Army general flares: ‘where were the churches’ in fight against Don’t Ask repeal?

[John81]

Army general flares: ‘where were the churches’ in fight against Don’t Ask repeal?
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by Kathleen Gilbert

• Wed Oct 12, 2011 17:33 EST
  

WASHINGTON, D.C., October 12, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - One of America’s most seasoned war generals expressed frustration at the silence of Christian churches as the U.S. military’s ban on open homosexuality fell to a repeal effort earlier this year.
Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin described at the Values Voter Summit on Saturday the exasperation of pro-family leaders in Washington who found themselves abandoned by church leaders unwilling to make a stand for the “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy. Boykin, who spent the majority of his career in the Special Forces, was mission commander of the battle portrayed in the Hollywood movie “Black Hawk Down,” and accepted the surrender of Panama military dictator Manuel Noriega in 1989.

Lieutenant General Jerry Boykin at the Values Voter Summit on Saturday.
According to Boykin, “nobody in this country fought a greater fight” against normalizing homosexuality in the military than Family Research Council President Tony Perkins, himself a former Marine who joined forces with senator and fellow veteran John McCain.
“John McCain kept turning to Tony Perkins saying, ‘Where’s the church? Where are the spiritual leaders?” said Boykin.
“The answer was, they were silent. The church was silent.”
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Besides a large number of military chaplains, few church leaders in America spoke up publicly against the Obama administration’s campaign last year to pass the repeal in Congress.
Notably, while the Vatican had released a statement in 1992 supporting a ban on open homosexuality in the military, the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops remained silent on the repeal effort, leaving military Archbishop Timothy Broglio to defend the ban alone. When questioned on the controversy in December 2010, Washington’s Cardinal Donald Wuerl demurred, saying “there isn’t a specific Catholic Church position” on the issue.
Boykin, a former Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence, told his conservative audience, “Christians have to rise up like a mighty army to be the salt and light.”
“Today, the church has lost its moral authority. The church has ceded its authority to the ACLU, and CODEPINK and MoveOn.org. They’re the ones with the real influence today,” he said. The veteran pointed to Europe as a good example of what will happen if America continues to lose sight of its identity as “founded on Judaeo-Christian principles.”
“Europe is hopelessly lost,” he said. “Folks, this could happen in America if we continue to be asleep, if the church does not rise up. The church has to get back to the fundamentals ... of the gospel of Jesus Christ.”
“We have to stop compromising on the gospel of Christ because ... we’re afraid somebody’s gonna be offended. Let me tell you something: when the Gospel of Jesus Christ offends people, that’s exactly when they need to hear it.”

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[DennisD]

My current Pastor didn't even know it was a law now. He doesn't own a TV, not even sure he has a radio...so he was kind of out of the loop when it came to this. I wonder if that had anything to do with lack of outcry. Seems like a stretch, I agree it's sad that it seems no one stood up to it.

It's another reason why I like Santorum because he's actually come out and said he'll fight the repeal. Not sure how much he'd actually do but I appreciate it when people take a tough stance no matter how much others might make fun or ostracize them for it.

[John81]

I think most pastors and churches and Christian organizations knew about this (there are few who avoid TV) and while some did speak against it, they did so quietly. It seems so many Christians in America today are unwilling to raise their voice about so many things because they fear being called bigots or they don't want to risk "offending" anyone.

Of course, look at the growth in "seeker friendly" churches where they don't discuss sin because it might offend someone. It's a terrible trend that's spreading.

[Wilchbla]

I'll tell you where a lot of churches were during that repeal. They were busy anointing sodomite pastors and pastorettes.

[John81]

I'll tell you where a lot of churches were during that repeal. They were busy anointing sodomite pastors and pastorettes.

Sad but true. It's such a shame to see how many of those are in Episcopal and other churches today. One of the most popular, biggest Baptist churches in this area has a woman associate pastor! Several Methodist churches are led by women pastors.

Whether sodomites, women (or both), any church led by such is unbiblical.

[swathdiver]

My pastor wasn't quiet at all about it! However, we in the IFBs are a minority.

So was the Lutheran Church or Presbyterians going to come out and condemn it? Course not, they ordain gay preachers as do the Methodists and most of the other Laodicean churches!

With Obama as President there is little to be done to stop him until the 2012 election. It's our duty to vote for the most Christ-like candidates and remove the heathens from public office for their god is their belly.

[John81]

My pastor wasn't quiet at all about it! However, we in the IFBs are a minority.

So was the Lutheran Church or Presbyterians going to come out and condemn it? Course not, they ordain gay preachers as do the Methodists and most of the other Laodicean churches!

With Obama as President there is little to be done to stop him until the 2012 election. It's our duty to vote for the most Christ-like candidates and remove the heathens from public office for their god is their belly.

No doubt the Episcopals and many others have gone so far over into wickedness as to accept sodomite "pastors" so they will not take a biblical stand on issues dealing with sodomites in the military.

I believe the article writer was pointing out that had there been a great outcry among Christians there would have been more in congress and within the military willing to try and stop or at least slow what has happened. We know Obama won't be swayed, but there are others who will put up a fight if they believe they have support behind them.