Members SGO Posted April 18 Members Posted April 18 (edited) I just found this website today, April 19, 2024. Never heard of him. Can you relate any experiences you've had concerning him or his ministry? From the home page: https://kjvevangelist.com/ "Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. Greetings in the Name of Jesus Christ, We are, Jack and Barb Koons; Evangelists to America, and as the Letterhead states; “Promoting the King James Bible, and Refuting Calvinism, and Arminianism”. After researching the King James issue since about 1990, and having written a book on the subject named “What is So Special About the King James Bible?”; God has called me to teach churches why we believe the King James is the inspired, inerrant, and preserved Word of God, for English speaking people. I am available to teach anything from a single lesson, to an entire conference on the King James. My book could also be used as a textbook at any seminary, standing on the King James. Furthermore, seeing how Calvinism (“Reformed Theology”) has been taking over many churches, and growing in popularity, (because it appeals to the supposed “sovereignty” of God); I also teach why this is a NOT a Biblical doctrine. I have written a book titled, “The Biblical View of Salvation”, which is a series of 173 lessons, which covers the Doctrine of Salvation from a practical perspective, and also refutes Calvinism, and Arminianism. I am available to teach anything from the basic Gospel message, to detailed messages presented at a revival, or such type meetings. Please explore the menu on this sight to see how Barb and I can be a service to you. Because the Lord is still on the Throne, Jack Koons" Edited April 18 by SGO Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 19 Members Posted April 19 So .he believes not only in the "preservation" of the Bible for the English speaking people to be the KJV, but that it's also "inspired?" He apparently believes in the double inspiration theory put forth by the likes of Peter Ruckman. Sorry, but you'll NEVER get me to buy into that position. Quote
Members SGO Posted April 19 Author Members Posted April 19 35 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: So .he believes not only in the "preservation" of the Bible for the English speaking people to be the KJV, but that it's also "inspired?" He apparently believes in the double inspiration theory put forth by the likes of Peter Ruckman. Sorry, but you'll NEVER get me to buy into that position. Thank you for responding. I did not catch that part. That brought to mind a two part question. These verses: Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth; but the word of our God shall stand forever. and Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. If you think these words are true and that His word is for ever, where is it now? Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 19 Members Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, SGO said: Thank you for responding. I did not catch that part. That brought to mind a two part question. These verses: Isaiah 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth; but the word of our God shall stand forever. and Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. If you think these words are true and that His word is for ever, where is it now? Yet, when taken out of context they breed the likes of Ruckman. We know where God's word is now... apparently you're being intentionally obtuse considering you quoted from it. Quote
Members SGO Posted April 20 Author Members Posted April 20 (edited) I hope I did not imply that the translators were inspired; they did not say anything like that of themselves. I would like to know if some of the members of this forum consider the KJV as the word of God in English, as I do. If anyone claims that the KJV is the word of God, then it is (for them, at the least) inspired. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, 2 Timothy 3:16a "We know where God's word is now..." does not make that clear to me. Edited April 20 by SGO Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 20 Members Posted April 20 5 hours ago, SGO said: I hope I did not imply that the translators were inspired; they did not say anything like that of themselves. I would like to know if some of the members of this forum consider the KJV as the word of God in English, as I do. If anyone claims that the KJV is the word of God, then it is (for them, at the least) inspired. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, 2 Timothy 3:16a "We know where God's word is now..." does not make that clear to me. 5 hours ago, SGO said: If it wasn't clear to you then your powers of comprehension and understanding are truly lacking. Did you or did you not quote from the Word of God? And to be clear, the way you are trying to convey the doctrine of inspiration here IS double inspiration. And again, I don't buy it. Quote
Members SGO Posted April 20 Author Members Posted April 20 Scripture is inspired, you don't doubt that, do you? The KJV is accurately translated from copies that came from the originals. The translators were not inspired but the words are. If the KJV or any other bible does not have the inspired words of God we are in trouble and can only give man made reasons for conversion. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life. John 6:63 Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 20 Members Posted April 20 46 minutes ago, SGO said: Scripture is inspired, you don't doubt that, do you? The KJV is accurately translated from copies that came from the originals. The translators were not inspired but the words are. If the KJV or any other bible does not have the inspired words of God we are in trouble and can only give man made reasons for conversion. It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit and they are life. John 6:63 And nobody has denied any of this...nice try though. Quote
Members SGO Posted April 20 Author Members Posted April 20 Ok, then. Why won't you bother to answer my questions? Please do not speak for other forum members, just yourself because you are the only one responding. Is the KJV the inspired word of God? Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 20 Members Posted April 20 (edited) 14 hours ago, SGO said: Ok, then. Why won't you bother to answer my questions? Please do not speak for other forum members, just yourself because you are the only one responding. Is the KJV the inspired word of God? Where have I answered for others? I made an honest observation and assessment of what I have seen on these forums. And, I HAVE answered your question... just because the answer is not to your liking doesn't negate the answer. You can continue to ask the same thing over and over if you wish, but, I don't repeat answers over and over to try and fit your circular reasoning. Move on. Edited April 21 by BrotherTony Quote
Members SGO Posted April 21 Author Members Posted April 21 If you won't answer, for I may have missed it, are you ashamed to tell me again now that I have asked, Brother? Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted April 21 Members Posted April 21 6 hours ago, SGO said: If you won't answer, for I may have missed it, are you ashamed to tell me again now that I have asked, Brother? Did you not quote from the Word of God??? Quote
Members SureWord Posted April 23 Members Posted April 23 I think this is an argument over terminology. At the end of the day the KJV is the preserved, inspired word of God. There must have been some kind of inspiration in determining how to preserve the words of God without error. This doesn't mean "revelation" which I think some Christians conflated with the doctrine of inspiration. Quote
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