Members BrotherTony Posted March 23, 2022 Members Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Hugh_Flower said: Question… What significance does it bare if it’s private or public? Aren’t the entirety of our lives supposed to be dedicated to our Lord? ( Im looking at this question as a devotional lense into Christ personal life, private or public) The OP refers to John 11:54. There's a specificity in the question, I believe, and in the verse as well from what I read. Isn't anything from the Word of God significant, especially if there's reference to what Christ did and why he did it? The KJV just says that Christ didn't walk anymore OPENLY among them...Don't know if that specifically means he stopped his public ministry, but it would seem so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hugh_Flower Posted March 23, 2022 Members Share Posted March 23, 2022 44 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: The OP refers to John 11:54. There's a specificity in the question, I believe, and in the verse as well from what I read. Isn't anything from the Word of God significant, especially if there's reference to what Christ did and why he did it? The KJV just says that Christ didn't walk anymore OPENLY among them...Don't know if that specifically means he stopped his public ministry, but it would seem so. Yes obviously… But why is this significant, and what does it mean for a devotional application Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrotherTony Posted March 23, 2022 Members Share Posted March 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Hugh_Flower said: Yes obviously… But why is this significant, and what does it mean for a devotional application It could mean that there are times when it's prudent to scale back in what we're doing for the sake of what we are trying to accomplish. It's not a sin to scale back to have enough resources for a future point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Hugh_Flower Posted March 23, 2022 Members Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 27 minutes ago, BrotherTony said: It could mean that there are times when it's prudent to scale back in what we're doing for the sake of what we are trying to accomplish. It's not a sin to scale back to have enough resources for a future point in time. That’s something that as a young man it’s not normally a forethought… Thank you Edited March 23, 2022 by Hugh_Flower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SureWord Posted March 23, 2022 Members Share Posted March 23, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 10:18 PM, 1Timothy115 said: Yes, it was a very important part of His public ministry even if all of us sinners couldn't comprehend it. It allowed saints (Stephen Acts 7:52, John 19, Paul Corinthians, Galations, Philipians) to testify against the Jewish religiosity and against everyone of the Gentiles who would reject this public execution of Jesus Christ, Lord of Glory. This is after the fact. While Jesus was being crucified no one had any idea the purpose behind it. Not the apostles, not the angels, not the princes of the world which would include spiritual wickedness on high. The gospel was hidden to everyone until after Christ's resurrection. So, Jesus' ministry was to the saints after John 11:54 not to the public. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 1Timothy115 Posted March 24, 2022 Members Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, SureWord said: This is after the fact. While Jesus was being crucified no one had any idea the purpose behind it. Not the apostles, not the angels, not the princes of the world which would include spiritual wickedness on high. The gospel was hidden to everyone until after Christ's resurrection. So, Jesus' ministry was to the saints after John 11:54 not to the public. One very special reason Christ came was to go to the cross and bear our sins. Not ours only but the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Crucifixion was a very public means of execution, horribly agonizing, and meant to discourage others from the actions which sent them to the cross. The Jews and to some degree the Romans wanted to be rid of this disruption (Jesus Christ) to their "normal" everyday lives. The Jewish leaders hated Christ. Christ allowing His crucifixion was a public testimony against the Jews and the leaders of this world. It was very much a part of Christ's public ministry. Webster's 1828... (scripture references I added below, marked with *) Public - 1. ... Thus we say, public welfare, public good, public calamity, public service, public property. 2. Common to many; current or circulated among people of all classes; general; as public report; public scandal. *Isaiah 53 3. Open; notorious; exposed to all persons without restriction. *John 19:37, *Revelation 1:7 4. Regarding the community; directed to the interest of a nation, state or community; as public spirit; public mindedness; opposed to private or selfish. 5. Open for general entertainment; as a public house. 6. Open to common use; as a public road. 7. In general, public expresses something common to mankind at large, to a nation, state, city or town, and is opposed to private, which denotes what belongs to an individual, to a family, to a company or corporation. PUB'LIC, n. The general body of mankind or of a nation, state or community; the people, indefinitely. The public is more disposed to censure than to praise. In this passage, public is followed by a verb in the singular number; but being a noun of multitude, it is more generally followed by a plural verb; the public are. In public, in open view; before the people at large; not in private or secrecy. Ministry - The office, duties or functions of a subordinate agent of any kind. *Philippians 2:7, 2 Corinthians 8:9 1. Agency; service; aid; interposition; instrumentality. 2. Ecclesiastical function; agency or service of a minister of the gospel or clergyman in the modern church, or of priests, apostles and evangelists in the ancient. Acts 1. Rom.12. 2 Tim.4. Num.4., *Isaiah 53 3. Time of ministration; duration of the office of a minister, civil or ecclesiastical. 4. Persons who compose the executive government or the council of a supreme magistrate; the body of ministers of state. I would say the preponderance of scripture points to a public ministry of the fulfilling of scripture, "to the Jew first and also to the Greek." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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