Herman Cain

[HappyChristian]

Are you sure this link is safe? I've had problems with virus' on links to Becks site.

It was safe for me, and my computer is quite virus protected.

[John81]

It was safe for me, and my computer is quite virus protected.

Okay, thank you! I have encountered so many virus' on Becks site I stopped clicking on his links.

Did you listen to Dick Morris' video on Cain? (like the one he did on Pawlenty and a few others) I checked out the one you posted as well as the ones on Cain and Bachman.

[HappyChristian]

I did listen to the one DM did on HCain. I didn't listen to the one he did on MB, though, since she hasn't declared yet...and I'm hoping she doesn't. TPaw and HCain will draw some of the same voters as she would, and that could throw the nomination to someone like Romney (if he runs).

[John81]

I did listen to the one DM did on HCain. I didn't listen to the one he did on MB, though, since she hasn't declared yet...and I'm hoping she doesn't. TPaw and HCain will draw some of the same voters as she would, and that could throw the nomination to someone like Romney (if he runs).

I would think Bachman would have the potential to draw enough support from Cain especially and also Pawlenty that one or both might withdraw early, leaving most of their supporters to go with Bachman.

Would really like to see Bachman and/or Cain blast Newt in a debate I'm not sure if any of the others are capable of that.

[HappyChristian]

I would think Bachman would have the potential to draw enough support from Cain especially and also Pawlenty that one or both might withdraw early, leaving most of their supporters to go with Bachman.

Would really like to see Bachman and/or Cain blast Newt in a debate I'm not sure if any of the others are capable of that.

Oh, yeah - I think they could both mop the floor with him. To be honest, I think SP could, too. I'm kind of looking forward to the debates this time around! :icon_mrgreen:

[John81]

Oh, yeah - I think they could both mop the floor with him. To be honest, I think SP could, too. I'm kind of looking forward to the debates this time around!

Yes, I think Sarah would go after him too. It would actually be best for the Party and country if Newt were to get hammered good near the beginning to the point where he looked weak, perhaps even unelectable, and people started pulling their support from him and giving it to one of those able to knock him off his high horse.

[HappyChristian]

I would be surprised if NG stayed in the race very long. He's made a lot of people angry early on...and a number of pundits believe he shot himself in the foot.

[John81]

I would be surprised if NG stayed in the race very long. He's made a lot of people angry early on...and a number of pundits believe he shot himself in the foot.

Once again he made the mistake of thinking to highly of himself. He's done this often in the past, though he claims to no longer be like this.

I believe he would be quick to drop out if he does poorly from the beginning or gets hammered really hard very early on. If that doesn't happen, he's likely to try and hold on in the hopes of pulling off a McCain-type win or doing well enough to earn a position in the actual winners administration.

[HappyChristian]

That could very well be true. If he wins the nomination, BO will win re-election.

[John81]

That could very well be true. If he wins the nomination, BO will win re-election.

I think Newt would be pleased with that. If he wins, he's president! If he loses, he will be able to draw huge speaking fees, sell more books, get more donations for his many organizations.

[John81]

If he keeps showing strong in polls the media will start paying more attention to him.



Herman Cain revs up mainstream conservatives
By ERRIN HAINES - Associated Press | AP – 2 hrs 28 mins ago...


ATLANTA (AP) — Bolstered by support from his loyal radio talk-show audience and tea party backers, businessman Herman Cain has revved up mainstream conservatives, rising recently to third place in a poll of voters in Iowa, the leadoff caucus state.

In his pursuit of the Republican presidential nomination, Cain's views on the economy and his fiery delivery have resonated with some in the GOP. His campaign has also been marked by controversy, including his comment that he would not want a Muslim bent on killing Americans in his administration. Just this week, Cain accused comedian Jon Stewart of disliking him because he is an "American black conservative."

Already losing some of his cachet to tea party favorite Michele Bachmann, Cain, the lone African-American GOP candidate, is trying to win over a party that hasn't had a black nominee. Sidestepping race as an issue in his campaign may have helped him gain momentum in recent weeks, but whether he can turn vigor into votes will depend largely on voters' ability to look past his skin color and perceive him as a serious candidate.

"He appeals to people because he doesn't talk about race," said South Carolina Republican strategist Chip Felkel. "I think that too often, if anyone does go into that discussion, it's then used by other people to criticize them. I don't think that needs to be part of his narrative. He's a business person. He's an American."

Cain has been on a remarkable trajectory since entering the race more than a month ago, when a crowd of 15,000 stormed a downtown Atlanta park to cheer him on at his campaign announcement. He was received well at the Republican Leadership Conference this month in New Orleans and drew nearly 100 in Greenville, S.C., for a discussion of his economic plan.

