God The Father

[Madeline]

Can believers literally "see" God the Father one day?

Revelation 22:3,4 - And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads....

Thanks in advance!

Love,
Madeline

[Guest Guest]

Yes.

[5dumplings@home]

That verse says we will. It is either true, or it's a lie. If it's a lie, we are in trouble.

Isn't it the fact of our sinful state that we cannot see Him and live? His perfection and holiness would kill us. Moses could only see the part of His glory. However, when we reach heaven, our sinful state will be ended forever. We will be truly holy as He is holy. We will know even also as we are known.

[Lee-Anne]

How wonderful to see our GREAT GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a day that will be!!!!!!!!!!!! :amen:

[John81]

Yes! What a glorious day that will be!!!

[godsgurlie_077]

Can believers literally "see" God the Father one day?

Revelation 22:3,4 - And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads....

Thanks in advance!

Love,
Madeline

They sure can and I can't wait then nothing will go wrong because there will be no more pain or suffering and no sadness everything will be perfect because we will be with Jesus.

[Jerry]

God the Father has never taken on a visible form - so no, we will not see Him in Heaven. We will see the Son however - that is who is in view in the verses quoted.

Revelation 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

The Lamb is the last noun - therefore the pronouns refer to the Lamb, not to God (ie. the Father).

[Madeline]

I agree...the problem is that many ASSUME that "God" (Gr. "Theos") is God the Father. I believe that if we erase that assumption, even just momentarily, that all will be clear.

Rev. 22:3 reads, ".....but THE throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it....".Note first of all that there is one throne, not two. The definite article "the" is in the manuscripts which makes it an uncontroversial fact that there is but one throne. So we must ask, whose face will we see?

Given that only one throne is mentioned, I believe that there will be only ONE FACE we will see occupying that throne. The Lamb is, of course Christ. Christ is God. So this verse tells us that Christ in His office of Lamb will sit on THE throne. So it is God's face in the Person of Jesus Christ that will be seen. His face will be seen as He sits on His throne in His office of Lamb (cf. Jn.6:46; 8:38; 14:7,9; 15:24).

Love,
Madeline

[tired]

19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.- Mark 16:19

What does that mean then? How could Jesus sit on the right of something that has no visible form?

[Jerry]

Maybe I was unclear. God the Father (and the Holy Spirit) do not have a body. God has somehow made the glory of God visible - for example, the High priest once a year could see God's glory above the cherubim - but that still was not God, it was a representation of Him. I think people will be able, in some way, to see the Father's glory - but it is Jesus we will see face to face, Jesus who has a body.

[tired]

I get what you are saying. Sometimes you have to be real clear for me to get things. I say sometimes put it is more like all the time. :Green

[lettheredeemedsayso]

God the Father has never taken on a visible form - so no, we will not see Him in Heaven. We will see the Son however - that is who is in view in the verses quoted.

Revelation 22:3-4 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him: And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.

The Lamb is the last noun - therefore the pronouns refer to the Lamb, not to God (ie. the Father).

Bro Jerry, Would you be so kind as to give the scriptures that support the fact that God the Father has never taken on visible form?

[Jerry]

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Hebrews 1:1-3 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

These are the main ones that come to mind. All the appearances of God in the OT were Christophanies - appearances of Christ, often as the Angel of the Lord.

[lettheredeemedsayso]

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

Hebrews 1:1-3 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

These are the main ones that come to mind. All the appearances of God in the OT were Christophanies - appearances of Christ, often as the Angel of the Lord.

Bro Jerry, What do you think that Jesus meant by this?


Jhn 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Shew us the Father?

[Madeline]

What Jesus is trying to tell his listeners is that everything about the Father is also true about Him. The Son possesses all the attributes the Father possesses. Hope this helps!

Love,
Madeline