just as we do who post the truth for you to read,  even if you deny and oppose it.

You may quote and follow Romain Rolland if you wish.  

We follow Jesus ourselves.   (Ekklesia, Baptists, Jesus' disciples)

 

 

Having never heard of him,  I checked-  here is the pagan (see last bolded line, underlined) news about Rolland.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

 

 

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Romain Rolland
Romain Rolland, 1914
Born	29 January 1866 Clamecy, France
Died	30 December 1944 (aged 78) Vézelay
Occupation	Dramatist essayist art historian novelist musicologist
Period	1902–1944
Notable awards	Nobel Prize in Literature 1915
Spouse	Jify Romain Rolland, m. 1934-1944; Clothilde Bréal m. 1892-1901

Romain Rolland (French: [ʁɔlɑ̃]; 29 January 1866 – 30 December 1944) was a French dramatist, novelist, essayist, art historian and mystic who was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1915 "as a tribute to the lofty idealism of his literary production and to the sympathy and love of truth with which he has described different types of human beings".^[1]

He was a leading supporter of Josef Stalin in France and is also noted for his correspondence with and influence on Sigmund Freud."

[Martyr_4_FutureJoy]

As to "preventable deaths",  why would the medical system or the government be interested ?   It was known and published well before 1970 that medical system and medical errors were the fastest growing cause of deaths in the usa (and likely worldwide).    ill gates recent polio vaccine in africa cause over 30,000 cases of polio symptoms now diagnosed as something instead of polio,   after many years with no cases of polio at all.   The deaths from any virus might never be known,  since 5 trillions of dollars are at stake.

excerpts from online search:

"Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors

"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

"Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada, Australia, …

 

"Death By Medicine | Science-Based Medicine

"https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-by-medicine/

"It's evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251. To show what's wrong with this reasoning, let's substitute "food" for "medicine."

"Our prescription drugs kill us in large numbers

":https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/

"Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe. Around half of those who die have taken their drugs correctly; the other half die because of errors, such as too high a dose or use of a drug despite contraindications."

 

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This and tens of thousands of other sites, studies, and speeches by licensed ama drs,  ceos of bigpharm companies,  scientists,  biologists and microbiologists all show very plainly and very simply for the last century that government power and medical /financial power has corrupted, not helped, and they cannot be trusted at all.   Very much like big (and other) churches?

[John Young]

4 hours ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

Whether or not I believe or do not believe in the existence of viruses doesn't matter, does it ?

Whether or not I believe things can be transmitted from person to person doesn't matter either, does it ?

I would still like you to answer my two questions as I'm trying to have an actual conversation with what you believe fundamentally and scientifically on the topic. A clear and simple yes or no to each will let me know if you actually agree with the article you posted and then with those simple answers we can actually have a productive conversation.

I'm not interested in all that other speculative stuff about big pharma, governments or etc. Theirs no real substance there. So far all your non-answers to my questions does not give an solid foundation for a real conversation. I agree with you about proper health etc. and a simple straight forward answer will help build that.

Edited July 9, 2021 by John Young

[Bouncing Bill]

11 hours ago, jeff_student_of_Jesus said:

As to "preventable deaths",  why would the medical system or the government be interested ?   It was known and published well before 1970 that medical system and medical errors were the fastest growing cause of deaths in the usa (and likely worldwide).    ill gates recent polio vaccine in africa cause over 30,000 cases of polio symptoms now diagnosed as something instead of polio,   after many years with no cases of polio at all.   The deaths from any virus might never be known,  since 5 trillions of dollars are at stake.

excerpts from online search:

"Your Health Care May Kill You: Medical Errors

"https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28186008/

"Recent studies of medical errors have estimated errors may account for as many as 251,000 deaths annually in the United States (U.S)., making medical errors the third leading cause of death. Error rates are significantly higher in the U.S. than in other developed countries such as Canada, Australia, …

 

"Death By Medicine | Science-Based Medicine

"https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/death-by-medicine/

"It's evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251. To show what's wrong with this reasoning, let's substitute "food" for "medicine."

"Our prescription drugs kill us in large numbers

":https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25355584/

"Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe. Around half of those who die have taken their drugs correctly; the other half die because of errors, such as too high a dose or use of a drug despite contraindications."

 

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This and tens of thousands of other sites, studies, and speeches by licensed ama drs,  ceos of bigpharm companies,  scientists,  biologists and microbiologists all show very plainly and very simply for the last century that government power and medical /financial power has corrupted, not helped, and they cannot be trusted at all.   Very much like big (and other) churches?

Is there a way to put this drivel on ignore?

[SureWord]

5 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

Is there a way to put this drivel on ignore?

Is there a way to get you to stop obsessing over the Gates vaccine and the Fauci virus? You will not change anyone's mind in here to either a "Yea" or a "Nay".

Edited July 10, 2021 by SureWord

[Bouncing Bill]

44 minutes ago, SureWord said:

Is there a way to get you to stop obsessing over the Gates vaccine and the Fauci virus? You will not change anyone's mind in here to either a "Yea" or a "Nay".

If a person does not want to believe, they never will believe. But, if one person sees the truth and changes it may save them and their family. If they see the truth and do not change and they or a family member dies from COVID they will carry the guilt. 

You know the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink." Same here.

Blessings and health to you and yours. 

[Pastor Matt]

I would like to see the break down from people that died with Covid in their system and those that died because of covid

 I know here in Ct they (not sure if they still do) test everyone that died. If covid was in their system they went down as a covid death. An acquaintance of mine died in a car accident. Family is suing because on the death certificate is said Covid as cause of death and the hospital will not change it because covid was in their system. 

[BrotherTony]

6 hours ago, Bouncing Bill said:

If a person does not want to believe, they never will believe. But, if one person sees the truth and changes it may save them and their family. If they see the truth and do not change and they or a family member dies from COVID they will carry the guilt. 

You know the old saying, "You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink." Same here.

Blessings and health to you and yours. 

You're inability to post honest statistics is part of the problem. You seem to be following the "high priest" of Covid, Fauci, ane expect everybody to fall in lock-step with what you believe...NOT GONNA HAPPEN! You may want to defend Fauci, Biden, Pelosi, and all things China and the Socialist Democrats, but I won't. I like to think for myself.