His narrative — outlined in a patriotic, four-minute video that winds across rolling hills and pastures and ends in a boardroom against the backdrop of the American flag — is that of a no-excuses, no-nonsense fighter who isn't afraid of a challenge. On the stump, he offers simplified stances on complex issues like national defense, the federal income tax and why he thinks America should return to the gold standard. He has been compared to Republican heroes like Ronald Reagan.

"He's fresh, he's outspoken," said Debbie Dooley, head of the Georgia Tea Party Patriots. "If they hear him speak, he usually wins them over. With him, what you see is what you get. People like that."

Cain's story of uplift is not without hints of his heritage. In a campaign video, the great-great grandson of slaves recalls his hardscrabble beginnings in the Jim Crow South, where his father worked three jobs to buy a house and stressed the importance of education to Cain, a graduate of the all-male, historically black Morehouse College.

"He doesn't believe in the whole business of race being a defining factor of anything in this country," said William Boone, a political science professor at Clark Atlanta University, which is predominantly black. "He says, 'If you work hard, you will make it. Look at me.' He believes racism is just one of the many obstacles people face. If he ran any other way, he wouldn't be showing up in the polls."

Cain, a former pizza company executive, said he became a conservative "when I started to make some money" and dismisses the idea that his views somehow diminish his black identity.

"I have never left the black community," Cain told The Associated Press, noting he's attended the same black Baptist church for years. "I am a part of the black community. I don't have to do anything special. I just have to tell the truth. That transcends ethnicity."

Recent poll numbers and a flurry of media attention seem to suggest his strategy is working.

"He's getting first, second and third looks from people," said Fergus Cullen, former chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party. "There's a buzz on the street among activists. People like him; they want to know more about him. That's sort of living the dream as far as a presidential candidate goes. He's getting the kind of reaction every candidate imagines."

Political observers say Cain will have to seize the moment to get the donors and endorsements to take his campaign from grass roots to top tier. He'll also have to overcome his lack of political experience.

"I don't think people look at the presidency as an entry-level job in politics," Cullen said. "They say, 'We like him, but can we see him as president?'"

Cain's candidacy has not been without gaffes, and he has made a few racially tinged remarks that have raised eyebrows. Last month, Cain was quoted as saying that blacks "can't afford to" join him at tea party rallies and other conservative events. In campaign footage, he is seen with tea partyers across the country, warning, "To all of those who say that the tea party is a racist organization ... eat your words!"

Last month, after referring to himself as "the dark horse candidate," Cain invoked the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. when he began his speech to the Republican Leadership Conference with the words, "I have a dream" of GOP victories in the House and Senate in 2012 and said he would be the next president of the United States.

At times, Cain seems to enjoy flirting with race. He is fond of saying that he "left the Democratic plantation years ago." At a recent campaign event in Atlanta, he told the crowd that when asked by a reporter what distinguished him from his fellow GOP candidates, he answered: "One of the biggest differences is the color of my ... eyes." At the same meeting, during a lull in the questioning, Cain sang the spiritual "Wouldn't Take Nothing for My Journey Now" in a velvet baritone.

The mostly white audience ate it up.

"One of the things I have done throughout this ... is that I'm not going to allow people to distract us with this whole color thing," he told the crowd. "It is not about color. It's about good ideas that will save this economy and this nation."

http://news.yahoo.com/herman-cain-revs-mainstream-conservatives-074645030.html
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http://www.hermancain.com

[Anon]

So far I like how he seems real, and not "political". Right now there are too many GOP candidates who are still just another politician.

[John81]

So far I like how he seems real, and not "political". Right now there are too many GOP candidates who are still just another politician.

I agree with that! Ronald Reagan and Bush the Second had similar aspects to this and this was a major factor in many being drawn to them. It seems to be working well for Cain as well.

Also, as was the case with Bush the Second, many voters were tired of how Clinton related to them and Bush the Second was a difference voters liked. Today there are many tired of the arrogant and Chicago style political talk of Obama and Cain stands in sharp, and needed, contrast to that.

[Anon]

The question is, how many voters will stop watching the mainstream media and look into candidates on their own? Hopefully people like Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck will give their listeners more details on the "smaller but more conservative" candidates.

I still don't know enough about Cain, but I'd LOVE to see a black Rep run against Obama if for no other reason but to banish the race card. Black man against (half) black man.... they can duke it out like...well...black men! Although Obama sounds more "educated" than Cain as far as speech. Cain talks more like any other black guy.... so he would have to prove he can run the country. His "lack of experience" would be the biggest blight on his record.

[Pastor Matt]

I like how one Cain supporter put it on facebook. He said, "The first time I voted for Obama to prove that I'm not racists, now I'm not voting for Obama to prove that I'm not an idiot."