Members Behold Posted March 15 Members Posted March 15 Here is a way to think about it.. Everyone has heard a Radio before. A Radio has Radio stations.. So, most Radio is "FM.. or AM".. That is the signal coming in...... So, the Bible is God's signal. Its God Station.. Its His Spiritual Frequency because its written by God's Spirit and has to be discerned by the Same Spirit who is.. ."Christ IN YOU... the Hope of Glory". The Born again are become the "Temple of the Holy Spirit....." And to receive God's signal, you have to be born again as part of it. You have to become "One with God" to receive His Signals.. His Light,. So, when a person is not, then they can't receive the right signal (understanding and revelation) from the BIBLE.. as the BIBLE is the revelation of God and from God. Its a Spiritual Signal.. A Spiritual Channel.. A Spiritual Frequency... A Spiritual LIGHT. A Spiritual REVELATION. This means that you have to be a born again CHILD of THE LIGHT.. to Receive From God, as "God exists in Light" and "Jesus is the Light of the World". So, can you see the problem, when people who are not of God's SIGNAL, are not of God LIGHT, are trying to READ the bible and then teach it? That is why = 45,000 denomition. That is why Fourms are nothing but fighting and meanness and carnality=, and lies being taught as Truth. Now who is the ONE who teaches the PURE SIGNAL the Pure Word of Doctrine? That is : Paul the Apostle. He is our Teacher. So, if your teacher is not a student of Paul.. if your Pastor or Pope is not a student of Paul, then you are learning a lot of error, reader. Always. So, how do you know im one of those? Its because i just taught you all that....... Quote
Members BrotherTony Posted March 15 Members Posted March 15 54 minutes ago, Behold said: Here is a way to think about it.. Everyone has heard a Radio before. A Radio has Radio stations.. So, most Radio is "FM.. or AM".. That is the signal coming in...... So, the Bible is God's signal. Its God Station.. Its His Spiritual Frequency because its written by God's Spirit and has to be discerned by the Same Spirit who is.. ."Christ IN YOU... the Hope of Glory". The Born again are become the "Temple of the Holy Spirit....." And to receive God's signal, you have to be born again as part of it. You have to become "One with God" to receive His Signals.. His Light,. So, when a person is not, then they can't receive the right signal (understanding and revelation) from the BIBLE.. as the BIBLE is the revelation of God and from God. Its a Spiritual Signal.. A Spiritual Channel.. A Spiritual Frequency... A Spiritual LIGHT. A Spiritual REVELATION. This means that you have to be a born again CHILD of THE LIGHT.. to Receive From God, as "God exists in Light" and "Jesus is the Light of the World". So, can you see the problem, when people who are not of God's SIGNAL, are not of God LIGHT, are trying to READ the bible and then teach it? That is why = 45,000 denomition. That is why Fourms are nothing but fighting and meanness and carnality=, and lies being taught as Truth. Now who is the ONE who teaches the PURE SIGNAL the Pure Word of Doctrine? That is : Paul the Apostle. He is our Teacher. So, if your teacher is not a student of Paul.. if your Pastor or Pope is not a student of Paul, then you are learning a lot of error, reader. Always. So, how do you know im one of those? Its because i just taught you all that....... Wow...you're as pompous as ever in that post, and again pretty much putting the Apostle Paul up on such a pedestal that he's higher than the Holy Spirit...Yes, Paul is important, but he's not all in all, which you seem to have been pushing in most of your posts here. I John 2... 26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. John 14: 15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. There were gentiles who came to Christ before Paul became an Apostle and received his commission of spreading the gospel to the gentiles. Paul's writings are no more important than any other Apostle's. They all work together to point the way to the gospel of Christ. Jerry 1 Quote
Members Jerry Posted March 16 Members Posted March 16 Behold is a hyperdispensationalist - probably in the same crowd as Robert Breaker and Gene Kim. They only believe out of the whole Bible that Paul’s letters are applicable to the church - and even if Hebrews was written by Paul, it was written before he got his gospel from God so therefore is not for the church either. So literally they only accept 87 out of the 1189 chapters of the whole Bible! Sad! HappyChristian, BrotherTony and wretched 2 1 Quote
Members MikeWatson1 Posted March 16 Members Posted March 16 19 hours ago, Jerry said: Behold is a hyperdispensationalist - probably in the same crowd as Robert Breaker and Gene Kim. They only believe out of the whole Bible that Paul’s letters are applicable to the church - and even if Hebrews was written by Paul, it was written before he got his gospel from God so therefore is not for the church either. So literally they only accept 87 out of the 1189 chapters of the whole Bible! Sad! I've seen many that have the church not starting with Jesus and His disciples, but at Pentecost. They generally also relegate Jesus' journey with the disciples to the Old Testament. I dunno if Behold does that. But I have seen many dispensationalists who do. Quote
Members Jerry Posted March 16 Members Posted March 16 (edited) I will clarify, it is hyperdispensationalists doing what you said (not dispensationalists overall). Being a dispensationalist is Biblical - this is an acknowledgement that God had different rules and ways of working in different periods of man's history. That is literally what dispensations are - the word means house laws. In the Garden of Eden (what is often referred to as the age of innocence), the only command they had was not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, then was what is often referred to as the age of conscience. Later, Noah built and ark and the new inhabitants were under human government now (not directly governed by God), later there was the period of the patriarchs and the promises of God, then the period of the Law, now we are in the church age/grace - one salvation, but different commands on how we are to live, different levels of knowledge, next will be the Day of the Lord (including the tribulation period and the Millennium/the kingdom age), then eternity. Don't worry about the names, they are just for clarification and identification. The takeawy is that there are seven or eight distinct clear ages or period in man's history where God dealt with them differently - all failed or will fail, except eternity, where only true regenerated and immortal (ie. no longer mortal, sinful bodes) believers dwell in the presence of God. Ephesians gets into the dispensations or ages - so it is a Biblical concept. The problem comes when hyperdispensationalist come to divide the history of man in ways the Bible does not (ie. different salvation, this or that part of the Bible ONLY for that time period - not taking into account certain things being types which were later fulfilled or ceremonial things, etc. Also, some may differ on exact time periods or details of some aspect of a dispensation (such as what you mentioned above about the exact start of the church), but that is why we need to rightly divide the Word of God and not throw out or reject Biblical concepts because some have gone overboard on something. Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Dispensation is: "oikonomía, (which is literal laws of the house - nomia laws, oikos house) from G3623; administration (of a household or estate); specially, a (religious) "economy":—dispensation, stewardship. This exact form of the word is used seven times in the NT (1 listed above and 6 below - I don't know if there are more right now as I am just giving a quick reply - but there are other passages and terms used to teach this principle): Luke 16:2 And he called him, and said unto him, How is it that I hear this of thee? give an account of thy stewardship; for thou mayest be no longer steward. Luke 16:3 Then the steward said within himself, What shall I do? for my lord taketh away from me the stewardship: I cannot dig; to beg I am ashamed. Luke 16:4 I am resolved what to do, that, when I am put out of the stewardship, they may receive me into their houses. 1 Corinthians 9:17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me. Ephesians 3:2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: Colossians 1:25 Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; If necessary, we can start a thread to give further info/discussion on this. Edited March 16 by Jerry clarification MikeWatson1 1 Quote
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