Pastor’S Salary Cap

[wretched]

I have known personally one - and only one - other person who tried to teach that Pastors should not be paid.

He twisted Scripture to make it say what he wanted it to.
He was also classified as TPI (Totally Permanently incapacitated) due to back problems. This classification means that he is totally unable to work at an earning job, and was therefore on a full disability pension.

At the time he was self building a 4x4 camper bus, doing all the welding and fabricating of components himself.
But not able to work a job.....

This is the only man I have personally met who tried to teach that pastors should not be paid.

 

Well looky here brother, now you know of two. No mystery that they are the same type of fella. I have known others over the years, all the same. Will receive all day long but make up any excuse not to give.

[John81]

This isn't edifying.

[wretched]

This isn't edifying.

 

Yeah, you are probably right

[Steve Schwenke]

As is quite obvious, I do not twist Scripture. I present it as it is.

It is so obvious that nobody on this forum agrees with you....strange....

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Doesn't matter that you disagree with me. The Word of God is what it is and it reveals exactly what I teach concerning salaried pastors.

[Steve Schwenke]

You said that it was obvious that you don't twist Scripture....if it were so obvious, then we would all be thanking you for the clarity of your teaching, and agreeing with it.  We don't agree with it, and we have explained why on many occasions.  So then OBVIOUSLY you are NOT clear on your teaching, and it appears from our view that you ARE twisting Scripture, relying upon commentaries and other people to interpret it for you, instead of simply believing the plain sense of the passages in question.  It is called "private interpretation" - you came to these texts with pre-conceived ideas, and read those ideas into the passages.

 

Anyway, I am finished corresponding with you - it is not edifying for anyone.  It is obvious that you have an axe to grind over this whole money thing.  It is quite nauseating after awhile seeing the lengths that you will go to prove your point - even to the ridiculous extremes.

 

Adios, 

 

In Christ,

[Standing Firm In Christ]

When you can prove me wrong, feel free to. Thus far, you have not.

[Anon]

You can't "prove" an evolutionist wrong either...but it doesn't mean he's not wrong.....just saying. "In a multitude of counselors there is safety". When you have a bunch of good, solid people that as a group are agreeing on the interpretation of a portion of Scripture, I think it's wise to at least acknowledge that there may be something there to be learned.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Sure you can prove an evolutionist wrong.  Exodus 20:11 proves him wrong.

There is no Scripture that proves me wrong.  I am in perfect agreement with what Scripture says.  Pastors ought to work to support themselves.

[Standing Firm In Christ]

What would Paul's purpose be of setting an example by working to support himself if he did not mean pastors were not to work a job outside of Church? 

Paul clearly said he worked as an example and said that Elders ought to work also.  If being an Elder were considered work that Paul meant when he said "so labouring",  Paul would not have had to tell them to work. 

But he did.  And he gave the reason.  Pastors should be givers more than receivers.  And notice in Acts that the Church is supposed to have more than one pastor... Elders... plural.  One single pastor in a Church is also unScriptural.  But I bet that one is ignored as well.




 

[Standing Firm In Christ]

By the way, I can provide many "counsellors" who teach the Biblical mandate that pastors are to follow Paul's example and work a job outside the Church.

[DaveW]

I thought you said Paul was an evangelist not a pastor? If you will differentiate pastors with him based on that premise then neither should you use his example as that which a pastor should follow.
You can't have it both ways.
How about some consistency?

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Paul told Elders they ought to follow his example.  Ought to is not a mere suggestion.

[swathdiver]

When you can prove me wrong, feel free to. Thus far, you have not.

 

Could be wrong and if so I apologize but since I've been here SFIC, nobody has been able to prove you wrong on anything.  You seem to have a special insight, an ability to see things differently than most of us, even when discussing the very same verses from the same King James.

 

Might that be pride?  I say this as a former narcissist.  

[Standing Firm In Christ]

Might it be pride that prevents you from admitting that I am right?