Creflo's Scam Uncovered by the Greek Text

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Last week, Creflo Dollar announced that his current air transport had to be retired due to mechanical errors.  He issued a plea for 200,000 of his followers and supporters to send him at least $300 each so he could purchase a Gulfstream G650.  

 

Interesting that there is another G650 than the Gulfstream...

[John81]

I was surprised this didn't get brought up sooner. A few days ago this was all over various places with even most Charismatics denouncing the whole thing. It got so bad he took down his request from his website. Even so, it's likely he's taking in a lot of money because of that request, will continue to more quietly seek the money for the jet, and eventually have the jet.

Meanwhile our pastor is driving around in the same vehicle he's driven for more years than I can remember; well over a dozen at least. Our associate pastor drives a car even older and more wore. Yet neither have ever even suggested a special giving so they can buy a brand new luxury BMW. 

[Alan]

Love that Greek!

[wretched]

HA, I doubt anyone needed strongs to figure out this shyster.

[John81]

HA, I doubt anyone needed strongs to figure out this shyster.

​I wish that were true! I've known so many Christians (past and present), those I've no reason to believe are not saved and who aren't babes in Christ, who nevertheless get caught up in the likes of Creflo Dollar, Joyce Myer and others along their lines.

For some, I can understand why they fall into such, for many of them it amazes me because of how much Scripture they actually know, the lives they live, and they aren't the gullible or uneducated sort, yet they reason away questionable aspects of these people, and some even seem to glean something good from them.

I even know one sound (otherwise at least) IFB woman (a mature woman, not a young woman in years or faith) who just loves listening to Joel Osteen even tho she admits there are several areas where she disagrees with him.

I just don't get it.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Osteen tickles the ears, soothes the conscience and satisfies the flesh.  There's your answer.  Even the best of us seek attention at some time or another.

[John81]

Osteen tickles the ears, soothes the conscience and satisfies the flesh.  There's your answer.  Even the best of us seek attention at some time or another.

​That could have something to do with it for some of them I suppose. The IFB woman I know who likes Osteen has said she likes his positive and encouraging messages and it helps her draw closer to the Lord.

Personally, I find Osteen irritating and/or annoying. His mannerism, way of speaking, and most of what he says.

[wretched]

Unfortunately the vast majority of shyster's followers are female. Since Eve's deception it is obvious that no amount of picket signs/protests/marches for women's rights will change that gullability and satan preys on it constantly.

The few men in these crowds throwing money at these charlitans are the henpecked husbands of these women. And yes olsteen is a shyster and no brother of mine and certainly this OP shyster isn't either, even worse.

Show me a couple who follow these types and I will show you a house ruled by the woman in every aspect.

[John81]

Unfortunately the vast majority of shyster's followers are female. Since Eve's deception it is obvious that no amount of picket signs/protests/marches for women's rights will change that gullability and satan preys on it constantly.

The few men in these crowds throwing money at these charlitans are the henpecked husbands of these women. And yes olsteen is a shyster and no brother of mine and certainly this OP shyster isn't either, even worse.

Show me a couple who follow these types and I will show you a house ruled by the woman in every aspect.

​Reminds me of:

"For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts," 2 Timothy 3:6

[heartstrings]

You could look at that "woman" thing from a different perspective:

Instead of preaching the Biblical order of the home, some "speakers" belittle the men and pander to women. It's not that women are gullible, as someone above put it. But I think they gain a following that way.

[John81]

You could look at that "woman" thing from a different perspective:

Instead of preaching the Biblical order of the home, some "speakers" belittle the men and pander to women. It's not that women are gullible, as someone above put it. But I think they gain a following that way.

​That's certainly a major problem is many American churches, even our IFB churches. Women tend to be lifted up as the hardest workers in the family, the wise and 'always right' ones, and single mothers are often given special elevation.

Meanwhile, husbands (and men in general) are the focal point of "jokes" and outright lambasting as being lazy, wrong-headed, helpless and clueless...that's at best...some go on painting men to look as if all are some form of abuser (verbal or physical) who is mean and unruly.

It seems so often there are many women's groups and studies in churches but few for men. Many churches that do have things for men are infiltrated with the anti-man stuff where they are constantly told their ways are wrong, women are better, etc.

We need sound biblical teaching for both men and women. We need both men and women to learn to accept their God-given roles and responsibilities, and to love the Lord and one another as God commands. If we did this, even homes with gullible women and men with two-left feet would benefit and be blessed.

[Potatochip]

Creflo rescinded wanting a new jet.  I am a street preacher in Atlanta, Ga.  lol.  You need to go to youtube and see just how hot people are over Creflo wanting money for a jet.  lol.  Out on the street.  I get the biggest laughs from people.  I know this is only my backpack.  However I tell people if they ever see him.  I have his parachute.  lol.